But what I have to say is distasteful, so I haven't. I think I have to though, as I think it is the best way to drive my point home. Also, it is my opinion that if you aren't ok with the most extreme case, then you really aren't ok with it at all.

I'm going to apologize in advance for this. It is inexusable, but considering that I find abortion at least as offensive as what follows... well...

Hypothecital situation: You and you lovely fiance find yourselves with child. You decide to have the child because you love each other and are getting married, and were going to have children anyway. You give birth to a wonderful and healthy baby boy. A year after your child is born, I show up, and guillotine (sp?) your baby and your dog. What crimes should I be charged with? I'm pretty sure that in that situation, you'd be pushing for murder and the death penalty, but if you truely beleive what you've said earlier, I would argue that it would be something like animal abuse, and destruction of property. If *you* get to murder your child with impunity, why can't anyone else? You don't own children. You may own your dog, but you don't get to beat it and starve it to death. You certainly don't get to do those things (legally) to children... so long as they've exited the womb. Before that, you get to kill them indiscriminately? I don't think so.

One last disturbing point. If I walk up to a pregnant woman and punch her in the stomach, resulting in a miscarraige, I don't get charged with battery... Manslaughter is probably the minimum, and that's *assuming* I didn't do it for that purpose. I wish I had PJ's ability to find case law, because I'm betting this has happened somewhere, but I'll leave that up to someone else. The point is that I *should* be charged with something beyond battery, and anyone who thinks differently isn't in favor of abortion, just like in the previous situation...

For what I understand, the number of people looking to adopt is rather insanely high compared to those who are willing to put their child up for adoption.... #### you don't even have to raise the unwanted child, but you ####ed up, you made the choice, now live with 9 months of consequences. It's the least you can do.

Also, people who are so poor that their children are growing up to be violent criminals aren't getting abortions. They can't afford the abortion. Another child means more welfare. Plus they obviously don't care. People who are getting abortions are middle class people who just aren't willing to accept the consequences of their actions.

I'm done....