None of this is intended as a dig at you, the player. I liked watching Ghrimmli and I also enjoyed and/or respected your other characters.

But I don't want other people to get the idea that we're likely to utterly screw them over without warning.

I was the one who first spotted Ghrimmli killing dwarves in the Battlefield. I really loved his dwarfy role and description, with the burned-off beard, etc., so I decided to pop in and watch Ghrimmli and see if I could find an excuse to toss him some experience and maybe even start up a storyline.

Instead, I saw Ghrimmli killing a dwarf berserker. I wanted to warn him away from doing that and make sure he understood it was generally wrong for dwarves to be killing other dwarves for ranking. So I had the dwarf mobs he fought screaming, expressing outrage, and calling him a "betrayer" and "Kinslayer." It was not subtle at all - anyone any the area would have heard the five or six yells. I even had a dwarf berserker he was fighting ask, "Why are you doing this to your kin!?"

Ghrimmli's response was literally: "Aye ok pal"

^^^^ Cool, dwarves on the Battlefield have been dead for 10,000 years, Doesnt matter what you do to them, they are still dead. Having said that, I acknowledge you guys switching into mobs and ####ing with my ranking group, fun times, thanks for the efforts. Ghrimmlis response is based on the fact its a ghost, and it gives him 900 exp (If the gods had a problem with it, they shouldnt mechanically reward it so highly, that needs fixing immediately)

Following on from this, Ghrimmli started to avoid killing dwarves, if there were other ways to achieve his goals, he would do that. He didnt avoid killing any other species or align.

Ghrim had a ton of chances to make amends, change his ways, or just stop killing so many dwarves.

^^^^ So totally did this

First Kinslayer - I literally log on one day, 40 or so hours since I last killed a dwarf, and find I am kinslayer - Out of the blue - Sphere fire - role entry - Kingslayer - do some kingslaying, get mob death from guildmaster, Avatar of Rashael turns up, consider pincering avatar of Rashael, let it live instead.

Kingslayer title is applied - I still need dwarf items etc, I kill a dwarf (singular), and then notice the most amazing thing, I am no longer kinslayer (Mechanically I get you guys ####ed up with a title). But from an RP perspective, I'm the ####ing King of the Dwarves now! Killed their kings, freed them from never ending war and oppression they love me (AN actual Player DWARF turns up at this point and I'm worried I'm gonna have to pk a dwarf, but it turns out he is inspired for the same reasons as Ghrimmli, its not just Ghrimmli now, its a CAUSE), check it This guy is giving me his lightning axe etc.

40-50 Maybe more hours pass, I log on, after doing something retarded in ST the night before (dropped about 4 con) Have to replace about 6 pieces of gear, and I measured the gear that I didnt die for (heh it took me a while to figure it out and Im still not 100% sure ) as stuff I could kinship trade for, get to some dwarf, with an item to trade, Kinslayer - Again out of the blue (this is when you guys 'fixed' the error)


Another note to add: Playing for a while without specs at hero sure would suck, and I know the idea of seeking redemption sounds like a slog. But I think if a character really goes for it, redemption/restoration is very possible (and probably much quicker/less painful than it would have been in the past if it's done well).
^^^ This wasnt an option without compromising Ghrimmlis role/Character/ethos/persona - Its not that the idea of redemption seems a slog in Ghrimmlis case me as a powergamey ####, sit around and rp/write role updates for all those juicy imm exps, and my specs back SOUNDS AWESOME BRO, WHERE DO I SIGN UP - For Ghrimmli though, gods were ####, dangerous, but ####. I 100% felt you were like oh this guy has loss etc I totally want in on that action, Ghrimmli wanting nothing to do with that, so you keep hitting him with the Loss train (CF Gods are omnipotent right?) so first its Kinship, then Rashael follower harassing me, eventually looting me of dwarf only gear (Which yay I have to kill more dwarves to get back), Its not enough though, Ghrimmli doesnt give two ####s for you religion. So next thing Ghrimmli notices his Forgecraft is gone. At that point you just killed the character, then at the same time you nuked specs neither of which really makes sense (But if its hard and fast dwarven rp has to be this way or else, cool - Please make the mechanical changes I have highlighted to facilitate that). No specs means I cant effectively be any where near anyone dangerous, so its off to silent tower to con death for me. I was also TOTALLY happy doing that, but then I made you aware of your #### up, and your answer(Immland, and repeated by you and Ish) was 'meh, it was technical error'. Retconning someones life is not cool while the person is still alive guys, COME ON< MAN UP AND ACCEPT IT

Good luck with your next - I think you have a ton of potential to make an amazing and well-rounded character who makes a huge impact on Thera's story, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

All my characters are amazing and well-rounded and make a huge impact on thera's story, there wont be another character from me for 3-4 years, if at all.