>Yes it is.
>
>What you're doing isn't digging up some 10000-year old bones
>and then crunch them in a bonegrinder. You go back to a time
>where they were still alive, and you kill them.
>^^^ But they are already dead?
>
>
>
>You cut their life short at whatever age they were at that
>time, whereas otherwise they may have lived to 250 or however
>much the dwarves life expectancy is.
>^^^ Nah all these dudes die on the battlefield today,
>otherwise killing them would have consequences in the future
>it does not.
>
>
>The past is not a dream-like world and it's not ghosts or
>virtual dwarves. Those are just as real as your character's
>contemporaries.
>^^^ So they can follow me out of the past?
>
>
>Hell, there was a dwarf PC who was born in the past. Does it
>mean it would be okay to murder him, too?
>^^^ I dont know, what cabal is he?
>
>
>
>Saying that killing people in the past areas doesn't have an
>effect in the present is a poor excuse.
>^^^ Its not an excuse its a mechanical fact
>
>
>If I kill that paladin mob with the nodrop weapon that I can't
>request, he reappears in 3 minutes, but does that mean it's
>not murder, IC?
>^^^ I dont know, do we ever really kill anything? Maybe you
>just knocked him out and robbed him? I bet you get -30 exp
>though if you kill him to tell you that killing him is a bad
>idea.
>
>
>Just to be clear, because there seems to be some confusion,
>Ghrimmli was an arms dealer, who traded to both sides in any
>potential conflict, nothing personal just business, he fought
>in many wars, on both sides as a mercenary, nothing personal
>just business.
>
>TO be clear I am 100% ok with the Kinslayer stuff, (I am
>questioning the state of those dwarfs in the past though),
>what I am not ok with was how/when each kinslayer flag was
>applied, how their was 0 understanding from the Imms involved
>that a physical change to the entire dwarven people randomly
>being applied twice in confrontational ways, out of the blue
>might cause a huge hole in the characters life, following that
>up with Spec loss, again I'm ok with the punishment - The line
>used as an echo made no sense to the context of the character.
>
>
>It didnt affect Ghrimmli as far as my personal goals for the
>character were concerned, it meant I could no longer rp as a
>blacksmith, it meant I couldnt host any further tournaments
>without people figuring out the spec loss and mauling the ####
>out of me later. It meant I couldnt hang out in cities, or
>even the Inn. As it happened when the Immortal approached me
>to discuss it, I had just figured out the final piece of the
>puzzle for ST (probably), I heard their explanation, it made
>total sense to me from a player perspective I just couldnt
>play Ghrimmli in any other way, and still be Ghrimmli
>Rather than stick to the RP they themselves created by
>accident, they just fixed it Its cool I think everyone is
>much clearer on how to carrionfields now, I sure am.
>

Christ, stop being so dense.

You're killing them because they give decent XP, and your weak, after-the-fact rationalizations aren't fooling any one.

If, by some chance, an immortal had sent you an echo on each change, you still would have found something else to gripe about.