Lyristeon | Fri 20-Aug-10 07:33 AM |
Member since 02nd Jan 2004
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#34900, "RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long)"
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>See the difference is when you go after a "repeat offender" >it doesn't come across to everyone like you're doing the right >thing. It looks like you're holding this individual to a >higher standard so that you can start drama with them.
It doesn't look like we are holding them to a higher standard at all. Most people play with the "normal" standard. They are REPEAT offenders who get busted for REPEATING the same offenses.
> >Not everyone interprets it that way, but enough people >interpret it that way that I'm inclined to say either ban them >or treat them like everyone else.
They are treated like everyone else when it comes to the rules. The only difference is they repeat the offenses. Just like at our judicial system. Plenty of them have the "3 Strikes and Your Out" rule. We are way more lenient than that.
> >This half and half treatment of letting them play but holding >them to a higher standard *causes* drama. And its predictable >and preventable.
See above.
> >Do you think anyone would care if you banned a repeat >offender? No, probably not. But holding them to a higher >standard while not banning them causes people to perceive >inconsistency and risk when dealing with you. That perception >causes hostility.
See above.
> >Edited to add: Regarding the whole laissez-faire thing, I >have no idea what you're driving at here. It's like you guys >have a hammer and now every situation looks like a nail. >There's many, many ways to deal with things to achieve results >and sometimes the best answer is to really do nothing, >insomuch as its inconsistent. Nothing I've said on this >thread is controversial and most of it is just common sense. >Let's face it, this isn't a party. This is a game, one that >people have put years of programming into and years playing >and spend weeks writing up roles for and invest hundreds of >hours into their characters on. It's not a casual weekend >party. If you "bounce" someone's char after they spend 200 >hours on it, they're going to be a lot more angry at you then >if you toss them out of a party. Drop the bad analogy already >or keep walking into the same wall over and over again and >blaming other people for it.
Broken down to the most basic concept is that CF is a free optional place for you to hang out as long as you don't cause problems. If you cause problems, you will get "bounced". It is not the place of business that you are trying to make it out to be.
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Again, I say:
[View all] , Stunna, Wed 18-Aug-10 04:36 PM
is it only a lack of vision?,
vorian,
22-Aug-10 04:07 PM, #71
RE: is it only a lack of vision?,
Isildur,
22-Aug-10 04:33 PM, #72
Imms are too soft.,
Shapa,
19-Aug-10 09:26 PM, #43
FWIW (Inre: lack of long term retention),
Larcat,
19-Aug-10 04:38 PM, #29
RE: FWIW (Inre: lack of long term retention),
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 06:21 PM, #32
RE: FWIW (Inre: lack of long term retention),
Larcat,
19-Aug-10 11:41 PM, #51
Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Valguarnera,
18-Aug-10 10:48 PM, #1
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
HammerSong,
18-Aug-10 11:43 PM, #2
My Take (really long; read at your own discretion),
Thinhallen,
19-Aug-10 04:56 AM, #4
RE: My Take (really long; read at your own discretion),
HammerSong,
19-Aug-10 06:42 PM, #34
:),
trewyn,
21-Aug-10 12:51 AM, #67
"the time between the fun and not fun is too big",
Thinhallen,
21-Aug-10 03:05 PM, #68
RE: ,
Daevryn,
21-Aug-10 08:46 PM, #69
Good post, one point.,
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:09 AM, #53
like (n/t) (meant to be under Valg's post)*,
Nnaeshuk,
19-Aug-10 12:24 PM, #13
Great post.,
Asthiss,
19-Aug-10 02:07 AM, #3
Thanks for the link inside.,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 06:38 AM, #5
I think at this point...,
vargal,
19-Aug-10 06:54 AM, #6
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Jhyrbian,
19-Aug-10 08:36 AM, #7
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 09:04 AM, #8
Well said,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 12:37 PM, #14
Nope. 2003.,
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 05:46 PM, #30
Ah~,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 07:43 PM, #39
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 12:44 PM, #15
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
ORB,
19-Aug-10 12:55 PM, #16
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 01:35 PM, #19
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:17 AM, #54
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
20-Aug-10 08:02 AM, #61
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 12:05 PM, #63
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
20-Aug-10 01:10 PM, #64
There's a lot going on in this thread,
A2,
20-Aug-10 05:57 PM, #65
I disagree that it's dogma.,
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 06:02 PM, #31
Removed my southwest discussion, off topic. n/t,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 10:03 PM, #46
As someone who has worked in several restaurants...,
TMNS,
20-Aug-10 12:17 AM, #52
Talk about inflated ego.,
_Magus_,
19-Aug-10 02:32 PM, #26
Umm...,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 08:34 PM, #41
RE: Umm...,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 09:52 PM, #47
Yup NT,
Lyristeon,
20-Aug-10 07:23 AM, #59
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Zulghinlour,
19-Aug-10 01:05 PM, #17
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 01:49 PM, #18
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 01:56 PM, #20
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 02:38 PM, #22
It goes both ways,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 02:19 PM, #25
RE: It goes both ways,
Daevryn,
19-Aug-10 07:24 PM, #36
Well...,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 07:43 PM, #38
RE: Well...,
Daevryn,
19-Aug-10 08:02 PM, #40
As someone you've talked to ooc about mechanics,
Stunna,
20-Aug-10 06:04 PM, #66
Good post, probably. n/t,
Stunna,
19-Aug-10 02:25 PM, #27
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:24 AM, #55
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Lyristeon,
20-Aug-10 07:33 AM #60
<3,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 01:57 PM, #21
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 06:33 PM, #33
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 09:39 PM, #45
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Daevryn,
19-Aug-10 07:26 PM, #37
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 09:31 PM, #44
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Daevryn,
19-Aug-10 11:23 PM, #50
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
20-Aug-10 08:35 AM, #62
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Daevryn,
21-Aug-10 08:51 PM, #70
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Zulghinlour,
19-Aug-10 09:34 PM, #42
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 10:01 PM, #48
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:32 AM, #56
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Stunna,
19-Aug-10 02:10 PM, #24
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 10:10 PM, #49
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
ORB,
19-Aug-10 09:22 AM, #9
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:34 AM, #57
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
ORB,
20-Aug-10 07:05 AM, #58
Newbie Channel pt2.,
Kalageadon,
19-Aug-10 10:19 AM, #10
Good post,
MoetEtChandon,
19-Aug-10 12:01 PM, #11
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Malakhi,
19-Aug-10 12:14 PM, #12
Wow, thanks for writing out what I was thinking! Hopefu...,
Stunna,
19-Aug-10 02:06 PM, #23
Party analogy,
Quixotic,
19-Aug-10 04:28 PM, #28
RE: Party analogy,
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 06:56 PM, #35
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Vintus (Anonymous),
02-Sep-10 12:17 AM, #73
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