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VerdelyebFri 06-Aug-10 12:12 PM
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#34389, "RE: Maybe a controversial opinion."


          

>* If you know another player OOC, treat their character as
>you would any other.
>This disallows having multiple characters 'attached at the
>hip'. See
>PERMAGROUP.


I have to agree that the rule/interpretation needs updating. Either change it to say that any grouping with, pking with, exploring with or otherwise interacting with a character that you know through OOC means is against the rules or it should not have been enforced in this case from what has been said. In my opinion, as a person who has never gone to Hell, partially due to time constraints, I can see how difficult it would be to try and get a proper group to explore successfully through IC means. Heck, with a 6 week old daughter I'm lucky to get 1-2 hours to play with interruptions in there and I imagine most of the player base is the same. Anything like Hell requiring a good 6-7 hours or more has to be scheduled in advance and the OOC communication tools make it far easier to plan.

On another note regarding the permagrouping rule, throughout the years, the friends that I know in real life have pretty much all stopped playing. Some would return if they could roll characters to play with me, as it is nice to have friends in real life you can game with especially knowing that your 1-2 hours of playtime will not be wasted trying to find a group. Instead, they do not want to spend time making a character, getting into the character because of the risk of being denied. Instead, they play other multi-player games. I am not saying that the rules should be ignored, but for some of the aspects of the game that are more tedious than others, such as big exploration expeditions and ranking, I think it would be beneficial to relax the rules. Allow a person to invite a real life friend that they can help by leveling with, showing gear, etc. without the risk of a deny.

Anyway, that's just my take on the matter.

  

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HOT Locked TopicSo let's talk about the Inferno [View all] , Torak, Sun 08-Aug-10 10:00 PM
Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Tesline, 08-Aug-10 01:28 PM, #92
Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Isildur, 06-Aug-10 11:07 PM, #82
Reply You don't get it..., Torak, 06-Aug-10 11:22 PM, #83
     Reply Your argument would hold more weight..., TMNS, 07-Aug-10 02:28 AM, #84
     Reply RE: You don't get it..., Isildur, 07-Aug-10 04:50 AM, #86
     Reply RE: You don't get it..., Torak, 07-Aug-10 11:22 AM, #87
     Reply RE: You don't get it..., Eskelian, 09-Aug-10 10:20 PM, #95
     Reply RE: You don't get it..., incognito, 11-Aug-10 06:15 PM, #96
Reply I've been to the Inferno with the Ravon and Igbah group..., Gaspar, 06-Aug-10 08:12 PM, #79
Reply I beg to differ, incognito, 11-Aug-10 06:16 PM, #97
Reply Explorefags, Scrimbul, 06-Aug-10 12:25 PM, #65
Reply We could not be more different, Torak, 06-Aug-10 12:50 PM, #67
     Reply I already don't play., Scrimbul, 06-Aug-10 01:20 PM, #68
          Reply Nope, Torak, 06-Aug-10 01:32 PM, #69
Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Rayihn, 05-Aug-10 01:57 PM, #62
Reply Catch 22, sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 02:02 PM, #2
Reply RE: Catch 22, Isildur, 05-Aug-10 03:03 PM, #5
Reply RE: Catch 22, ORB, 05-Aug-10 03:22 PM, #9
Reply It's by far the coolest area in the game next to the si..., Amberion, 05-Aug-10 05:27 PM, #26
Reply RE: Catch 22, incognito, 11-Aug-10 06:18 PM, #98
Reply I haven't been around very much lately, Mekantos, 05-Aug-10 02:14 PM, #3
Reply Just one thing..., TMNS, 05-Aug-10 03:17 PM, #6
Reply RE: Just one thing..., ORB, 05-Aug-10 03:26 PM, #10
Reply One big difference here, Torak, 05-Aug-10 03:35 PM, #11
Reply RE: Just one thing..., sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 04:09 PM, #14
Reply But then, incognito, 11-Aug-10 06:20 PM, #99
Reply Hrmm, A2, 05-Aug-10 02:32 PM, #4
Reply Take the damn area out of the game then if you dont wan..., Gaplemo, 05-Aug-10 03:19 PM, #7
Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Aarn, 05-Aug-10 03:20 PM, #8
     Reply I love you - awesome post~, Torak, 05-Aug-10 03:37 PM, #12
     Reply Theres no big secret, You hit the nail on the head., Gaplemo, 05-Aug-10 04:06 PM, #13
     Reply Honest question:, sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 04:14 PM, #15
     Reply Does it really matter?, Gaplemo, 05-Aug-10 04:17 PM, #16
          Reply I never get a chance to roll with my friends., TMNS, 05-Aug-10 04:26 PM, #18
          Reply But thats the thing. There was no mass pking, no domina..., Gaplemo, 05-Aug-10 04:40 PM, #22
          Reply Thoughts of a newbie, Tohno, 05-Aug-10 04:31 PM, #20
          Reply If I could point a huge red arrow at this, I would~, Torak, 05-Aug-10 04:34 PM, #21
          Reply We all learn from someone., thendrell, 05-Aug-10 06:57 PM, #39
          Reply That's how I'm hoping it is, Tohno, 05-Aug-10 08:11 PM, #50
          Reply RE: Thoughts of a newbie, Daevryn, 05-Aug-10 11:04 PM, #54
               Reply RE: Thoughts of a newbie, Tohno, 06-Aug-10 12:38 AM, #57
          Reply Hell (pardon the pun) yes it does!, Pro, 05-Aug-10 04:49 PM, #23
     Reply RE: Theres no big secret, You hit the nail on the head., Aarn, 05-Aug-10 04:25 PM, #17
     Reply In all honesty, Torak, 05-Aug-10 04:35 PM, #19
          Reply The problem, sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 05:20 PM, #25
               Reply The other end of this..., Pro, 05-Aug-10 05:57 PM, #28
                    Reply RE: The other end of this..., sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 06:16 PM, #32
                         Reply He said they were going for Satan., Pro, 05-Aug-10 06:48 PM, #37
     Reply RE: Theres no big secret, You hit the nail on the head., Daevryn, 05-Aug-10 06:10 PM, #93
          Reply FWIW, sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 06:22 PM, #33
          Reply RE: FWIW, Daevryn, 05-Aug-10 06:31 PM, #34
               Reply RE: FWIW, sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 06:39 PM, #36
               Reply It really is a Catch-22, Lyristeon, 07-Aug-10 07:33 PM, #88
               Reply Long rambling response, thendrell, 05-Aug-10 07:18 PM, #40
                    Reply RE: Long rambling response, sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 07:48 PM, #44
          Reply RE: Theres no big secret, You hit the nail on the head., Aarn, 05-Aug-10 07:27 PM, #43
     Reply There is a difference between OOC coordination..., Zulghinlour, 05-Aug-10 05:40 PM, #27
     Reply So if i had sent a mass note out, it would all have bee..., Gaplemo, 05-Aug-10 05:59 PM, #29
     Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Daevryn, 05-Aug-10 06:02 PM, #30
     Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Aarn, 05-Aug-10 07:24 PM, #41
          Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Daevryn, 05-Aug-10 07:26 PM, #42
          Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Aarn, 05-Aug-10 08:04 PM, #49
               Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, larsihalv, 06-Aug-10 06:10 PM, #75
          Reply The group in question, Zulghinlour, 05-Aug-10 07:51 PM, #45
               Reply For real., sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 07:55 PM, #46
               Reply Ironically, Torak, 05-Aug-10 08:04 PM, #48
                    Reply Its one of the first I got, Gaplemo, 06-Aug-10 01:33 AM, #58
               Reply RE: The group in question, Aarn, 05-Aug-10 08:02 PM, #47
     Reply Honestly, Aarn:, Malakhi, 08-Aug-10 03:08 AM, #89
     Reply RE: Honestly, Aarn:, Aarn, 12-Aug-10 09:36 AM, #102
     Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Lyristeon, 08-Aug-10 07:05 AM, #90
     Reply Yea it sucks, Knac, 08-Aug-10 12:06 PM, #91
     Reply Heh, didn't know you were Kantherion.., Marcus_, 09-Aug-10 09:56 AM, #94
     Reply You could argue otherwise, incognito, 11-Aug-10 06:21 PM, #100
Reply Maybe a controversial opinion., Eskelian, 06-Aug-10 09:06 AM, #59
Reply Very good post and I agree (nt), Nightgaunt_, 06-Aug-10 09:28 AM, #60
Reply This. nt, Splntrd, 06-Aug-10 09:58 AM, #61
Reply That's the root of the issue really, bravo, Torak, 06-Aug-10 11:55 AM, #63
Reply RE: Maybe a controversial opinion., Verdelyeb, 06-Aug-10 12:12 PM #64
Reply Single best post ever., Artificial, 06-Aug-10 12:30 PM, #66
Reply Well put -nt-, Mekantos, 06-Aug-10 01:33 PM, #70
Reply Agreed, bphan, 06-Aug-10 02:03 PM, #71
Reply RE: Maybe a controversial opinion., Elerosse, 06-Aug-10 03:58 PM, #72
Reply A very good post, I endorse it to 100% N/T, Amberion, 06-Aug-10 05:37 PM, #73
Reply I agree., sorlag (Anonymous), 06-Aug-10 06:01 PM, #74
Reply Grand post. ~~~~~~, Batman (Anonymous), 06-Aug-10 07:03 PM, #76
Reply If you put it this way, Gaplemo, 06-Aug-10 07:49 PM, #77
Reply forget it, CharlieWaffles, 06-Aug-10 08:59 PM, #78
Reply Devil's Advocate, sorlag (Anonymous), 06-Aug-10 10:43 PM, #81
Reply Well said. I wish i read this earlier and copy and past..., Gaspar, 06-Aug-10 09:44 PM, #80
Reply Not controversial in the least, IMHO., TMNS, 07-Aug-10 02:36 AM, #85
Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Daevryn, 05-Aug-10 11:57 PM, #55
Reply Actually I'm happy with these answers, Torak, 06-Aug-10 12:43 AM, #56
Reply Simple question., wareagle, 05-Aug-10 10:24 PM, #52
Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, Daevryn, 05-Aug-10 06:11 PM, #31
Reply That's it?, Torak, 05-Aug-10 06:39 PM, #35
     Reply You're acting like he owes you something., Guilo, 05-Aug-10 06:51 PM, #38
          Reply Whoa cowboy, calm down., Torak, 05-Aug-10 08:14 PM, #51
          Reply RE: Whoa cowboy, calm down., Daevryn, 05-Aug-10 10:37 PM, #53
          Reply ditto, incognito, 11-Aug-10 06:29 PM, #101
Reply Question for the IMMs regarding future Hell explorer wa..., Humbert, 05-Aug-10 04:59 PM, #24
Reply RE: So let's talk about the Inferno, sorlag (Anonymous), 05-Aug-10 01:23 PM, #1
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