Lyristeon | Sun 08-Aug-10 07:05 AM |
Member since 02nd Jan 2004
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#34436, "RE: So let's talk about the Inferno"
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The standards were actually quite different.
I remember going to the Inferno and it was an OOC fest.
Here was the group I was with.
FIRST PARTY TO SLAY THE ARCH-DEVIL DISPATER
Graatch Mahaira Kantherion Amlaruil Syrinaa Challen Angelica Tsemakh
My character was Kantherion.
The rules, as we understood it back then were:
1. Don't talk out loud. (If we "say" it, the "devils" will surely kill us.) 2. Talking in the gtell mode was safe. ("Thinking" something in that fashion is no different than doing it as someone not in hell.)
We found safe places to drop link. We set up our times to return. We did everything we could going over our notes.
We did say something out loud once and sure enough, we had to go through an epic rping experience which we all enjoyed thoroughly. So we knew we were being watched.
This all happened over a decade ago. I wouldn't even think of doing a hell trip the same way now.
During the '90s (I started playing in '94) I was part of one of those infamous crews. Mind you, I was taught by one of those ring leaders on how to play. We eventually went our own ways in regards to playing. He hasn't played since the late 90s and I eventually immed.
Part of the reason I immed was because part of me still thought that something wanky must be going on in certain situations. And I wanted to know. I cleaned up my playing act and applied to imm with Kantherion. Obviously, I was turned down. I then went through many more characters over the course of a few years and applied with Blachmianan. I got to see behind the green curtain and this is what I learned:
Not all of the imms agree on everything all of the time. There is no kool-aid. They discuss things as a group when there is a difference of opinion until a resolution is made. What I thought was wanky in why things are the way they are, was completely explained in threads on the immortal forums (mind you, the higher the level you are, the more there is to read). Unfortunately, after that meltdown earlier this year, most of those threads are gone. I have posted many of the humorous ones for you all to read in the past.
Now, here's the dilemma which I hinted at in an earlier post in this thread "It really is a Catch-22":
A player with ties to an ooc ring becomes an imm. He eventually gets to a high enough level to read the threads about balance and game play. He tells the player base that all is cool, but he really can't go into detail. Some of the elite know-it-all players say something must be wrong and call BS. They are wrong. Some other players believe elite know-it-all. No matter how much is said, they don't believe the imm. The imm is right, but couldn't prove it to them anyway, so what's the point of trying? Imm still tries, and is still told something must be wanky. BLEH.
And even though these elite know-it-all players KNOW that we MUST be cheating somehow, they continue to play the game. Why? Because we enforce the rules to keep CF the way it is.
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So let's talk about the Inferno
[View all] , Torak, Sun 08-Aug-10 10:00 PM
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Tesline,
08-Aug-10 01:28 PM, #92
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Isildur,
06-Aug-10 11:07 PM, #82
You don't get it...,
Torak,
06-Aug-10 11:22 PM, #83
Your argument would hold more weight...,
TMNS,
07-Aug-10 02:28 AM, #84
RE: You don't get it...,
Isildur,
07-Aug-10 04:50 AM, #86
RE: You don't get it...,
Torak,
07-Aug-10 11:22 AM, #87
RE: You don't get it...,
Eskelian,
09-Aug-10 10:20 PM, #95
RE: You don't get it...,
incognito,
11-Aug-10 06:15 PM, #96
I've been to the Inferno with the Ravon and Igbah group...,
Gaspar,
06-Aug-10 08:12 PM, #79
I beg to differ,
incognito,
11-Aug-10 06:16 PM, #97
Explorefags,
Scrimbul,
06-Aug-10 12:25 PM, #65
We could not be more different,
Torak,
06-Aug-10 12:50 PM, #67
I already don't play.,
Scrimbul,
06-Aug-10 01:20 PM, #68
Nope,
Torak,
06-Aug-10 01:32 PM, #69
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Rayihn,
05-Aug-10 01:57 PM, #62
Catch 22,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 02:02 PM, #2
RE: Catch 22,
Isildur,
05-Aug-10 03:03 PM, #5
RE: Catch 22,
ORB,
05-Aug-10 03:22 PM, #9
It's by far the coolest area in the game next to the si...,
Amberion,
05-Aug-10 05:27 PM, #26
RE: Catch 22,
incognito,
11-Aug-10 06:18 PM, #98
I haven't been around very much lately,
Mekantos,
05-Aug-10 02:14 PM, #3
Just one thing...,
TMNS,
05-Aug-10 03:17 PM, #6
RE: Just one thing...,
ORB,
05-Aug-10 03:26 PM, #10
One big difference here,
Torak,
05-Aug-10 03:35 PM, #11
RE: Just one thing...,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 04:09 PM, #14
But then,
incognito,
11-Aug-10 06:20 PM, #99
Hrmm,
A2,
05-Aug-10 02:32 PM, #4
Take the damn area out of the game then if you dont wan...,
Gaplemo,
05-Aug-10 03:19 PM, #7
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Aarn,
05-Aug-10 03:20 PM, #8
I love you - awesome post~,
Torak,
05-Aug-10 03:37 PM, #12
Theres no big secret, You hit the nail on the head.,
Gaplemo,
05-Aug-10 04:06 PM, #13
Honest question:,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 04:14 PM, #15
Does it really matter?,
Gaplemo,
05-Aug-10 04:17 PM, #16
I never get a chance to roll with my friends.,
TMNS,
05-Aug-10 04:26 PM, #18
But thats the thing. There was no mass pking, no domina...,
Gaplemo,
05-Aug-10 04:40 PM, #22
Thoughts of a newbie,
Tohno,
05-Aug-10 04:31 PM, #20
If I could point a huge red arrow at this, I would~,
Torak,
05-Aug-10 04:34 PM, #21
We all learn from someone.,
thendrell,
05-Aug-10 06:57 PM, #39
That's how I'm hoping it is,
Tohno,
05-Aug-10 08:11 PM, #50
RE: Thoughts of a newbie,
Daevryn,
05-Aug-10 11:04 PM, #54
RE: Thoughts of a newbie,
Tohno,
06-Aug-10 12:38 AM, #57
Hell (pardon the pun) yes it does!,
Pro,
05-Aug-10 04:49 PM, #23
RE: Theres no big secret, You hit the nail on the head.,
Aarn,
05-Aug-10 04:25 PM, #17
In all honesty,
Torak,
05-Aug-10 04:35 PM, #19
The problem,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 05:20 PM, #25
The other end of this...,
Pro,
05-Aug-10 05:57 PM, #28
RE: The other end of this...,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 06:16 PM, #32
He said they were going for Satan.,
Pro,
05-Aug-10 06:48 PM, #37
RE: Theres no big secret, You hit the nail on the head.,
Daevryn,
05-Aug-10 06:10 PM, #93
FWIW,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 06:22 PM, #33
RE: FWIW,
Daevryn,
05-Aug-10 06:31 PM, #34
RE: FWIW,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 06:39 PM, #36
It really is a Catch-22,
Lyristeon,
07-Aug-10 07:33 PM, #88
Long rambling response,
thendrell,
05-Aug-10 07:18 PM, #40
RE: Long rambling response,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 07:48 PM, #44
RE: Theres no big secret, You hit the nail on the head.,
Aarn,
05-Aug-10 07:27 PM, #43
There is a difference between OOC coordination...,
Zulghinlour,
05-Aug-10 05:40 PM, #27
So if i had sent a mass note out, it would all have bee...,
Gaplemo,
05-Aug-10 05:59 PM, #29
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Daevryn,
05-Aug-10 06:02 PM, #30
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Aarn,
05-Aug-10 07:24 PM, #41
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Daevryn,
05-Aug-10 07:26 PM, #42
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Aarn,
05-Aug-10 08:04 PM, #49
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
larsihalv,
06-Aug-10 06:10 PM, #75
The group in question,
Zulghinlour,
05-Aug-10 07:51 PM, #45
For real.,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 07:55 PM, #46
Ironically,
Torak,
05-Aug-10 08:04 PM, #48
Its one of the first I got,
Gaplemo,
06-Aug-10 01:33 AM, #58
RE: The group in question,
Aarn,
05-Aug-10 08:02 PM, #47
Honestly, Aarn:,
Malakhi,
08-Aug-10 03:08 AM, #89
RE: Honestly, Aarn:,
Aarn,
12-Aug-10 09:36 AM, #102
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Lyristeon,
08-Aug-10 07:05 AM #90
Yea it sucks,
Knac,
08-Aug-10 12:06 PM, #91
Heh, didn't know you were Kantherion..,
Marcus_,
09-Aug-10 09:56 AM, #94
You could argue otherwise,
incognito,
11-Aug-10 06:21 PM, #100
Maybe a controversial opinion.,
Eskelian,
06-Aug-10 09:06 AM, #59
Very good post and I agree (nt),
Nightgaunt_,
06-Aug-10 09:28 AM, #60
This. nt,
Splntrd,
06-Aug-10 09:58 AM, #61
That's the root of the issue really, bravo,
Torak,
06-Aug-10 11:55 AM, #63
RE: Maybe a controversial opinion.,
Verdelyeb,
06-Aug-10 12:12 PM, #64
Single best post ever.,
Artificial,
06-Aug-10 12:30 PM, #66
Well put -nt-,
Mekantos,
06-Aug-10 01:33 PM, #70
Agreed,
bphan,
06-Aug-10 02:03 PM, #71
RE: Maybe a controversial opinion.,
Elerosse,
06-Aug-10 03:58 PM, #72
A very good post, I endorse it to 100% N/T,
Amberion,
06-Aug-10 05:37 PM, #73
I agree.,
sorlag (Anonymous),
06-Aug-10 06:01 PM, #74
Grand post. ~~~~~~,
Batman (Anonymous),
06-Aug-10 07:03 PM, #76
If you put it this way,
Gaplemo,
06-Aug-10 07:49 PM, #77
forget it,
CharlieWaffles,
06-Aug-10 08:59 PM, #78
Devil's Advocate,
sorlag (Anonymous),
06-Aug-10 10:43 PM, #81
Well said. I wish i read this earlier and copy and past...,
Gaspar,
06-Aug-10 09:44 PM, #80
Not controversial in the least, IMHO.,
TMNS,
07-Aug-10 02:36 AM, #85
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Daevryn,
05-Aug-10 11:57 PM, #55
Actually I'm happy with these answers,
Torak,
06-Aug-10 12:43 AM, #56
Simple question.,
wareagle,
05-Aug-10 10:24 PM, #52
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
Daevryn,
05-Aug-10 06:11 PM, #31
That's it?,
Torak,
05-Aug-10 06:39 PM, #35
You're acting like he owes you something.,
Guilo,
05-Aug-10 06:51 PM, #38
Whoa cowboy, calm down.,
Torak,
05-Aug-10 08:14 PM, #51
RE: Whoa cowboy, calm down.,
Daevryn,
05-Aug-10 10:37 PM, #53
ditto,
incognito,
11-Aug-10 06:29 PM, #101
Question for the IMMs regarding future Hell explorer wa...,
Humbert,
05-Aug-10 04:59 PM, #24
RE: So let's talk about the Inferno,
sorlag (Anonymous),
05-Aug-10 01:23 PM, #1
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