-flso | Mon 14-Dec-15 07:06 PM |
Member since 02nd Oct 2007
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#61957, "I think you are wrong in your assumptions"
Edited on Mon 14-Dec-15 07:07 PM
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Edges clearly from the moment they were introduced, went a lot further than just enticing ppl to use different skills.
They *changed the way classes played, and in some cases this happened in a major way*.
To me they always felt like a compromise to changing the classes themselves. It is easier to introduce changes with edges, see how they work out in practice, and maybe in the future roll them into the class (or not), than go in and change the class outright.
A lot of the class mechanics were downright broken and edges helped a lot with this. Some mechanics are still broken (and a few edges broke some of their own), but hey, they're fewer than before so overall I'd say the edge changes have been overwhelmingly positive.
If someone removed all edges right now, you'd end up with a broken game.
Forget the complicated stuff that Isildur is proposing, the following (2) steps would introduce a lot more FUN in CF:
+ Find ways to make edges *easier to get* without tedium, not harder, across the board for everyone. + Play around with edges a lot more, meaning code new ones/remove existing ones that are deemed broken and so on. The barrier to entry for this is low.
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Is it just me?
[View all] , demon, Fri 11-Dec-15 06:12 PM
Any cons to age based edgepoint accumulation?,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 06:36 AM, #41
Just eliminate Obs/Explore already.,
lasentia,
16-Dec-15 08:08 AM, #42
No,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 10:50 AM, #43
There are much better reasons to explore than obs/exp X...,
Homard,
16-Dec-15 11:35 AM, #46
The problem is those incentives don't work that well,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 12:14 PM, #47
RE: No,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 12:31 PM, #48
You will hear a buzzer. When you hear the buzzer, stare...,
Murphy,
16-Dec-15 12:45 PM, #49
RE: No,
Isildur,
16-Dec-15 01:34 PM, #51
Your reasons are totally valid as well,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #52
You argue that everyone should be subject to the grind ...,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 02:42 PM, #53
I argue that obs/exp is a good incentive for new player...,
Kstatida,
17-Dec-15 09:21 AM, #55
Enjoy remaining average at best,
lasentia,
17-Dec-15 07:45 AM, #54
Skill>gear>preps>skill%s>edges,
Kstatida,
17-Dec-15 09:36 AM, #56
RE: Just eliminate Obs/Explore already.,
Isildur,
16-Dec-15 11:08 AM, #44
i use that exp to rank,
laxman,
16-Dec-15 11:20 AM, #45
RE: Is it just me?,
Borkahd,
13-Dec-15 03:18 PM, #31
RE: Is it just me?,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 06:50 AM, #10
Edges,
Saagkri,
12-Dec-15 09:26 AM, #12
RE: Edges,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 09:43 AM, #13
Oops. Speaking generic IMM re: the rewards, not directe...,
Saagkri,
12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #15
Nice cover-up attempt.,
TMNS,
12-Dec-15 10:18 PM, #28
Did I miss something as to who Destuvius is? NT,
Onewingedangel,
14-Dec-15 04:30 PM, #32
No, Sam is just being Sam. (nt),
Umiron,
14-Dec-15 05:05 PM, #33
Ah, figures. ,
Onewingedangel,
14-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #34
Well...who am I supposed to be? NT,
TMNS,
15-Dec-15 12:28 AM, #37
This.,
Murphy,
12-Dec-15 10:48 AM, #17
RE: Is it just me?,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #16
Edges are one of the stupidest CF ideas ever. NT,
TMNS,
12-Dec-15 02:00 AM, #6
RE: Is it just me?,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 12:32 AM, #5
Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
-flso,
12-Dec-15 07:49 AM, #11
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 10:22 AM, #14
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 12:25 PM, #18
Probably wants others to experience what he does so the...,
Lhydia,
12-Dec-15 12:56 PM, #19
Just for you...,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 01:02 PM, #20
Hey buddy..lets not bring facts into this argument. <3 ...,
Lhydia,
12-Dec-15 01:23 PM, #23
My bad..,
Destuvius,
13-Dec-15 12:15 PM, #29
RE: Probably wants others to experience what he does so...,
Umiron,
12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #22
Request and question:,
Iunna,
12-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #25
RE: Request and question:,
Umiron,
12-Dec-15 02:14 PM, #26
It's nowhere near consistent.,
Murphy,
12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #21
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 02:16 PM, #27
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 01:13 PM, #50
Not keen,
incognito,
12-Dec-15 01:39 PM, #24
RE: Is it just me?,
Umiron,
11-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #1
RE: Is it just me?,
demon,
11-Dec-15 07:10 PM, #2
I'll bite,
Sertius,
11-Dec-15 09:26 PM, #3
Imo,
incognito,
12-Dec-15 03:38 AM, #7
Saying "must have",
incognito,
12-Dec-15 03:43 AM, #8
RE: I'll bite,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 06:43 AM, #9
My take on the Edge dilemma.,
Quixotic,
13-Dec-15 01:48 PM, #30
I think you are wrong in your assumptions,
-flso,
14-Dec-15 07:07 PM #35
Cyradia's post introducing edges:,
Quixotic,
14-Dec-15 10:28 PM, #36
This wasn't the start of edges though...,
Elerosse,
15-Dec-15 08:45 PM, #38
This guy gets it. n/t,
Eskelian,
15-Dec-15 09:05 PM, #39
RE: I'll bite,
Eskelian,
15-Dec-15 09:07 PM, #40
What edges do you need to compete?,
laxman,
11-Dec-15 10:13 PM, #4
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