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IsildurTue 13-Nov-07 04:25 PM
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#96, "RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual improvement?"


          

>Your example of writing a tool to do area
>generation is a perfect example. It would probably take me
>three times as long to get a tool done and in any sort of
>working state as it will to get the shifter revamp done. So
>far it's been about 6 months of my freetime. So in 18 months
> with no visible changes to CF), you can get a tool that'll
>help you write areas better/quicker. Which is more valuable?
>I'd argue the shifter revamp.

I actually spent some time thinking about this while working on my area. (Time I should have spent on the area itself, as it turns out.) What struck me as the most complicated part is that rooms needn't conform to normal 3d space, so you can't just map them onto a 3d grid. It has to be an arbitrary graph, which is a lot harder to represent visually.

One side thought: how much time do you estimate will be spent creating and/or editing areas before CF eventually shuts down? How much of that time would be saved if a graphical editor were available? If the saved time is more than the 18 months it would take you to build the thing, then in the long run it might be worthwhile.

The counter-argument, of course, is that your time (as an Implementor) is worth much more than the time spent by heroimms creating their areas. So it's not an apples to apples comparison.

  

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HOT TopicA Proposal [View all] , Mekantos, Wed 14-Nov-07 11:44 AM
Reply Why I would be against this., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 09:45 AM, #45
Reply As for me (and other players), there is almost no candy..., Dervish, 14-Nov-07 09:54 AM, #47
Reply The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 06:20 AM, #39
Reply RE: The question from me!, Valguarnera, 14-Nov-07 07:21 AM, #41
     Reply RE: The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 07:38 AM, #42
          Reply RE: The question from me!, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 09:33 AM, #44
               Reply RE: The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 09:51 AM, #46
                    Reply Without going into specifics., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 11:44 AM, #49
Reply Not I., Valguarnera, 08-Nov-07 07:14 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Not I., Tahren, 08-Nov-07 02:31 PM, #2
     Reply Another angle, Mekantos, 08-Nov-07 03:25 PM, #3
     Reply I think you're missing the point., Cyradia, 12-Nov-07 05:24 PM, #5
          Reply You put the worst spin imaginable on my post, Mekantos, 12-Nov-07 07:51 PM, #6
          Reply You know what, forget it. This is not worth it. -nt-, Mekantos, 12-Nov-07 07:54 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Why areas?, Valguarnera, 13-Nov-07 07:43 AM, #8
          Reply Thank you for a good response -nt-, Mekantos, 13-Nov-07 12:31 PM, #12
          Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 13-Nov-07 04:13 PM, #17
               Reply RE: Why areas?, Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:07 PM, #21
                    Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 13-Nov-07 05:28 PM, #24
                         Reply RE: Why areas?, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-07 11:45 AM, #50
                              Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 14-Nov-07 01:12 AM, #37
                              Reply Think systemic:, Valguarnera, 14-Nov-07 07:11 AM, #40
                                   Reply RE: Think systemic:, Isildur, 14-Nov-07 09:19 AM, #43
                                        Reply RE: Think systemic:, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-07 11:43 AM, #48
                                             Reply RE: Think systemic:, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:20 PM, #51
                              Reply The problem is that mortals cannot empower. nt, DurNominator, 14-Nov-07 05:44 AM, #38
          Reply RE: You put the worst spin imaginable on my post, Daevryn, 13-Nov-07 09:01 AM, #9
               Reply Thanks for a good response -nt-, Mekantos, 13-Nov-07 12:30 PM, #11
          Reply does the immortal staff use a system of continual impro..., laxman, 13-Nov-07 11:40 AM, #10
               Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 12:45 PM, #13
                    Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., laxman, 13-Nov-07 01:56 PM, #14
                         Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 02:16 PM, #15
                         Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Isildur, 13-Nov-07 04:25 PM #18
                              Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:05 PM, #20
                         Reply Let me guess, just took a six sigma class? NT, Dragomir, 13-Nov-07 02:32 PM, #16
                         Reply actually I major in OEM nt, laxman, 13-Nov-07 05:07 PM, #22
                         Reply If you minus the snotty tone, and cocky ass attitude, I..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 05:02 PM, #19
                              Reply Ninja society..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:14 PM, #23
                                   Reply I would love., Dallevian, 13-Nov-07 05:44 PM, #25
                                   Reply There is a CF facebook group, Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:48 PM, #26
                                        Reply No, thanks., Dallevian, 13-Nov-07 05:53 PM, #27
                                   Reply RE: Ninja society..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 06:16 PM, #28
                                        Reply Re: generalizations, TheDude, 13-Nov-07 06:48 PM, #29
                                        Reply RE: Re: generalizations, Stunna, 13-Nov-07 07:18 PM, #30
                                        Reply RE: Re: generalizations, TheDude, 13-Nov-07 08:58 PM, #31
                                             Reply Good Post, Stunna, 13-Nov-07 08:59 PM, #32
                                        Reply RE: generalizations, Valguarnera, 13-Nov-07 09:14 PM, #33
                                             Reply Well, there goes me assuming again.., TheDude, 13-Nov-07 10:18 PM, #35
                                             Reply That's not the problem..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 10:23 PM, #36
                                        Reply One idea I really like..., Gryshilniar, 13-Nov-07 10:06 PM, #34
     Reply RE: Not I., colospgsbryan, 08-Nov-07 10:10 PM, #4
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