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SertiusFri 11-Dec-15 09:26 PM
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#61908, "I'll bite"


          

I've played around five serious hero chars in the past 12 months, all caballed, generally with 2k+ Imm xp (new style,) some noticeable, some not. What I did notice is the halving of edge exploration/observation did produce a grind effect to the edges no matter the class and the goals of the char.

While previously I have made no specific effort to produce 10-15K exp/obs by hero and was generally fine without having to grind it out or even think about it, now I do have to consciously keep the edges in mind. There are a set of edges that are pretty much "required" to compete on an even foot and/or make a build convenient and pleasing enough to play. While previously this came with no specific effort by hero, the current situation had an unfortunate Valg effect to it IMHO, i.e. nerfing.

I'm not talking about expecting to have everything out there the second I hit hero with all builds, but having ~1k Imm xp from 3-4 imms, ~1k role xp, ~10-15 obs/exp XP, plus reasonable (per build) PK record should IMHO allow me to pick the set of edges that allow that particular build to compete. For example, if I was gnome warrior, both the edges for gnome warrior, plus all the seasons (Owl) edges plus about two spec edges. And I probably would love to have enough left over to have a choice of extra training if I need it.

What's great about CF is the customization allowed and the edges in my view are a great addition. However, the current setup, especially for some classes (AP and druid for example) does not allow for enough the edges for the type of chars you might want to have around.

Also, examples like smoke and mirrors, seasons warrior edges, shield paladin edges, countless etc should be just rolled into the appropriate class (additional skill or level-based, up to you) since they're obviously a must-have and are probably taken by ~100% of players who understand how things work.

I would also think on expanding the skills in 44-51 range (much like orc skills) to promote less level-sitting, which gets old and does not promote RP (especially for AP and assassins).

  

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HOT TopicIs it just me? [View all] , demon, Fri 11-Dec-15 06:12 PM
Reply Any cons to age based edgepoint accumulation?, Saagkri, 16-Dec-15 06:36 AM, #41
Reply Just eliminate Obs/Explore already., lasentia, 16-Dec-15 08:08 AM, #42
     Reply No, Kstatida, 16-Dec-15 10:50 AM, #43
     Reply There are much better reasons to explore than obs/exp X..., Homard, 16-Dec-15 11:35 AM, #46
     Reply The problem is those incentives don't work that well, Kstatida, 16-Dec-15 12:14 PM, #47
     Reply RE: No, Saagkri, 16-Dec-15 12:31 PM, #48
          Reply You will hear a buzzer. When you hear the buzzer, stare..., Murphy, 16-Dec-15 12:45 PM, #49
          Reply RE: No, Isildur, 16-Dec-15 01:34 PM, #51
          Reply Your reasons are totally valid as well, Kstatida, 16-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #52
               Reply You argue that everyone should be subject to the grind ..., Saagkri, 16-Dec-15 02:42 PM, #53
               Reply I argue that obs/exp is a good incentive for new player..., Kstatida, 17-Dec-15 09:21 AM, #55
               Reply Enjoy remaining average at best, lasentia, 17-Dec-15 07:45 AM, #54
                    Reply Skill>gear>preps>skill%s>edges, Kstatida, 17-Dec-15 09:36 AM, #56
     Reply RE: Just eliminate Obs/Explore already., Isildur, 16-Dec-15 11:08 AM, #44
     Reply i use that exp to rank, laxman, 16-Dec-15 11:20 AM, #45
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Borkahd, 13-Dec-15 03:18 PM, #31
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 06:50 AM, #10
Reply Edges, Saagkri, 12-Dec-15 09:26 AM, #12
Reply RE: Edges, Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 09:43 AM, #13
Reply Oops. Speaking generic IMM re: the rewards, not directe..., Saagkri, 12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #15
Reply Nice cover-up attempt., TMNS, 12-Dec-15 10:18 PM, #28
     Reply Did I miss something as to who Destuvius is? NT, Onewingedangel, 14-Dec-15 04:30 PM, #32
          Reply No, Sam is just being Sam. (nt), Umiron, 14-Dec-15 05:05 PM, #33
               Reply Ah, figures. , Onewingedangel, 14-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #34
               Reply Well...who am I supposed to be? NT, TMNS, 15-Dec-15 12:28 AM, #37
Reply This., Murphy, 12-Dec-15 10:48 AM, #17
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Isildur, 12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #16
Reply Edges are one of the stupidest CF ideas ever. NT, TMNS, 12-Dec-15 02:00 AM, #6
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Isildur, 12-Dec-15 12:32 AM, #5
Reply Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, -flso, 12-Dec-15 07:49 AM, #11
     Reply RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, Isildur, 12-Dec-15 10:22 AM, #14
     Reply RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 12:25 PM, #18
     Reply Probably wants others to experience what he does so the..., Lhydia, 12-Dec-15 12:56 PM, #19
     Reply Just for you..., Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 01:02 PM, #20
     Reply Hey buddy..lets not bring facts into this argument. <3 ..., Lhydia, 12-Dec-15 01:23 PM, #23
          Reply My bad.., Destuvius, 13-Dec-15 12:15 PM, #29
     Reply RE: Probably wants others to experience what he does so..., Umiron, 12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #22
          Reply Request and question:, Iunna, 12-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #25
               Reply RE: Request and question:, Umiron, 12-Dec-15 02:14 PM, #26
     Reply It's nowhere near consistent., Murphy, 12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #21
     Reply RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, Isildur, 12-Dec-15 02:16 PM, #27
     Reply RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go, Saagkri, 16-Dec-15 01:13 PM, #50
     Reply Not keen, incognito, 12-Dec-15 01:39 PM, #24
Reply RE: Is it just me?, Umiron, 11-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Is it just me?, demon, 11-Dec-15 07:10 PM, #2
     Reply I'll bite, Sertius, 11-Dec-15 09:26 PM #3
     Reply Imo, incognito, 12-Dec-15 03:38 AM, #7
     Reply Saying "must have", incognito, 12-Dec-15 03:43 AM, #8
     Reply RE: I'll bite, Destuvius, 12-Dec-15 06:43 AM, #9
          Reply My take on the Edge dilemma., Quixotic, 13-Dec-15 01:48 PM, #30
          Reply I think you are wrong in your assumptions, -flso, 14-Dec-15 07:07 PM, #35
          Reply Cyradia's post introducing edges:, Quixotic, 14-Dec-15 10:28 PM, #36
               Reply This wasn't the start of edges though..., Elerosse, 15-Dec-15 08:45 PM, #38
          Reply This guy gets it. n/t, Eskelian, 15-Dec-15 09:05 PM, #39
          Reply RE: I'll bite, Eskelian, 15-Dec-15 09:07 PM, #40
     Reply What edges do you need to compete?, laxman, 11-Dec-15 10:13 PM, #4
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