Thu Jul 18 14:06:57 2013

At 12 o'clock AM, Day of Deception, 23rd of the Month of the Dark Shades
on the Theran calendar Kraldinor perished, never to return.

I was unsure of whether to join the Empire, but
I found you very considerate as a player, thank you for that.

The beauty of a game like Carrion Fields is that it is both unpredictable story
and PvP. Who would have thought that the Empire could have been based on
love for such a long time. Incredible to stick with a character for so long and
it must be a hard act to follow. Good luck with it, though.

Just kinda worked out that way. Was good to have another divine around. Good luck.

Obviously we don't agree on some aspects of ethos and alignment but I thought Kraldinor was good for CF and I respected you for that. GLWYN.

and was hoping you would stick it out. Since you didn't I hope you have found something else that you are having fun with.

Having been both for and against you, I have to say you were hella fun.

Nt

I <3'ed kraldinor.

Even with the brief war between tribunal and the empire, it was always fun.

Especially before Jebarral When Empire didn't have anyone who could bash for ####. Some of my more memorable kills were w you notably ganking ohsui (only time I was part of getting him other than causing bad teleports and such), Ierlaine in Balator, and getting Irelorn when he had my number for so long.

From what I saw, you did a pretty good job and I really enjoyed the
help retrieving and raiding early on. Judging by all the replies here,
I'm in the overwhelming majority for this opinion.

I can say that I really thought you took things a little far by
declaring war after I wrote a letter to all for your ex-dread lord but
it was still a very good experience. I felt a lot of support, no
matter what the outcome was.

Anyway, I hope to see you in the Fields again sometime soon.

But overall I thought it was a good experience for all involved (except maybe Zorl) and what I considered a higlight of Kraldinor's time, especially after the first war fizzled. My favorite part was watching the Nexans trying to figure out what to do.

I enjoyed running around w you the rest of the time.

I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.
I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.

Nt

I have no clue.

Rage deleted after dieing to Noviask.

I hated that person. SO MUCH. Why did you let him be an asshole to his elders cause he said.


Lo. wherily wherily..

Going to master my skills and spells to solo gain souls.

Lo whirly whirly

He rped a #### with leet knowledge, nothing much more. Not that I didnt do much better in rping. I think not remember.

Your chars were all very interesting.

I'm crashing out, hope your therapy goes well tomorrow.

I am going to think up a plausible character for a mild return to cf.
Something that doesnt require in game rewards to have fun, nor gear to be valid. While I was away after my stupid bitternes of the global lastname perma. I installed gw2. Well, I found out if you are not having fun playing something, do something else. I think I've just as many horus logged into this fantastic game t han anyone else. I bet I'm in the top ten for people playing this game hours length. Afk hours and botting are not valid imho. Thanks for posting.

Not so tired today, they took me out of the wheel chair. What is screwing me up is that I am quitting ciggarrettes and my train of thought is not so great. I feel like a third grader in need of mudsec. Geezus. Im thirty three in a month and I've been cfing since middle school.

I am going on a hiatus for a bit myself, but will be back at some point.

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Someone erase my hijacking please

I thought you were a great Emperor, coming from someone with less experience in the game. You were easy to get along with, helpful and enjoyed doing as you ordered!
I was hoping to get my fire giant up into hero range quicker so I could fight along side you, but in the end work commitments meant my playing times got drastically reduced.
I fought you with Ferus a few times, felar assassin in FORT and thought you were pretty cool then, one of the reasons I rolled my giant aswell as getting kinda bored with playing goodie. I find evils easier to learn the game with since you can kill anything .

Anyway, good luck with your next

Enjoyed both chars. Martok looked pretty promising (and still does) and was one I was definitely watching. It seemed like everytime I gave someone armageddon, I quit seeing them though. I hope you make it back to him.

But I’m over that now and decided to give it another shot.

Before you read further standard disclaimer of I played this Character way too long to remember any mortals (Is Noviask still Dread Lord?), so post and I’ll respond (if appropriate). If you don’t really care what I have to say and are just checking to see what I said about you (what I usually do with farewell posts) you can go ahead and stop.

Anyway, I started playing again around early 2010 and had really only played outlanders and orcs since my return. After having 6 chars in outlander last year and two leaders in the previous three years, I finally decided I needed to do something else, so I decided to play another orc.

I started playing my orc seriously around the time Krunk died with the intent of grabbing chief, but I had a really hard time ranking, and some brutal deaths. After one particularly brutal death, I decided I wanted to play something more durable, and rolled up Kraldinor in early December. Enlilth had just gone dormant, so I intended to go with Dacagais, but I decided his play times would not mesh with mine. My last empowerment character was a Jasthrean Druid I made right around the time he went dormant (Kraldinok) so I wanted to pick an Imm I was pretty sure I could catch. I thought I could make another Rayihn Evil work, so I threw together a hasty concept (I meant for the char to be something like an evil Dr. Phil).

I wasn’t seeing Ray around (was seeing Baer, but at that point I wasn’t interested enough in the char to note), so I lost interest and went back to my orc. Holidays rolled around and I got back to trying to rank my orc after. After a mob death solo ranking in Spirits, I saw Ray on, so decided I would swing by with my shaman to say hello.

After my Empowerment interview, I left thinking that the whole concept didn’t make much sense. I quit off, went back to my orc, but then Uhrung logged on and grabbed chief, which just felt like kick in the head after all the difficulties my orc had been having. I decided since I did have initial Empowerment, and I had not played a Shaman in forever, I would give the Kraldinor a go. I guess it turned out ok.

The first few hundred hours were a lot of fun. I got oathed and was promoted pretty quickly. It felt like Empire could use some help which encouraged me to stick with it even more. Empire was kinda new to me again, but also kinda felt like coming home as well since it was the cabal I usually played way back whenever. I was enjoying learning the Cabal Dynamics as they exist now and it felt like Empire was on a bit of an upswing and I was in on the ground floor . The sect leaders were around a decent bit as everyone was jockeying to become the next Emperor. I was a bit annoyed I was on the outside looking in for that, but I knew there was a High Priest when I rolled Kraldinor, and Kraldinor was never meant to be self-serving anyway.

The next 250-300ish hours were probably the most frustrating I have had playing this game, although largely because in similar situations before I would have just deleted. In this case though, I just really would not have felt good about being another rat fleeing a sinking ship, and didn’t really have anything else I really wanted to do at the time anyway. After Duraskandr became Emperor, it seemed like after a brief (less than a week) dominant period, everyone disappeared. Once Xiersel deleted, I felt pretty much alone at hero for a very long time. I apologize to anyone I lashed out at during this time, but at least I gave you something to do.

Then all of a sudden I was Emperor. The sun was shining and birds were singing. Empire numbers were already picking up a bit before I got Emperor and seemed to get a little more of a boost from filling the council. All the powerhouses in Fort and Outlander died off and I won CF.

I’d say the two biggest things I am proudest of with this character is making it to age death without a con quest (I con killed a druid in 168 hours last year, and this is only my second character to break 300 hours) and having sect leaders that didn’t feel like they were someone’s alt character.

A few immortal thank yous:

Rayihn: Thanks for everything. You seemed pretty chilly on me early on, but somewhere around the 350 hour mark I think you decided I had been around long enough I must know something (plus it really sucked to be Kraldinor around that time, and everyone more interesting than me had died). You are a lot of fun to interact with unlike, as you put it, that stuffy elf. Best analogy I can come up with for you is that you are the boss that everyone who works for loves, but everyone in the other sections hates because your employees get to go home early and have pot lucks at work and such (I actually personally hate pot lucks) while everyone else is stuck at work until 8:00 every night because they spend half their day bitching about how much their job and their boss suck.

Some people may say I did a good job playing an Empire Ray follower, but I kinda think my first notion of it didn’t make a whole lot of sense was probably right, but thanks for helping me muddle through it.

Amaranthe: Thanks for the fun interactions and the edges. I’ve never been given edges from imms before, so it was pretty nice if not overly useful (quest form yes, edges no).

Enlilth and Dacagais: Thanks for not anathemaing me and just letting me go with it. If (when) I play Empire again, I’ll try to do something truer to cabal ideals (I actually have 4 Empire builds I want to try whenever I get around to them).

Was Kraldinor evil? Well he really liked killing Paladins (irrational player bias that lingers from playing a duergar when neo-paladins came out) Fortress, and Elves ( I don’t mind dwarves and storm giants so much, Lothrinus is the only elf I’ve ever liked). So some people would consider that evil behavior.

Was Kraldinor’s player skilled? My self assessment is I am solidly in the average to slightly above category now.

Do Shaman suck at hero? You have some things that will work, and some that won’t. If the last time you fought someone you tried a commune 8 times and it never landed, chances are it won’t in the next fight either. Just use what works and hope it works out.

My parting thought is I think the game is better when Empire is strong whether you are in the cabal or fighting it, although I’ve avoided the cabal for 13ish years I guess (donations weren’t as bad as I thought, and I am kinda over my shifter phase now). I think the whole story line of CF works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.

Zruulg/Vonzamir
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>My parting thought is I think the game is better when Empire
>is strong whether you are in the cabal or fighting it,
>although I’ve avoided the cabal for 13ish years I guess
> donations weren’t as bad as I thought, and I am kinda over
>my shifter phase now). I think the whole story line of CF
>works better if the forces of light and freedom or whatever
>are striving to overcome adversity instead of just a bunch of
>paladin’s or whatever running around trying to wrath down
>the lone orc hoping THEY can get the killing blow.

Can't agree more with this. I rolled Fortress because it looked like it was sinking and it's no fun when it is overpowered. It ended up recovering a bit, but I'm glad I never found myself with overwhelming odds vs. you. At least very rarely, if at all.

As Ekaerok, I had serious respect that you would actually show up to raid and retrieve when you were high priest and largely alone without fail.

As a player, before I really had steam going and after a few of the funniest tells you almost made me delete just to roll an imperial. If I hadn't already grown feathers into a unique character I likely would have.

I know our battles largely boiled down to gangs and rots eventually, but the fights between all that were quite fun.

I wanted Jawn to live longer so I didn't have to face you with insects.

I consider the one time I killed you and the two times I got Tolgrumm solo as my signature kills with this Kraldinor. I had my frustrations with Ekaerok, but you were a great presence for Daytime tree and once you imm'd I can say I missed having you to fight. Good luck with hero immhood.

Hey "Bro".

You were always fun to hang around with, beat up on, and otherwise be a pain in the butt to.

The only times I really died to any folks in empire is when you were around to dispel me. God I hate getting fly/protection/sanct/protectiveshield/bless/prayer/sun/detects/passdoor and everything else with 100+ spellsave. BUT you made it a challenge for sure.

I always tried to RP the 'better' older brother to you, even attempted to 'guide' you when we were in our 20's and 30's together. Was good times for sure.

I really admired how you stuck it out when Oshui, Filndar, Tolgrumm, and STSF/Dagger Elf Warrior # 2737 stabbing you in the face.

You had a really cool spin on Ray's religion, and I secretly loved how you made all of empire a Rayihn Only Zone - hysterical.

Can't wait to read your role, I hope you had a great time and I'm looking forward to your next!

It was defintely a love/hate with you, but I enjoyed Rydell overall. The lastname was supposed to be a bit of a joke I don't think I ever really figured out how to finish.

Another gutsy imperial gone. You had a tendency to show up at the Fortress against any odds. It was a real struggle trying to fight you in a way that let me last long enough to fight you off and be able to recover before you come back. Often it didnt work my way.

But I shall try to enjoy the brief time of less black circles and a summoning Emperor shaman at the Fortress gates. Probably will end up missing "the good ol' days".

GLWYN

You were tough and everytime I saw you I kicked myself for being out of black moss. I don't think I ever killed you?

Dont think there were any deaths in our one-on-ones. But you did cause my death a few times I think together with others. Whip spec + shaman. Good fun.

The last (only?) conversation you and I had I thought would have been a great start to some kind of relationship. I didn't know you were quite this close to death, though you did insinuate it wasn't far off.

Regardless, good job from what I saw with two characters, both opposing. Hope your next is fun, whatever you do.

I shouldn't have withered in that fight to keep it going. GL!

I know we went over most of this in my death thread, but I have to give you a lot of props for sticking it out and being a great nemesis. My favorite kills were the ones where you went down too, though I'm counting that one time with Rydell at Kiadana-Rah, because that was probably a 15-minute IRL fight.

My only criticism, if I may offer it, was that I got a human-in-a-fire-giant suit feel from your speech. That's of course without seeing your role to know if it was appropriate, and a small critique nonetheless.

PBF on me.

- Tolgrumm

Saves me explaining why I am sending money to a free game I deny playing.

The speech bit was intentional and explained but also just a change up from playing so many ugh outlanders and orcs.

I will say life felt pretty anti-climatic after Tolgrumm. I spent a lot of time gambling in the inn.

I very strongly hoped you would become Emperor. You had your good and bad days, but you didn't let your bad days get to you like some other priests did, I won't name names here

I hope you fixed whatever problems you had with your internet connection. You ate a few really bad deaths due to that iirc.

Hell of a good job, and good luck with your next one.

My connection varied from where I played. My best times where on public computers from the link on officials. My worst were off of Mosha. My laptop is on its last legs so got me killed more than once.

I still mentioned Kurbrawn from time to time.

Was wanting to ask, was Salarucid from a few years back you?

Cid was a char I really did not want to delete, but I wasn't going to have any time to play so I had to give up the Harbinger position quickly so it could be replaced quickly. Outlander really needs a Harbinger that's active, they're sort of the glue of the cabal, especially when there's inter-cabal dramapolitics goings ons.

My favorite Emperor by far. Really enjoyed running with you especialy early on when there were some enemies at least. But man did it feel like we burned down everything recently. So maybe your age death will result in some refreshing in my login times. Again awesome char and GLWYN

I always told people if Empire had a decent warrior we could burn the Fort down, so thanks for making me look smart.

I definitely felt the stagnation lately, so I think Kraldinor phasing outshould make things more interesting.

Thanks for making the last part of Kraldinor's life a dominating success.

My favorite Imperial to come down the pike in a long, long time.

I think you nailed everything about it, even though fighting you as a guy with single-digit con meant I had to sit in the woods as a bear for a long time.

Always classy, and I can already tell that you've had a bit of a positive effect on the current crop of Imperials.

Well done.

Jawn seemed ageless. I think I intereacted with you w 6 chars,including two that I con died in outlander and this one.

I loved interacting w you from both sides. Guess I should play a villager one of these days.

sff its 11pm and I have therapy in the monring

I interacted a little with this character and enjoyed those interactions. Interesting take on things.

nt

If you had stuck around I would have put money on Magroi for Emperor.

A great presence for the Empire and a great brother for Etion. My only regret is that our times didn't mesh at all. Thank you for letting me be a part of Kraldinors story and for being a part of Etion's.

Thanks. I look fwd to hearing how your story turns out.

I liked Kraldinor and I hated Kraldinor. I really didn't see you as evil, I was that guy complaining about my boss (Zulg was my sphere/god and he left CF) and the Empire I had known was becoming a freaking sideshow fest of alliances and hippy-style love... and damn did we butt heads. I wish sometimes I could have stuck it out but I knew how that would end up with me having no Immortal rep and you having Ray back you.

And seriously, Dacagais just making you Emperor with no vote? Then when I bring up the fact you've taken the Empire down the crapper he says if I try to talk to him again he'll kill me? Dacagais if you're reading this, you're a horrible influence on the Empire - the fact that you never involved yourself at all in anything Empire, and then don't even interact at all when called upon... not sure what reasoning you want to give but "bleh" is the best I can think of. At least have a conversation if someone sends you a note.

Anyways, rant over.... you did good Kraldinor - just sad you had to be my enemy.

-Noviask

Was actually surprised more was not made of how I got Emperor, but there were only two on the council at that time, so we vote for each other and imms pick anyway. Forms weren't observed, but I don't think anyone can say I didn't deserve it or that it didn't make Empire relevant again.

Anyway, it broke my heart to anathema Noviask, but you backed me into a corner.

That D-guy was still Emperor, so he gets a vote also... or I could be wrong on how it all works, only been in a vote once. You could say you being Emperor changed a lot but I think it was kind of a duo effect of us both that we actually stuck it out when everyone else was a fair-weather login and that the pendulum was swinging again already.

And I may have brought it to the front, but you put me into a corner... it was pretty obvious you had other reasons for doing it (I was shaking your seat on the Throne) and you realized the mistake you had made after the fact - Jebaral wasn't even punished and he's the guy who killed Bharhum. You can say I forced it by slamming your god, but you demoted your strongest member of the Empire because I didn't drink your kool-aid of love because I saw you destroying the Empire.... I couldn't sit by anymore.

And seriously, you backed Merf! What in gods name were you thinking He has to be an ooc friend of yours...

Oh well, wish it went differently. We could have done some crazy stuff.

Jebarral did get punished. I made Pertonoti War Master when I had planned to promote Jebarral. I'll post more on the rest later.

Always wondered if you had sat there for a bit because you wanted to die... or if it was just your crappy internet connection (seriously, you must play from Russia or Mt Everest, I've never seen someone with that bad of connection issues).

Noviask
Krunk
Xiersel
Duraskandr

I'd wager Madoc and Eidiol together had at least as many hero range kills as Noviask (fifty or more, I think you already had ice control before you went into hero range and deleted just short of acid), greater presence, and contributed far more in ways not directly related to body count (In fact Kraldinor decided A-P's were a support class) so don't give yourself too much credit. I was always saying behind your back that you were a better killer but I was a better Dreadlord in every other way. Anyway, it seemed to me that Kraldinor was more pissed that a the fight with had happened than the details of who got the killing blow, and I think he realised he wasn't going to lose his throne to you he was still alive. I helped you after you became anathema because I was in awe of your talents as an A-P rather than any fear of dying or losing my weapon, I don't think you'd have made my life any harder in that regard. Madoc would have gone anathema with you and backed you all the way, but Eidiol bought into the lotus thing to a greater extent and couldn't throw in 100% since that was a main part of Noviask's angle. Merf I think got extra points in consideration for Dreadlord because he was a fire giant and Kraldinor was partial to other giants.

nt

If memory serves me, Duraskandr was demoted because the player was devoting the vast majority of their play time to other character(s). At that point, there wasn't much of a council left (he deleted). I want to say with him gone, it was done to one. Empire numbers weren't very good and there weren't many promising up-and-comers. So instead of waiting to fill the council and hold a vote, I made an executive order and went with who I identified as the only person even close to deserving.

If it makes you feel better, unbeknownst to me, I wasn't supposed to do that and as such, it's unlikely to happen again. In hindsight, I'm still happy with the outcome as I feel Kraldinor was a very positive thing for Empire.

As for Noviask... I wasn't paying much attention to CF at the time. When I saw your note I initially ignored it because Dacagais didn't really give two poops about some guy who managed to get himself Anathema'd and wasn't happy about it. A few days later, another Immortal informed me you had prayed seeking some closure on the matter and I felt like the closure Dacagais provided was appropriate. If I bent your fun stick, I'm sorry and I hope it heals.

Toodles.

>As for Noviask... I wasn't paying much attention to CF at the
>time.

The Empire had alliances with almost all cabals and even its direct enemies including Scions, the Village and even starting with the Fortress. Everyone was required to praise Rayihn every login and the council was only members with the Lotus tattoo (or at least attempting for one). Empire as basically everything its not supposed to be.

Had you been paying attention, none of this should have happened... and honestly, at least have a conversation. Telling me in a reply, after multiple emails/prays that "if you contact me again, I'll kill you" is pretty lame.

And never accepted anyway. There was never A Scion treaty, just a de-prioritization. Lotus council was never a goal of mine. Part of Empire is do what the Emperor requires, even if its stupid.

Bharhum was more important to Kraldinor than you at the point I anathema'd you because he could bash and you couldn't.

I liked Noviask. But he was a lot of drama, and I eventuaLly I had enough.

Having played several Empire characters since you became essentially the cabal's sole imm presence, making Krald Emperor was literally the only thing I ever saw from you (I was the guy you made Elite at the same time). My following Empire character basically treated Rayihn as an imm because you just weren't there.

Noviask wasn't "some guy who managed to get himself anathema'd" and I'd imagine the patron imm of Empire should have given two ####s. Writing a delayed '#### off' because someone pointed out that you should maybe spend one single minute paying attention to your cabal was perfectly pointless (could't even take the five minutes to interact with him) and from an IC perspective it would honestly be better if you weren't there at all so at least it would be lore that the Empire doesn't have a patron imm.

Sorry but it needed to be said, you come over like you couldn't give two ####s about the game or the cabal at all.

Torak demands attention. Wrongfully so. He clawed for his anathema without thinking he was doing anything worthy of being an anathema.

I think Noviask made a strong case for himself, not strong enough to oust Kraldinor but worthy of acknowledgement. I was on the council while he was anathema and while my loyalty to Kraldinor was stronger I still didn't turn on Noviask, and many other Imperials were the same. It's an instance of "not paying attention to CF". I don't know what else Dacagais does for CF but as the patron of Empire he barely gets involved.

Everyone is going to handle things differently. I side with Dac here personally. I watched the exchange that got Noviask anathamed and it was well deserved. No Empire imm is going to step in the way Noviask was demanding (and I do mean demanding, he doesn't ask nice for things). He basically said "An Empire imm needs to make me Emperor for what I did." That just doesn't happen.

> He basically said "An Empire imm needs to make me Emperor for what I did." That just doesn't happen.

But isnt that how Kraldinor JUST got Emperor?

Though I don't know if that makes my situation better or worse. Although I was trying to do an end around and going straight to Imms to get Gedunthos and Noviask raised to the council.

Duraskandr promoted Gedunthos shortly before he was demoted, but I think he was looking at Madoc for Dread Lord.

Really everything you need to know about playing Empire you can learn from watching too much Survivor. The biggest physical threat basically never wins Survivor -- he's kept around for a while to win challenges but tends to get ganged up on midseason.

Noviask was essentially that guy -- probably the toughest guy in Empire at the time, but terrible at politics. That's not a combination that usually gets you made Emperor. (Although toughest guy + passable at politics often has.)

Eidiol's role goes into further detail but it was no accident that he came out of the same incident that led to Noviask's anathema looking like a model citizen to both Bharhum and Kraldinor. Torak probably still hasn't caught on.

Anyway looking back over my previous message it was probably overly hostile, but I do mean to support the complaint that Dacagais has been inactive and immortal oversight of the cabal has been lacking.

It wasn't lost on me you were the one who let everyone know where they were so kinda created the situation. I also reviewed the note I had put out about tribs and Bharhum (not sure if he was back in at that point) and it's terms were not violated.

However, I wanted to placate Bharhum, as one of my more reliable hunting partners at that time, and held Noviask responsible regardless since he was the only leader around at the time. If I had it to do over, I would have likely handled it differently, but Noviask logged on while I was stiLl fuming about him a bit.

>If memory serves me, Duraskandr was demoted because the
>player was devoting the vast majority of their play time to
>other character(s).

Emperor playing alts instead of his main. Gets demoted, new Emporer, check.

>As for Noviask... I wasn't paying much attention to CF at the
>time.

Imm playing alt (or not playing or whatever), doesn't bother to check on facts before acting or get information for follow-up... Umm... Check?

If you are going to hold mortals to a standard (play your Leader char or we remove you from having one) then Immortals should damn well be held to at least that same standard.

Empire has just kinda been on auto pilot for a while imm wise. Dacagais stepped in a few times when Empire seemed to be in a Spiral however. It thought Noviask, while a good character, involved a lot a Drama. It is possible the imms thought the same and just didn't feel like dealing with it.

Specifically I'm not talking about your char, or torak's, or even the old Emperor. I never dealt with any of those chars and couldn't care less. I just want the Imms to hold themselves to the standard they are holding cabal Leader positions to. We are all volunteers in this case.

Its not mechanics fest. When I was the antipaladin in empire and you where like. I got the go ahead to not do ####e for the empire cause I told the emperor what I am going to do when I am older. Whatever knowledge that you rped blah blah. Do something fun. I guess you have fun however, thats why we play. Gg.

I didn't know much about the religious side of Kraldinor's life, but despite the fact that your ascension to the Throne wasn't quite ordinary, I'm very happy with the result.

You did a fantastic job as a cabal leader and that's what I was hoping for.

GLWYN, as they say.

nt

I have a lot to say but ill save it until I join you on the other side. I was very happy to see you resurrect empire from its ashes.

nt

GLWYN

I appreciate the lack of rot-fest 2013 except when it was mass groups. All the rest... I'll post soon enough when I'm dead like Rover, all over.

Kudos on sticking it out when Fort kinda fell off. To me, you and Aster pretty much were the Fort for a pretty long period there.

The last interaction however could've gotten some pretty wierd consequences.

Great character, great RPed and a lot of fun PKing with.

We sure did have some loooong fights. That last one we had for over an hour! So slow! Ooh man did I trouble fighting you, I Went through mana like a crazy person. I spent around 150 gold that fight healing mana. Dispel is a bitch.

I hope to see you soon again, and I look forward to it.

Don't think my interest wasn't piqued! I didn't have enough time left at that point to go anywhere with it though.

We didn't get to interact much.
Was mostly me helping with what I could during
you raiding. But was fun.

Age dying a leader is something you don't see
every day big props

GLWN

Nt

Empire just didn't suit me very well, and throw in that I really didn't want to play another bard, but I had been asked to do one just to help that cabal counter the massive fort presence at the time. Once things looked a bit more even, I didn't want to be a further part of helping a cabal I was seeing things I didn't agree with as a player though, and so I deleted.

I would have enjoyed running around with you as emperor though, Xiersel always had a soft spot for the divine sect members, I think largely because you were the ones I most often saw. Maybe I screwed myself when I prevented Durskander from deleting before the council vote, but all in all things worked out pretty well it looked like.

Kraldinor was always fun to interact with, even if we were usually facing awful odds most of the time, so nice job.

It was just after you deleted most of the rest of Hero Empire disappeared around the next week as well for various reasons. You not getting War Master was the start of my dissatisfaction with Duraskandr era which continued because of a wait and see attitude toward raising sect leaders. I think things might have been different if you had gotten War Master.

It was enjoyable to have you as an ally instead of con killing me this time around.

Not too much to say that we didn't say to each other in game. You were a shining example of an evil Rayihn follower. Yes, the beginning was rocky but you freely admit and understand why.

Much love, you'll be sorely missed, and I'll look forward to your next kooky attempt at Ray's religion.

Like a nexus gnome sphere water shapefocus water shifter or sphere healing druid or something.

The shining was just the oil on my head.

Again thanks for everything.

I am going to miss you. It was fun to interact with you every time.

I started to interact with you when you were High Priest. I knew you will get Emperor as I was plugging away 4-6hrs daily and did not see the old Emperor on as much or any hero imperial except you.

I had grown to like you over the period. That time you mentioned about Fortress trying to starve you to death by stealing your pouches was so hilarious, I was laughing so hard (IRL). One of the reasons why I gave you that pouch.

And thank you for all the interactions, at the bathhouse, or the Inn or anywhere else. It was always fun.

Thanks for making sure I was eating! I enjoyed out discussions on religion and the accomplishment of your duties.

I watched you a fair bit as Akresius, but most of my interactions with you were as Merrol. I thought you played a solid shaman, though it galled me that you got stronger in the hero ranks while I felt weaker. I think you got the better of me more times than not at the end, there.

Total agreement with what you said about hero shamans. I hope your next character has as much success as Kraldinor. Thanks for making the game fun to play.

I thought I had finally left Merrol behind, then you decided to hero . I forget how many times it took me to figure out I was screwed if I fought you in Galadon.

Overall, I'd say the the way you did shaman is the better way. Take a low exp race and come up slow. Fire Giant imho is probably the second worse race for a shaman because they kinda suck low to mid ranks, but I like em so screw it, and there are some nice things about them once you get everything going.

My hero success had more to do w cabal powers and competent allies than anything else.

Man you were truckasaurus at one point, when the whole world was stacked against you. All in all a great Emperor and one for the History books I think.

I was amused to see it was a mort of mine you were the first to interact w from your interaction logs. Wish we had a few more fights, but I just plowed through Midranks so I wouldn't be giving up titles.

Though I didn't agree with how the Imms role played the situation, you definitely were a good presence for the cabal. I did feel a bit of dread whenever you logged in because I would get dragged along instead of trying to get those damn songs perfected. Mind, it wasn't just you, everyone dragged me around for obvious reasons. If I did it again I would perfect a lot more songs before getting into hero range so I didn't have to worry about that as much. Good luck with your next!

I enjoyed your RP a lot, but understood your reasons for deleting. It seemed like bards never hung aroung long anyway. While you were around though, you were too useful not to drag along!

As soon as I interacted you with a throw-away char (You were high priest then?) I felt that I should help you and the Empire get stronger (Not that I can do any real help, but numbers matter too) So I role the dark-elf/warrior and joined. All I wanted to do was hero fast to be helpful. But when I was close to hero, it was obvious that blade sect and Empire were strong again. Jebaral was showing real strength and there were some blades close to hero range, and at the same time the enemies were all gone, Empire was going to be the ruling force. This is why I deleted the elite just a week after you promoted me, saying that you have made mistake promoting others before, and asked me to do a good elite. When you promoted, I knew I won't keep the char, but couldn't say it IC. So I deleted to open the spot for you again.
(I guess you caused too many new recruitments so you caused me delete the blade this way!)

Well done anyway. GLWYN

long p.s.

Another interaction was my felar/defender against you (You were Emperor then) raiding the village. I had seen how you killed Brizlin/Drillmaster a few days ago in a solo raid, so I was sure you will **** my felar who was not even hero yet. But it turned out much differently. I don't know why, but I would love to see your log of it, if there is any. You did anything wrong? over a course of about ten minutes, the battle changed from me playing very defensively at the inners, to running after you in the village, ruins and you worded? so it was done. (Almost got you at one point?) Either you did something wrong, had trouble at something or shamans are MEH? (Think former).

Let me start by saying I believe I recall 4 of your chars including this one and you have progressed greatly w each. I appreciate you deleting if you were gonna play much, though I would have been fine w you asking for demotion as well to free up the elite spot.

I don't have many logs, and Don't think I have any w pishuk, but I'll check. A lot of warriors gave me issues (Ierlaine was my worst fight), especially ones spec'd w weapons shaman don't know, so Pishuk just wasn't a real great matchup to start w, plus I tended not to prep at all outside flight so (you were a berserker right) something that dished a decent amount of damage could run me off as well. I don't remember the specifics of the build so can't come up w more than that.

The only thing I had to handle was plague. And I used about 10 golds totally to handle it. Everything else was fine. And you cannot do much with rot against a felar with full con or so I remember, right? (Though full con was with eq). But as I said, seeing you going through Drillmaster Brizlin, I didn't expect Pishuk even live against you.

Well then, I couldn't make you drop wpns cause you didn't use any and weak melee defense didn't matter much since I only had two attacks a round. I think you used crushing blow quite a bit as well which slowed me down demon firing you. You had poultice as well to fix some of the things I did and bandages to draw it out and good HPs on top of that. Times I remember killing brizlin w o rot he thirsted and ass hps aren't so hot anyway, so was less damage I had to do. Solo pk w a shaman is a lot of work and usually requires your opponent to overcommit at some point.

You are right. Brizlin thirsted that specific fight. I had a feeling that his defeat was due to the thirst, now that you have same idea, it should be it.

He brought me to his shrine and I told him that I broke my hand and he was like sorry dude and I deleeted.

I was chaotic duergar that was sphere gluttony. I rped out of the pumpkin patch northeast of arkham.

Thanks for having me trying to be one of your perma lackyes. it was fun
I dont remember who I was anymore, sorry. Kov.

Oh, I was the human ap, and .. stuff.

Solidity, you pwned by the way. Top char of the year

I enjoyed the three chars. Thanks for going Empire.

I also thought that I had responded to this! Ack!

Sorry about the delay, but I really enjoyed Kraldinor and his take on things. I thought you started off slow, but really got rolling and did a phenomenal job. I also really enjoyed you forcing everyone in the cabal to praise you and Rayihn when they logged on. It made for some very interesting interactions between myself and followers of my religion. Thanks for the fun!

=w=

Thanks! As far as starting off slow goes, anyone can suck. It takes someone really special to suck w Emperor powers.

I expected a lot more push back on my religous take and to get overthrown after about a month, but that was probably helped by few religous characters in Empire overall.

I plan to make a follower some day If I can think of an IC reason I like alcohol. Of course I am still trying to think of an IC reason I hate magic as well so.....

I agree, the first hundred hours were great. Having the time to throw the whole kitchen sink at you while you were trying to slowplay me into malediction death was nearly as stress relieving as actually punching a bag. Really respected your pick yourself up and keep going it attitude, although eventually I realized you were just trying to wear people down and I stopped biting so frequently. I bantered with you a lot to encourage you and tried to make sure you got your gear back.

The next few hundred...yes, you kind of lashed out nearly OOC a few times, and also went more deceitful/manipulative (the latter being just great RP for an evil dude. I.e., saying you were done trying to retrieve and about to rest and then running back for quick shot at summon/kill). I was never comfortable really bantering with you RPwise, I just did it to make your experience a little better, so went things felt OOC I stopped talking to you.

Glad I got a chance to fight with you again before you died. I was planning on being prepared for the same time slot the next week, but you died a day early and I never got my battle royale showdown

To answer your parting thought..no way! I played an outlander during Hunsobo -- Empire/Scion/Trib powerhouses, Empire/Trib combined death groups of seven hunting everyone down. It sucked. My best option was to lose con by charging Hunsobo because that was the only way I could keep stuff past regearing.

Actually, I usually meant to quit out those times you mentioned, but would end up giving it one more go.

I got frustrated to the point I really should have deleted, but it was somewhat gratifying to see it through. We had some good fights off and on and was glad to see you survive the Auldr era.

As far as the last piece, my first year back was mainly spent in outlander (I had a Sunwarden and others) against the likes of Adarmar, Ckath, Paralouit, Arkellin, Lamaiyan and their lackeys, so I can commiserate, but I still stand by what I said.

It's months in the past, so I don't mind revealing it now.

In the early days, a lot of the times you likely thought I was Fortlander I was actually booted out of Outlander by Auldr and running around with non paladin Fortress. This included some defenses of the Refuge, where I was running huge risks since I wasn't immune to snares, Spirit, et al. As well as some defenses of Fortress that I'm sure appeared as frustrating as when Buereneus picked me off in reverse situations.

I just running a bluff since I thought I'd have a better chance if it seemed I was still in the cabal. I also had plenty scion and nexun and trib air/offense + that air/water Chancellor and Hilamar gating to me. Ironically we might have been having the same sort of days during diff time slots. There was plenty going on to feel the epic adversity

You eventually figured it out, of course

Was looking forward to when we could finally square off head to head to pit the clan vs the empire. From afar I just wanted to say you took empire in a different direction and it was both refreshing to see a new outtake and awesome to see how succesfully you did it.

good luck with your next, maybe try that orc out again, I hear it is rutting season in the grinning skulls village.

It's good to see an orc making some noise, even if you are pissing a lot a people off (what better class to do it with).

If we had of been able to fight, one on one I think we would both have had a lot of frustration, but it should have made for a pretty good fight. Mundugunu would be my pick to fight a shaman with, but Fire Shaman is also going to deal with an orc better than some other races will.

However, It would have been easier for me to gather numbers, and if it had come to be a real threat, I would have started making a big effort to undermine you in the GSV.

You and I knew each other as a few characters. I enjoyed every interaction with you. I was Tinwold, Kalgranesh, and Torvesh. I also played Charemos but that was short lived. Great job there and GLWYN!