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IgnolmeerFri 07-Jul-17 08:51 AM
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#131737, "RE:Or maybe..."


          

^^^ Except in my case, I flipped the switch and it said 'BOMB DEACTIVATED - HAVE A NICE DAY KINGSLAYER' the Bomb was then put in a cupboard for 40 years, then one day I opened the cupboard, and it started blinking 'BOMB ACTIVATED' Huh thats weird, Better deactivate it like last time!!! OH BOOOM I guess that didnt work.

Let me break it down - and this is completely from what I have seen.
1) Your first safety switch went off when you were leveling off of dwarfs and were talked to IC - summation was you didn't care.

2) Your second safety switch went off when you go hit with Kinslayer "40 hours later" as you said. Warning you that you are doing things against your own race and that is bad for a dwarf. You proceeded to double down and kill the dwarf kings and more (per your role entry).

3) Because Imms liked your Role/RP/PC interactions (albeit a very bad dwarf that will have consequences) want to be rewarded with a title. Your role addition talked about how you went on a killing spree of dwarves when you got kinslayer, and specifically you hunted down all the dwarven kings! So you were titled with Kingslayer. Which an equivalent example would that the Unibomber got a nifty title too, but that doesn't mean people liked what he was doing. Dwarfs still didn't like what you were doing!

The side effect to that title was kinslayer safety switch fell down and you took that to mean you were now king of dwarves. You cry that you should have had interaction that told you were still kinslayer, well, no one told you were the king either. You drew conclusions inaccurately. Example being, just because the tax man gave you a refund 100 times larger than what you should get doesn't mean it was actually your or that you deserve it. Because, oh wait, you didn't even pay taxes!

So you proceeded to kill more dwarves and do kinship - then switch was tripped (I.E. fixed). Unibomber is still mailing off his yummy packages!

You didn't open a harmless cupboard. You were murdering your own race. You continued to kill them because you IC and OOC didn't care. The dwarves still cared even if you didn't. BOOM goes the dynamite! You are a betrayer to your own race.

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After the red mists settles you find you no longer are able do what you used to.

Do you go seek out a kingdom of evil duergar to help you re-learn that which the bomb had taken?
^^^ Gonna relearn my arms and legs? What? Do you just shrug, and ignore all of the bombs effects and just continue like the bomb never affected you in the first place? Because the bomb makers are ####wits?
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> You didn't lose an arms or a legs. Those flaws somewhat exist though and you weren't given them. You were not incapacitated or invalid. You could still act. You lost your specs and forgecraft. You still have lots of skills that could have allowed you do any of the options I spoke of. The bomb was brutal, but not unrecoverable.



Do you warn others of the effects of the bomb, and atone for choosing to blow yourself up?

^^^ Pretty sure there can be no mistaking the immortals intentions here.

Our intentions are that you play a game where there are consequences for actions. That has always been the case. Good or bad there are consequences. Bad choice was dwarf killing dwarf = Kinslayer. Good choice was good roleplaying as a horrible dwarf = Titled along the lines of what the bad dwarf is doing. Bad choice = still killing dwarfs = Betrayer of your race.

Now don't mistake the separation of categorizes here. You were excellently roleplaying a dwarf merc that didn't care about being a dwarf or their racial culture/history/way of life. That though, while great roleplaying, is antithetical to a dwarf. So you were dealt with according to the parameters established already in the game, I.E. kinslayer and betrayer.


Do you commit suicide with another bomb that you push with your nose because you're no longer the star quarterback for your high school?
^^^ Not sure I get this reference

>That analogy maybe too colloquial.


Do blame it on society? Do you say, "Hey, there shouldn't be so few safety switching on that bomb?

^^^ Hey there shouldnt be any safety switches on the bomb, in fact they should just blow up instantly, so when people first encounter the bomb they can just reroll at 5 hours or what ever instead of 170.

>Characters are developed over time through action and choices. We don't blow you up right away, in the same way we don't instantly make you Emperor or High Herald. I exclude Thror's good aligned dwarf Commander of Battle quest as a one off.


I'm going to demand there be 20 safety switches!"? Do you say, "Hmm, I guess that didn't work how I intended, I won't make that mistake again."? Et Cetera!
^^^ My comments aside, can you do any of the things you mentioned with no arms and legs? No? cool

> Can "one" do anything after losing spec/song/communes/spells/etc? Yes, anything their imagination can conjurer (inside the parameters of CF).

Can Imms (I.E. our programmers) make changes betrayer? That's possible too...

  

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Reply Kinslayer!, Ishuli, 04-Jul-17 10:39 AM, #1
     Reply Thanks, Kstatida, 04-Jul-17 11:27 AM, #2
     Reply Thus, when Ghrimmli jumped beyond fifty kin-kills, it s..., The-me, 04-Jul-17 12:12 PM, #3
     Reply "Unannounced", Rahsael, 04-Jul-17 01:08 PM, #5
     Reply UNANNOUNCED, Ghrimmli (Anonymous), 04-Jul-17 01:48 PM, #6
     Reply Lol. I would say never change...but you never do :) NT, TMNS, 04-Jul-17 02:52 PM, #8
     Reply Even I am not this power gamey. n/t, Lhydia, 04-Jul-17 08:33 PM, #12
     Reply RE: Even I am not this power gamey. n/t, The-me, 04-Jul-17 08:43 PM, #13
          Reply RE: Even I am not this power gamey. n/t, sleepy, 04-Jul-17 09:47 PM, #14
          Reply Are you Lhydia as well?, The-me, 04-Jul-17 10:42 PM, #15
               Reply I meant that it was in my opinion power gamey., sleepy, 05-Jul-17 12:18 AM, #16
                    Reply cool, The-me, 05-Jul-17 09:28 AM, #20
          Reply The bit about killing dwarves in the past..., Lhydia, 05-Jul-17 05:53 AM, #18
               Reply Sure, The-me, 05-Jul-17 09:27 AM, #19
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                         Reply RE: Is it still murder if the person has been dead for ..., crom, 05-Jul-17 03:56 PM, #35
                         Reply ????, The-me, 05-Jul-17 04:03 PM, #36
                         Reply RE: Is it still murder if the person has been dead for ..., Murphy, 05-Jul-17 04:29 PM, #37
                              Reply RE: Is it still murder if the person has been dead for ..., The-me, 05-Jul-17 04:34 PM, #38
                    Reply Swing and a miss., Lhydia, 05-Jul-17 10:29 AM, #22
                         Reply RE: Swing and a miss., The-me, 05-Jul-17 10:42 AM, #24
                              Reply guildmaster rewards exp, not imms, Dallevian, 05-Jul-17 02:32 PM, #27
                                   Reply Sorry let me clarify, The-me, 05-Jul-17 02:49 PM, #28
     Reply Well, if it's RP we're talking about, Kstatida, 05-Jul-17 05:53 AM, #17
     Reply RE: Well, if it's RP we're talking about, The-me, 05-Jul-17 10:43 AM, #25
     Reply Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?, Venara, 05-Jul-17 12:56 PM, #26
          Reply RE: Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?, The-me, 05-Jul-17 02:54 PM, #29
               Reply Neat, Venara, 05-Jul-17 03:15 PM, #30
                    Reply Right? n/t, Lhydia, 05-Jul-17 03:17 PM, #31
                    Reply Cool, The-me, 05-Jul-17 03:33 PM, #32
                         Reply So you still don't get it. Gotcha. n/t, Lhydia, 05-Jul-17 03:41 PM, #33
                              Reply No I really dont, The-me, 05-Jul-17 03:53 PM, #34
     Reply Grr. I was "Ghrim" and words hurt :(, TMNS, 04-Jul-17 02:51 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Grr. I was , Ghrimmli (Anonymous), 04-Jul-17 03:05 PM, #9
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     Reply Kinslayer , Craftedd (Anonymous), 06-Jul-17 09:21 AM, #41
          Reply You mean you're mcbeth?, Kstatida, 06-Jul-17 09:41 AM, #42
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                                   Reply RE:Or maybe..., The-me, 07-Jul-17 07:54 AM, #57
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                                                       Reply RE:Or maybe..., crom, 07-Jul-17 10:29 AM, #70
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                                   Reply RE: Let me put this into language you might understand, Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 09:17 AM, #62
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                                                  Reply RE: Kaiden what?, The-me, 07-Jul-17 10:14 AM, #69
                                                       Reply RE: Kaiden what?, Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 11:09 AM, #72
                                                            Reply ????, The-me, 07-Jul-17 11:15 AM, #73
                                                                 Reply You have to take responsibility for your choices. , Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 12:28 PM, #74
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