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StunnaTue 13-Nov-07 05:02 PM
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This was a horribly written post, but he does make a couple solid points.

I think what CF really lacks is someone with a vested interest in it. I know the volunteer imps all work hard, and you all care about the result of your work. But this isn't anyones baby, there isn't an "owner" ... and I think at the end of the day the scope of what the staff is looking at isn't broad enough.

He's right, okay - a lot of time is spent polishing the brass on the titanic. As a consultant I see this all the time - a business owner spends all his time in the one area of the business that he enjoys, but not necessarily the one with the highest return. New skills, class revamps, quests all that stuff is great... but those aren't the things that bring new players. (or replacement players)

The current immstaff is jaded. You guys make flippant, unprofessional comments to players. I know it's a volunteer game... but look, the owner of the company can't be a #### to customers and expect to continue to do good business. I know you guys take so much crap, and it isn't fair, and there's not a payoff... but responding in kind creates a lose lose.

You need fresh unjaded people on the staff - people who are having fun and enjoying what they do. You also need staff members who are doing the really simple, free things you can do to bring in players. Why don't these things get done? Well it's pretty much what laxman is describing - slow implementation. I'm guessing maybe one out of twenty or so heroimms ever make it to 53. Ugh, people... this isn't a ninja society... that's TOO exclusive. I know that you have to screen people, but from personal experience you guys do a good job of turning off and driving away good people who honestly want to help out.

I think those of us out here who understand business look at Carrion Fields LLC and just see a really poorly run company that is, sadly, on it's way out. Whether you are a non profit or not, your a business, and to be succesful you probably need to act like one. Right now it feels like a sandbox at the local cool kids house that we're allowed to play in. That worked better for us in college, and better when there weren't so many rules for the sandbox.

Valg, Nep, Zhulg did a tremendous job of cleaning up the game when the original leadership fell out. Hey, thanks! Now I think there needs to be some leadership with a wider vision for CF. This game is great... the adminstration is horrible.

I get it! It's volunteer! But... unless you want to be volunteering for an empty mud we really need to start making some changes.

Also, while I'm ranting let me just say that from my observations playing the game and talking to other players and X staff(some I've known now for 10 years or more!)the playerbase is getting just as jaded as the immstaff. Eventually what you end up with is all the biggest #### players left, and players who aren't ####s but are starting to act like it because they are forced to deal with the ####s all the time. You have to affect the ratio of #### to non-#### players by adding new players.

So yea, that's my .02 - but unfortunatly these posts never really lead anywhere, and I'm left feeling like I just wasted fifteen minutes of my life. Ugh...

  

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HOT TopicA Proposal [View all] , Mekantos, Wed 14-Nov-07 11:44 AM
Reply Why I would be against this., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 09:45 AM, #45
Reply As for me (and other players), there is almost no candy..., Dervish, 14-Nov-07 09:54 AM, #47
Reply The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 06:20 AM, #39
Reply RE: The question from me!, Valguarnera, 14-Nov-07 07:21 AM, #41
     Reply RE: The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 07:38 AM, #42
          Reply RE: The question from me!, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 09:33 AM, #44
               Reply RE: The question from me!, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 09:51 AM, #46
                    Reply Without going into specifics., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 11:44 AM, #49
Reply Not I., Valguarnera, 08-Nov-07 07:14 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Not I., Tahren, 08-Nov-07 02:31 PM, #2
     Reply Another angle, Mekantos, 08-Nov-07 03:25 PM, #3
     Reply I think you're missing the point., Cyradia, 12-Nov-07 05:24 PM, #5
          Reply You put the worst spin imaginable on my post, Mekantos, 12-Nov-07 07:51 PM, #6
          Reply You know what, forget it. This is not worth it. -nt-, Mekantos, 12-Nov-07 07:54 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Why areas?, Valguarnera, 13-Nov-07 07:43 AM, #8
          Reply Thank you for a good response -nt-, Mekantos, 13-Nov-07 12:31 PM, #12
          Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 13-Nov-07 04:13 PM, #17
               Reply RE: Why areas?, Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:07 PM, #21
                    Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 13-Nov-07 05:28 PM, #24
                         Reply RE: Why areas?, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-07 11:45 AM, #50
                              Reply RE: Why areas?, Isildur, 14-Nov-07 01:12 AM, #37
                              Reply Think systemic:, Valguarnera, 14-Nov-07 07:11 AM, #40
                                   Reply RE: Think systemic:, Isildur, 14-Nov-07 09:19 AM, #43
                                        Reply RE: Think systemic:, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-07 11:43 AM, #48
                                             Reply RE: Think systemic:, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:20 PM, #51
                              Reply The problem is that mortals cannot empower. nt, DurNominator, 14-Nov-07 05:44 AM, #38
          Reply RE: You put the worst spin imaginable on my post, Daevryn, 13-Nov-07 09:01 AM, #9
               Reply Thanks for a good response -nt-, Mekantos, 13-Nov-07 12:30 PM, #11
          Reply does the immortal staff use a system of continual impro..., laxman, 13-Nov-07 11:40 AM, #10
               Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 12:45 PM, #13
                    Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., laxman, 13-Nov-07 01:56 PM, #14
                         Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 02:16 PM, #15
                         Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Isildur, 13-Nov-07 04:25 PM, #18
                              Reply RE: does the immortal staff use a system of continual i..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:05 PM, #20
                         Reply Let me guess, just took a six sigma class? NT, Dragomir, 13-Nov-07 02:32 PM, #16
                         Reply actually I major in OEM nt, laxman, 13-Nov-07 05:07 PM, #22
                         Reply If you minus the snotty tone, and cocky ass attitude, I..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 05:02 PM #19
                              Reply Ninja society..., Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:14 PM, #23
                                   Reply I would love., Dallevian, 13-Nov-07 05:44 PM, #25
                                   Reply There is a CF facebook group, Zulghinlour, 13-Nov-07 05:48 PM, #26
                                        Reply No, thanks., Dallevian, 13-Nov-07 05:53 PM, #27
                                   Reply RE: Ninja society..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 06:16 PM, #28
                                        Reply Re: generalizations, TheDude, 13-Nov-07 06:48 PM, #29
                                        Reply RE: Re: generalizations, Stunna, 13-Nov-07 07:18 PM, #30
                                        Reply RE: Re: generalizations, TheDude, 13-Nov-07 08:58 PM, #31
                                             Reply Good Post, Stunna, 13-Nov-07 08:59 PM, #32
                                        Reply RE: generalizations, Valguarnera, 13-Nov-07 09:14 PM, #33
                                             Reply Well, there goes me assuming again.., TheDude, 13-Nov-07 10:18 PM, #35
                                             Reply That's not the problem..., Stunna, 13-Nov-07 10:23 PM, #36
                                        Reply One idea I really like..., Gryshilniar, 13-Nov-07 10:06 PM, #34
     Reply RE: Not I., colospgsbryan, 08-Nov-07 10:10 PM, #4
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