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SeriphaxFri 07-Jul-17 01:02 AM
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#131731, "Do you realize how ironic it is to tell Ignolmeer that there is only one choice?"
Edited on Fri 07-Jul-17 01:03 AM

          

Delete/Delete is the players decision. Some people have tougher skin and more determination with regards to their character than others. There are people that lose one part of their set and they delete. As if every moment up until they got that piece of equipment was a waste of their time. If everyone gets mollycoddled over their own subjective pet peeves that push them delete this game will be much less fun in an awful hurry. In this particular case I think that a mistake was made, and that was just taking kinship without an explanation or even word of mention. A quick 'Hey we just removed kinship because you weren't supposed to get it back. It was an issue with the title change, but it is fixed now. You weren't supposed to get it back." would have told the player that oh, hey, the imms don't actually think the dwarves are back on my side. It likely would have tempered many of the other complaints as well.

Still, delete delete was not the only choice. Not long ago I was thinking of playing an odd race/align hook, going outside of the normal align perameters for the race. I sent a note to the imms and waited. Someone talked to me about it and explained up front that if I did this I would get the betrayer flag and wouldn't have access to weapon specs or legacies. They also said that while possible there would be no guarantee that I ever do get them. I was very tempted to play it anyway, just because the concept was so fun. When I have a bit more experience under my belt I intend to revisit the character, even if it turns out to be an up hill climb for their entire life. There were some great characters that started out as betrayer and worked their way back to their core class powers. It was the gnome fort ranger that gave me the inspiration to go off the map in the first place. It's not as easy as just rolling up another, I'll admit, but that is the cost of being so unique.

Besides, the imms gave plenty of warning in this circumstance. It wasn't just an "Oh this guy killed some dwarves, alright lets load up the bum rape cannon", they gave many in character warnings that the dwarves that he was killing didn't think it was right that one of their kinsmen was brining death to their door.

Edit: Typo in the subject.

  

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HOT Locked Topic(DELETED) [HERALD] Ghrimmli Firebeard the Dwarf-King Sl... [View all] , Death_Angel, Wed 05-Jul-17 02:09 PM
Reply Kinslayer!, Ishuli, 04-Jul-17 10:39 AM, #1
     Reply Thanks, Kstatida, 04-Jul-17 11:27 AM, #2
     Reply Thus, when Ghrimmli jumped beyond fifty kin-kills, it s..., The-me, 04-Jul-17 12:12 PM, #3
     Reply "Unannounced", Rahsael, 04-Jul-17 01:08 PM, #5
     Reply UNANNOUNCED, Ghrimmli (Anonymous), 04-Jul-17 01:48 PM, #6
     Reply Lol. I would say never change...but you never do :) NT, TMNS, 04-Jul-17 02:52 PM, #8
     Reply Even I am not this power gamey. n/t, Lhydia, 04-Jul-17 08:33 PM, #12
     Reply RE: Even I am not this power gamey. n/t, The-me, 04-Jul-17 08:43 PM, #13
          Reply RE: Even I am not this power gamey. n/t, sleepy, 04-Jul-17 09:47 PM, #14
          Reply Are you Lhydia as well?, The-me, 04-Jul-17 10:42 PM, #15
               Reply I meant that it was in my opinion power gamey., sleepy, 05-Jul-17 12:18 AM, #16
                    Reply cool, The-me, 05-Jul-17 09:28 AM, #20
          Reply The bit about killing dwarves in the past..., Lhydia, 05-Jul-17 05:53 AM, #18
               Reply Sure, The-me, 05-Jul-17 09:27 AM, #19
                    Reply RE: Is it still murder if the person has been dead for ..., Murphy, 05-Jul-17 09:59 AM, #21
                    Reply RE: Is it still murder if the person has been dead for ..., The-me, 05-Jul-17 10:38 AM, #23
                         Reply RE: Is it still murder if the person has been dead for ..., crom, 05-Jul-17 03:56 PM, #35
                         Reply ????, The-me, 05-Jul-17 04:03 PM, #36
                         Reply RE: Is it still murder if the person has been dead for ..., Murphy, 05-Jul-17 04:29 PM, #37
                              Reply RE: Is it still murder if the person has been dead for ..., The-me, 05-Jul-17 04:34 PM, #38
                    Reply Swing and a miss., Lhydia, 05-Jul-17 10:29 AM, #22
                         Reply RE: Swing and a miss., The-me, 05-Jul-17 10:42 AM, #24
                              Reply guildmaster rewards exp, not imms, Dallevian, 05-Jul-17 02:32 PM, #27
                                   Reply Sorry let me clarify, The-me, 05-Jul-17 02:49 PM, #28
     Reply Well, if it's RP we're talking about, Kstatida, 05-Jul-17 05:53 AM, #17
     Reply RE: Well, if it's RP we're talking about, The-me, 05-Jul-17 10:43 AM, #25
     Reply Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?, Venara, 05-Jul-17 12:56 PM, #26
          Reply RE: Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?, The-me, 05-Jul-17 02:54 PM, #29
               Reply Neat, Venara, 05-Jul-17 03:15 PM, #30
                    Reply Right? n/t, Lhydia, 05-Jul-17 03:17 PM, #31
                    Reply Cool, The-me, 05-Jul-17 03:33 PM, #32
                         Reply So you still don't get it. Gotcha. n/t, Lhydia, 05-Jul-17 03:41 PM, #33
                              Reply No I really dont, The-me, 05-Jul-17 03:53 PM, #34
     Reply Grr. I was "Ghrim" and words hurt :(, TMNS, 04-Jul-17 02:51 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Grr. I was , Ghrimmli (Anonymous), 04-Jul-17 03:05 PM, #9
               Reply Pretty sure everyone has known this for decades, laxman, 04-Jul-17 05:53 PM, #10
                    Reply Kinship, Ghrimmli (Anonymous), 04-Jul-17 08:14 PM, #11
     Reply Krilcov? (nt), robdarken_, 06-Jul-17 12:48 AM, #39
          Reply Heh, The-me, 06-Jul-17 08:06 AM, #40
               Reply Okay it all makes sense then. n/t, Lhydia, 06-Jul-17 03:43 PM, #45
     Reply Also if you were Rooting for Kaiden, The-me, 04-Jul-17 12:15 PM, #4
     Reply Kinslayer , Craftedd (Anonymous), 06-Jul-17 09:21 AM, #41
          Reply You mean you're mcbeth?, Kstatida, 06-Jul-17 09:41 AM, #42
          Reply No idea what you are saying., CD, 06-Jul-17 09:53 AM, #43
               Reply I'll cry till you drown, Kstatida, 07-Jul-17 09:00 AM, #60
          Reply Thanks, The-me, 06-Jul-17 10:16 AM, #44
               Reply You had more than one good kill. ..., Ignolmeer, 06-Jul-17 05:21 PM, #46
                    Reply RE: You had more than one good kill. ..., The-me, 06-Jul-17 06:39 PM, #47
                    Reply I'll bite..., Grifter, 06-Jul-17 07:52 PM, #48
                         Reply You forgot #MCFGA. NT, TMNS, 06-Jul-17 08:26 PM, #49
                         Reply I partially agree with this in the regards that..., Blkdrgn, 06-Jul-17 08:48 PM, #50
                         Reply Meh, Destuvius, 06-Jul-17 09:34 PM, #51
                         Reply I dunno like, The-me, 06-Jul-17 09:41 PM, #52
                         Reply Do you realize how ironic it is to tell Ignolmeer that ..., Seriphax, 07-Jul-17 01:03 AM #53
                              Reply RE: Do you realize how ironic it is to tell Ignolmeer t..., Kstatida, 07-Jul-17 04:04 AM, #54
                              Reply RE:Or maybe..., Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 07:45 AM, #56
                                   Reply RE:Or maybe..., The-me, 07-Jul-17 07:54 AM, #57
                                   Reply RE:Or maybe..., Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 08:51 AM, #59
                                        Reply RE:Or maybe..., The-me, 07-Jul-17 09:18 AM, #63
                                             Reply RE:Or maybe..., Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 09:28 AM, #65
                                                  Reply RE:Or maybe..., The-me, 07-Jul-17 09:40 AM, #67
                                                       Reply RE:Or maybe..., crom, 07-Jul-17 10:29 AM, #70
                                                            Reply Its fascinating, The-me, 07-Jul-17 10:33 AM, #71
                                   Reply Let me put this into language you might understand, The-me, 07-Jul-17 08:13 AM, #58
                                   Reply RE: Let me put this into language you might understand, Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 09:17 AM, #62
                                        Reply >Forgive and forget - we're human up here too despite ..., The-me, 07-Jul-17 09:36 AM, #66
                                             Reply Kaiden what?, Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 09:55 AM, #68
                                                  Reply RE: Kaiden what?, The-me, 07-Jul-17 10:14 AM, #69
                                                       Reply RE: Kaiden what?, Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 11:09 AM, #72
                                                            Reply ????, The-me, 07-Jul-17 11:15 AM, #73
                                                                 Reply You have to take responsibility for your choices. , Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 12:28 PM, #74
                                   Reply After it went boom, no choices are fun :), Kstatida, 07-Jul-17 09:05 AM, #61
                                        Reply Subjective but..., Ignolmeer, 07-Jul-17 09:19 AM, #64
                              Reply RE: Do you realize how ironic it is to tell Ignolmeer t..., The-me, 07-Jul-17 06:41 AM, #55
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