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TMNS | Mon 04-Jun-12 02:10 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
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#45627, "You're using certain assumptions to frame your argument."
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Mostly, that the players you are mercilessly mowing down with your rager are total n00bs.
I love that everyone said mages with under-powered at ranks 15-35 and ragers were so OP at those ranks, and then I played Jindicho and mercilessly raped nearly every villager (but Ohbehb and Gaplemo's rager...who I was 1-1 against) that I came across.
I will agree with the rager haters in this, ragers are WAAAAAAAAAY less work than a comparable mage/warrior that is not a rager at those levels. But as Malakhi said, the price you pay for the easiness of "call resist;deathblow;deathblow;deathblow" is that you have a very limited power threshhold that nearly every other character does not have.
PS Completely random thought about a point you made earlier. Fire Sword is not OP, but played by an elite PK'er it can be. I think that's a key distinction. I mean ####, Shapa and Jaguab made Gnome Warriors seem OP. It's not the game, it's the player my man.
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 Standards for bersekers in the village. Sorry Djetmai b...
[View all] , Abernyte, Wed 30-May-12 03:17 AM
  No worries. It's a fair question.,
Djetmai (Anonymous),
02-Jun-12 02:58 PM, #51
Berserker should be Scions.,
Scrimbul,
01-Jun-12 08:45 PM, #32
 +1 I think berserker should be earned, like maran. nt,
Artificial,
01-Jun-12 10:12 PM, #35
 Agree. But then again, I've never had a berserker - jus...,
Obaznuk,
04-Jun-12 04:28 PM, #94
So...,
Hopelessdwarf,
01-Jun-12 10:27 PM, #36
my vision of it,
Artificial,
01-Jun-12 10:54 PM, #38
This, yes.,
Scrimbul,
02-Jun-12 01:53 AM, #40
In truth, are there ever more than 3 deadly berserkers ...,
lasentia,
04-Jun-12 05:12 PM, #96
Wrong in every way.,
Graatch,
01-Jun-12 10:32 PM, #37
You bring up a couple of very good points,
lurker,
04-Jun-12 10:02 AM, #86
RE: Berserker should be Scions.,
Malakhi,
01-Jun-12 11:48 PM, #39
Yeah, see, that's the problem.,
Scrimbul,
02-Jun-12 02:16 AM, #41
RE: Yeah, see, that's the problem.,
Malakhi,
02-Jun-12 07:14 AM, #43
Using pk stats as indicators of combo strength is reall...,
robdarken_,
02-Jun-12 10:26 AM, #44
Time to play a Lohakahn style rager, Rob. nt,
Artificial,
02-Jun-12 10:43 AM, #46
RE: Using pk stats as indicators of combo strength is r...,
Malakhi,
02-Jun-12 11:19 AM, #47
RE: Using pk stats as indicators of combo strength is r...,
robdarken_,
02-Jun-12 12:10 PM, #48
RE: Using pk stats as indicators of combo strength is r...,
Malakhi,
02-Jun-12 01:22 PM, #49
I have a problem with the standards and investment,
Artificial,
02-Jun-12 03:27 PM, #52
RE: I have a problem with the standards and investment,
Graatch,
02-Jun-12 07:21 PM, #54
Yes yes, I know,
Artificial,
02-Jun-12 10:18 PM, #55
Like I said, play three and you can talk and we'll all ...,
Graatch,
02-Jun-12 10:51 PM, #56
This. n/t,
Homard,
03-Jun-12 01:37 AM, #57
No, this is stupid.,
robdarken_,
03-Jun-12 09:00 AM, #62
I don't necessarily think it needs to be 3, but... ,
Homard,
03-Jun-12 09:01 AM, #64
They're not outrageous claims.,
robdarken_,
03-Jun-12 09:23 AM, #66
A couple of things.,
Homard,
03-Jun-12 10:24 AM, #71
RE: A couple of things.,
robdarken_,
03-Jun-12 10:58 AM, #73
RE: A couple of things.,
Homard,
03-Jun-12 11:26 AM, #74
It's really very basic dude.,
Scrimbul,
03-Jun-12 03:21 PM, #80
Really..,
Tesline,
03-Jun-12 04:07 PM, #81
Under Scrimbul. nt,
Tesline,
03-Jun-12 04:07 PM, #82
I would like to chime in here...,
Puhguly,
03-Jun-12 04:43 PM, #83
But does easier make it overpowered.,
Tesline,
04-Jun-12 05:18 AM, #85
You're using certain assumptions to frame your argument...,
TMNS,
04-Jun-12 02:10 PM #93
Really?,
Tsunami,
03-Jun-12 12:07 PM, #75
Then you just,
Artificial,
03-Jun-12 12:52 PM, #78
Using Xilia as an example lost me :(,
TMNS,
04-Jun-12 02:05 PM, #92
So did Malakhi comparing Dotran to Lirad as if that mad...,
robdarken_,
04-Jun-12 04:58 PM, #95
Lemur v Pincersvirf is squeued heavily towards pincersv...,
TMNS,
05-Jun-12 02:21 PM, #97
RE: So did Malakhi comparing Dotran to Lirad as if that...,
Malakhi,
05-Jun-12 03:27 PM, #98
What is with you and non-sequiturs,
robdarken_,
05-Jun-12 10:37 PM, #99
I agree. You did not say any of that.,
Malakhi,
06-Jun-12 07:24 PM, #102
If you would, enlighten me.,
Batman (Anonymous),
06-Jun-12 05:54 PM, #100
RE: If you would, enlighten me.,
Malakhi,
06-Jun-12 07:14 PM, #101
Experience vs speculation.,
Tesline,
03-Jun-12 07:35 AM, #58
When have you played a character that kicked ass ever?,
robdarken_,
03-Jun-12 08:53 AM, #63
Strong?,
Tesline,
03-Jun-12 08:59 AM, #65
RE: Strong?,
robdarken_,
03-Jun-12 09:06 AM, #67
Fine then.,
Tesline,
03-Jun-12 09:08 AM, #68
I can't even find the name.,
robdarken_,
03-Jun-12 09:15 AM, #69
Forid never made it past 29.,
Tesline,
03-Jun-12 09:21 AM, #70
re Drawbacks,
Quixotic,
03-Jun-12 12:42 PM, #76
Wouldnt that be people's playstyles fault not villagers...,
Tesline,
03-Jun-12 12:48 PM, #77
Forid was tough. I liked that char. Sorry I made you ...,
TMNS,
04-Jun-12 02:03 PM, #91
you throw up fallacy references to blind yourself to th...,
laxman,
03-Jun-12 02:06 PM, #79
RE: I have a problem with the standards and investment,
robdarken_,
03-Jun-12 08:47 AM, #61
RE: Using pk stats as indicators of combo strength is r...,
Daevryn,
03-Jun-12 10:50 AM, #72
No matter how sound your reasoning is...,
TMNS,
04-Jun-12 02:02 PM, #90
Don't think that's a fair assessment, with declining pl...,
Vortex Magus,
02-Jun-12 06:00 AM, #42
Beront just got 422 pks. nt,
Artificial,
02-Jun-12 10:42 AM, #45
Beront is OP.,
DurNominator,
02-Jun-12 02:55 PM, #50
True, 100 PKs less than Kostyan (517) from 5 years ago.,
Vortex Magus,
02-Jun-12 05:04 PM, #53
I thought about this some more,
Daevryn,
04-Jun-12 10:22 AM, #87
This. n/t,
Graatch,
04-Jun-12 11:57 AM, #88
Especially because after you play one...,
TMNS,
04-Jun-12 01:58 PM, #89
In addition, I think he did reasonably well considering...,
Vortex Magus,
31-May-12 05:09 PM, #12
I haven't 'judged' him you wanker!,
Abernyte,
01-Jun-12 04:23 AM, #14
I really like you the player, Abernyte.,
Oldril,
01-Jun-12 07:31 PM, #28
RE: Standards for bersekers in the village. Sorry Djetm...,
Malakhi,
31-May-12 09:52 AM, #10
you make me sad,
laxman,
31-May-12 04:16 PM, #11
RE: you make me sad,
Malakhi,
31-May-12 08:31 PM, #13
+1. Dunning-Kruger ftw. nt,
Artificial,
01-Jun-12 04:36 AM, #17
Can you explain how this effect fits in here?,
Homard,
01-Jun-12 08:20 AM, #19
I would have assumed that the bottom third was around 1...,
laxman,
01-Jun-12 08:30 AM, #20
I'm actually kinda shocked as well.,
Homard,
01-Jun-12 09:20 AM, #21
arty may be a victim of the dunning-krueger affect,
laxman,
01-Jun-12 10:35 AM, #22
RE: Can you explain how this effect fits in here?,
Artificial,
01-Jun-12 03:02 PM, #25
Does not apply in this case.,
Homard,
01-Jun-12 04:22 PM, #26
My originally saying it,
Artificial,
01-Jun-12 10:11 PM, #34
When I was commander...,
TMNS,
01-Jun-12 11:08 AM, #23
Followup question to Battle Imms,
DurNominator,
31-May-12 03:15 AM, #5
The answer is No,
laxman,
31-May-12 06:49 AM, #6
It's sort of silly to think PK skill matters,
lasentia,
31-May-12 06:55 AM, #7
RE: It's sort of silly to think PK skill matters,
Daevryn,
31-May-12 08:09 AM, #8
It's just too tough a thing to measure.,
lasentia,
31-May-12 09:23 AM, #9
Aargh! I hate this!,
Abernyte,
01-Jun-12 04:32 AM, #16
I'll say I'm sorry- really just trying to raise discuss...,
lasentia,
01-Jun-12 07:51 AM, #18
RE: It's sort of silly to think PK skill matters,
Iunna,
03-Jun-12 07:59 AM, #59
Can I be clear - I am not complaining about Djetmai!!,
Abernyte,
01-Jun-12 04:27 AM, #15
RE: Followup question to Battle Imms,
Iunna,
03-Jun-12 08:21 AM, #60
RE: Followup question to Battle Imms,
Yean ,
03-Jun-12 09:31 PM, #84
You can't use...,
Homard,
30-May-12 09:13 AM, #4
Djetmai's PK Statistics,
Shaapa (Anonymous),
30-May-12 07:28 AM, #2
One factor...,
old_timer,
30-May-12 05:16 AM, #1
RE: One factor...,
Daevryn,
30-May-12 07:31 AM, #3
Tangent:,
Daevryn,
01-Jun-12 02:42 PM, #24
RE: Tangent:,
Oldril,
01-Jun-12 07:28 PM, #27
RE: Tangent:,
Rayihn,
01-Jun-12 07:45 PM, #29
Boo! n/t,
Homard (NOT Scrotar),
01-Jun-12 07:56 PM, #30
That's hysterical. n/t,
Homard,
01-Jun-12 07:57 PM, #31
RE: Tangent:,
Daevryn,
01-Jun-12 09:28 PM, #33
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