Braemir | Fri 28-Sep-07 08:00 PM |
Member since 27th Sep 2007
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#62245, "RE: Role and Alignment, my view on it. txt"
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>>>If a duergar makes a role that he wants to become a paladin would that not make it legitimate to ignore his alignment based on his role?<<<
The duergar would need to play that alignment he seeks to become. However, moving from his natural Evil state because of his race will have drawbacks. Losing specializations, etc. He wouldn't be ignoring his alignment, but betraying (or redemming) his typical racial's nature will have dire consquences.
>>>Should all the maran be turned evil because they like to kill neutrals and evils alike ?<<<
You haven't played a Maran I take it. Part of the thing with Marans is warding against bloodlust and becoming that which they fight. Hence one of the jobs of an Acolyte. To ensure the Marans do not become lost to the shadow. If a Maran did act this way IC, then they would certainly find themselves hunted by other Marans.
>>>Should a neutral warrior be turned good for killing evils ?<<<
It takes more then that to become good. Good isn't always about what you fight, but why. How you act, and carry yourself. Good is the hard route, where evil is the easy route. Its about morals. While some might argue that good and evil is not just black and white, that there is a lot of grey, there is also a lot that isn't.
>>>Should a evil be turned good for only killing evils ?<<<
Why? What motivates him to do this? Does he take joy in slaughtering those weaker then them, prefering to pray on the wicked instead of the righteous? Its all about motivation, and then the excuting of such motivations.
>>>Gataliff without the infection, role wise, was actually more good than neutral. All she did was run from fights and help people with her prayers. One of her lust's was that she liked to watch combat, but not participate. That lust was so that she actually interacted with the player base instead of avoiding it. A healer that hates fighting and avoid it at all costs is a character that has nothing to do with the game and gets bored very very quickly. <<<
So you say. But why did you do this? Its one thing to help another with your healing abilities because it is right, and another to do it for more personal selfish reasons. To prolong combat? To see that a fight continues on? That does not sound like a good action, but not really an evil one either. More of a self-interest.
>>>So on one side you have a gnome that leans heavily towards good, very heavily. On the other side you have the blood of a demon-god. The god of annihilation and destruction.<<<
I have not read where you lean heavily towards good, nor in my encounters did you ever convey that. You seemed like a gnome who had a dark spirit controlling you. You seemed very neutral with an evil counterpart to me.
>>>The hand, the infection, that was the aggressive side of gataliff never cared for alignment or ethos or anything really. As long as you brought destruction to the realm in any form it was happy with that. Goods killing evils was just as good as evils killing goods. Hunting evils was just as good as hunting goods. I think my pk's, the few I have will display that.<<<
Sounds like an evil motivation to me.
>>>The few times I grouped up with people was when the odds were against them, 1 vs 3, I would make it 2 vs 3. Two clear cased come to mind, both grouped with evil. The first I and said person were ripped apart by the group of goodies. The second time I and second person managed to kill 1 as the rest ran away. I rped pleasure under both circumstances annihilation and destruction had come. Even if I was the one being destroyed.<<<
At first you could be precived as being neutral, and looking to make things fair and balanced. However later in this paragraph your motivation certainly shows a more dark reason. One that is evil.
>>>>The player base has more evils and neutrals and this made it harder if anything to killing more goods as the hand. But I never choose a side. Anyone who wanted my prayers for a pk or a raid or a uneven fight had them. Regardless of alignment or cabal. The only aspect role wise and action wise that I was doing that leaned me towards evil was that the hand, the infection, was the blood of a DEMON-god. Evil in substance. I really do hope that was the main factor for turning me evil. I would be vastly disappointed if I was turned evil because I grouped with a few evils, or killed a few goods<<<
No, pretty much your actions and motivations turned you evil from all that I have read that you have provided. And judging by our conversations, when the "hand" had control, it was evil, and the gnome, just a lost little girl needing help.
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(DELETED) [None] Gataliff the Priestess of Renewal, Dis...
[View all] , Death_Angel, Thu 27-Sep-07 12:16 AM
If someone is nice, pbf me? n/t,
gataliff (Guest),
14-Oct-07 10:28 PM, #57
RE: (DELETED) [None] Gataliff the Priestess of Renewal,...,
A goodie (Guest),
30-Sep-07 02:51 AM, #52
Also on top of this...,
Vlad (Guest),
30-Sep-07 06:04 PM, #55
Cabals , items, edges, sterotypes.,
Gataliff (Guest),
29-Sep-07 06:18 PM, #50
RE: Cabals , items, edges, sterotypes.,
Braemir,
29-Sep-07 09:31 PM, #51
To the people of Carrionfields.,
Gataliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 08:38 PM, #24
What the hell man.,
Thuul (Guest),
27-Sep-07 11:01 PM, #31
I am glad I put you on edge. stxt.,
Gataliff (Guest),
28-Sep-07 07:04 PM, #37
Yeah, that's good entropy.,
Pro-man (Guest),
30-Sep-07 05:21 PM, #54
Gataliffs weird last death,
The Necro (Guest),
28-Sep-07 01:30 AM, #33
I am indeed sorry. stxt,
Gataliff (Guest),
28-Sep-07 07:14 PM, #38
RE: I am indeed sorry. stxt,
The Necro (Guest),
29-Sep-07 12:45 AM, #44
My thoughts on your character,
Braemir,
28-Sep-07 08:29 PM, #42
I always like to know my failings, thanks! nt.,
Gataliff (Guest),
29-Sep-07 03:41 AM, #45
RE: To the people of Carrionfields.,
Victoria2 (Guest),
29-Sep-07 02:22 PM, #48
The Unholy weapons,
Gataliff (Guest),
29-Sep-07 05:07 PM, #49
RE: (DELETED) [None] Gataliff the Priestess of Renewal,...,
Gataliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 01:12 AM, #1
Very, cool character.,
Cointreau,
27-Sep-07 05:59 AM, #2
Australia, stxt,
Gataliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 07:54 AM, #3
What's your AIM?,
Cointreau,
27-Sep-07 08:44 PM, #26
RE: What's your AIM?,
Gataliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 09:21 PM, #27
You'll be missed,
Durzan (Guest),
27-Sep-07 08:59 AM, #4
The balance of the scales.,
Gataliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 07:22 PM, #17
RE: (DELETED) [None] Gataliff the Priestess of Renewal,...,
ORB,
27-Sep-07 11:08 AM, #5
If you think this then I doubt you have interacted with...,
Vladamir,
27-Sep-07 01:18 PM, #7
RE: If you think this then I doubt you have interacted ...,
ORB,
27-Sep-07 02:38 PM, #9
RE: If you think this then I doubt you have interacted ...,
Gatliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 07:36 PM, #19
I don't think that's fair, but:,
Daevryn,
27-Sep-07 04:11 PM, #14
In defense of Cryadia.,
Gataliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 07:14 PM, #15
I'm going to offer some hopefully helpful comments,,
Vladamir,
27-Sep-07 01:14 PM, #6
He did win the role contest. And was excellenty rolepla...,
CraftedD (Guest),
27-Sep-07 02:34 PM, #8
I didn't dispute any of that.,
Vladamir,
27-Sep-07 03:01 PM, #10
Why award him full empowerment with the role than? nt,
CraftedD (Guest),
27-Sep-07 03:11 PM, #11
Vlad nailed this one.,
Lyristeon,
27-Sep-07 03:42 PM, #12
Because you 'thought' thats what he wanted?,
CraftedD (Guest),
27-Sep-07 04:03 PM, #13
RE: Because you 'thought' thats what he wanted?,
Lyristeon,
27-Sep-07 07:18 PM, #16
RE: Because you 'thought' thats what he wanted?,
Gataliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 07:33 PM, #18
RE: Because you 'thought' thats what he wanted?,
Lyristeon,
27-Sep-07 07:42 PM, #20
Maybe you only watched the hours he was.. uh being a zu...,
CraftedD (Guest),
27-Sep-07 07:58 PM, #21
RE: Maybe you only watched the hours he was.. uh being ...,
Lyristeon,
27-Sep-07 08:14 PM, #23
Thats kind of a one sided and psuedo arguement,
Guy (Guest),
27-Sep-07 08:44 PM, #25
To be perfectly fair to Lyristeon...,
Vlad (Guest),
27-Sep-07 09:25 PM, #28
I also didn't get this from your role/RP FWIW (n/t),
Daevryn,
27-Sep-07 08:01 PM, #22
RE: I also didn't get this from your role/RP FWIW (n/t),
Gataliff (Guest),
27-Sep-07 09:34 PM, #29
RE: Because you 'thought' thats what he wanted?,
Braemir,
27-Sep-07 10:18 PM, #30
RE: Because you 'thought' thats what he wanted?,
Lyristeon,
28-Sep-07 12:11 AM, #32
The beef is.. Gataiff was not your character,
CraftedD (Guest),
28-Sep-07 09:21 AM, #35
RE: The beef is.. Gataiff was not your character,
Lyristeon,
28-Sep-07 09:48 AM, #36
My shinning star. Some bards are useless. txt,
Gataliff (Guest),
28-Sep-07 07:53 PM, #40
>role is no excuse to ignore alignment. Hahahaaaa lol!...,
Enbuergo1,
28-Sep-07 07:57 AM, #34
Role and Alignment, my view on it. txt,
Gataliff (Guest),
28-Sep-07 07:36 PM, #39
RE: Role and Alignment, my view on it. txt,
Braemir,
28-Sep-07 08:00 PM #41
Your comments, stxt,
Gataliff (Guest),
29-Sep-07 03:53 AM, #47
I don't think you understand the alignment system at al...,
Daevryn,
28-Sep-07 11:01 PM, #43
None taken, I am interested in your description however...,
Gataliff (Guest),
29-Sep-07 03:47 AM, #46
RE: None taken, I am interested in your description how...,
Whitehat (Guest),
30-Sep-07 04:19 AM, #53
Serious? txt,
gataliff (Guest),
03-Oct-07 10:34 PM, #56
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