Isildur | Sat 12-Dec-15 10:22 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#61921, "RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go"
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>Remove it, completely.
Gotta disagree. My idea to have low-ish caps effectively removes it as a concern for anyone who isn't spending all his/her time sitting in a guild or the Inn. I think it's good to have something that motivates a new player to actually go out and do a minimal level of exploration/observation instead of never going anywhere. The intent is for the caps to be set such that someone behaving "normally" (i.e. no intentional gathering of observation/exploration) will hit the cap after a couple hundred hours.
>Explore XP can stay with no caps if the common/easy areas no >longer give any.
Disagree here too. If there's no cap then that has the potential to create another perverse incentive. I may already have 20k exploration XP, but if I haven't visited {tough area} then I need to assemble a group of folks and go visit it because it's still worth edge points.
>No caps for edge points from PKs
Again, disagree. For one, I don't want characters like Gaspare getting basically "all the edges" because they have 10x as many PKs as most other players. If anything I would lower the cap at which PKs stop generating edge points. Possibly increase the points-per-PK so that the total # of points remains roughly the same.
>no fixed # of PKs by xx
In the past I would have agreed with you on this one, but it occurs to me that removing this logic would remove the disincentive for players to just race to their combo's "sweet spot" and then get all their PKs there. I do think the caps should be significantly lowered though. Maybe you get some edge points for getting your first PK in each five-level range, but no more points after that. This rewards people for participating in PK at all points along the level spectrum, but reduces the amount of time people actively avoid ranking while trying to get 15 PKs at each level tier.
>Give out increasing number of edge points every 150 hours.
This already more or less happens, since you get edge points for hitting different "age" tiers.
>Edge points for joining a cabal. >More edge points for becoming leader.
I could see edge points for joining a cabal, maybe. Leaders already get some because you earn cabal xp when you're leaderized. Not sure leaders need more help.
I would like to see edge points more strongly associated with imm xp, and I'd like to see imms hand out imm xp more easily when someone is observed doing something we want to incentivize. Role-playing, not being a docuhe-bag, etc. Basically lower the bar for what qualifies as being worthy of imm exp.
The caveat here is that characters aren't evenly observed. So if you had two guys who were equally "good" in terms of role-play, etc. and one was observed more than the other, that guy would end up with more edge points. Which isn't fair.
So maybe we put a low-ish cap on the # of points that can be earned from imm exp. Set it low enough that the guy who isn't observed as often will still eventually hit the cap so long as he role-plays, etc.
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Is it just me?
[View all] , demon, Fri 11-Dec-15 06:12 PM
Any cons to age based edgepoint accumulation?,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 06:36 AM, #41
Just eliminate Obs/Explore already.,
lasentia,
16-Dec-15 08:08 AM, #42
No,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 10:50 AM, #43
There are much better reasons to explore than obs/exp X...,
Homard,
16-Dec-15 11:35 AM, #46
The problem is those incentives don't work that well,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 12:14 PM, #47
RE: No,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 12:31 PM, #48
You will hear a buzzer. When you hear the buzzer, stare...,
Murphy,
16-Dec-15 12:45 PM, #49
RE: No,
Isildur,
16-Dec-15 01:34 PM, #51
Your reasons are totally valid as well,
Kstatida,
16-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #52
You argue that everyone should be subject to the grind ...,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 02:42 PM, #53
I argue that obs/exp is a good incentive for new player...,
Kstatida,
17-Dec-15 09:21 AM, #55
Enjoy remaining average at best,
lasentia,
17-Dec-15 07:45 AM, #54
Skill>gear>preps>skill%s>edges,
Kstatida,
17-Dec-15 09:36 AM, #56
RE: Just eliminate Obs/Explore already.,
Isildur,
16-Dec-15 11:08 AM, #44
i use that exp to rank,
laxman,
16-Dec-15 11:20 AM, #45
RE: Is it just me?,
Borkahd,
13-Dec-15 03:18 PM, #31
RE: Is it just me?,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 06:50 AM, #10
Edges,
Saagkri,
12-Dec-15 09:26 AM, #12
RE: Edges,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 09:43 AM, #13
Oops. Speaking generic IMM re: the rewards, not directe...,
Saagkri,
12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #15
Nice cover-up attempt.,
TMNS,
12-Dec-15 10:18 PM, #28
Did I miss something as to who Destuvius is? NT,
Onewingedangel,
14-Dec-15 04:30 PM, #32
No, Sam is just being Sam. (nt),
Umiron,
14-Dec-15 05:05 PM, #33
Ah, figures. ,
Onewingedangel,
14-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #34
Well...who am I supposed to be? NT,
TMNS,
15-Dec-15 12:28 AM, #37
This.,
Murphy,
12-Dec-15 10:48 AM, #17
RE: Is it just me?,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 10:33 AM, #16
Edges are one of the stupidest CF ideas ever. NT,
TMNS,
12-Dec-15 02:00 AM, #6
RE: Is it just me?,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 12:32 AM, #5
Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
-flso,
12-Dec-15 07:49 AM, #11
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 10:22 AM #14
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 12:25 PM, #18
Probably wants others to experience what he does so the...,
Lhydia,
12-Dec-15 12:56 PM, #19
Just for you...,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 01:02 PM, #20
Hey buddy..lets not bring facts into this argument. <3 ...,
Lhydia,
12-Dec-15 01:23 PM, #23
My bad..,
Destuvius,
13-Dec-15 12:15 PM, #29
RE: Probably wants others to experience what he does so...,
Umiron,
12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #22
Request and question:,
Iunna,
12-Dec-15 01:51 PM, #25
RE: Request and question:,
Umiron,
12-Dec-15 02:14 PM, #26
It's nowhere near consistent.,
Murphy,
12-Dec-15 01:05 PM, #21
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Isildur,
12-Dec-15 02:16 PM, #27
RE: Obs XP that leads to edges needs to go,
Saagkri,
16-Dec-15 01:13 PM, #50
Not keen,
incognito,
12-Dec-15 01:39 PM, #24
RE: Is it just me?,
Umiron,
11-Dec-15 07:00 PM, #1
RE: Is it just me?,
demon,
11-Dec-15 07:10 PM, #2
I'll bite,
Sertius,
11-Dec-15 09:26 PM, #3
Imo,
incognito,
12-Dec-15 03:38 AM, #7
Saying "must have",
incognito,
12-Dec-15 03:43 AM, #8
RE: I'll bite,
Destuvius,
12-Dec-15 06:43 AM, #9
My take on the Edge dilemma.,
Quixotic,
13-Dec-15 01:48 PM, #30
I think you are wrong in your assumptions,
-flso,
14-Dec-15 07:07 PM, #35
Cyradia's post introducing edges:,
Quixotic,
14-Dec-15 10:28 PM, #36
This wasn't the start of edges though...,
Elerosse,
15-Dec-15 08:45 PM, #38
This guy gets it. n/t,
Eskelian,
15-Dec-15 09:05 PM, #39
RE: I'll bite,
Eskelian,
15-Dec-15 09:07 PM, #40
What edges do you need to compete?,
laxman,
11-Dec-15 10:13 PM, #4
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