Valguarnera | Thu 19-Aug-10 06:21 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#34870, "RE: FWIW (Inre: lack of long term retention)"
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Two things have kept me from doing so:
1) Every time I check here and Dios, I see the same people having the same fights they have had for the 15 years on and off (jesus, yes that long) I have played CF. It is just kind of depressing in an old-man-sitting-on-the-same-bar-stool-he-sat-on-when-you-were-21-and-are-now-30 kind of a way.
I'd agree here. Unfortunately, one way some players and staff handle this is by either withdrawing from the community entirely (your option), or just playing and ignoring the forums (where we lose a reasonable voice, and the problem compounds).
2) The time required to get a character up to speed coupled with the time required to recover from death
To be fair, time-to-hero is lower now than it was earlier in the decade, and the various changes to Outfit, ghost time, XP loss on mob deaths, more prevalent limited gear, etc. likely make recovery from death faster in an absolute sense, at least vs. anything past the first couple years of CF.
I suspect what has changed is that:
A) That time is being drawn from your more demanding schedule. 10 minutes now feels like an hour did some years ago. However, if we tailor the game to your schedule (and I'd argue we have been, to some extent), we run the risk of radically changing the game to other people with more time to play if we aren't careful.
B) Your standards are higher. Most novice players either don't know what the best "stuff" is, or they've just written off ever having it. A novice might feel quite good about covering all their wear slots with non-horrible stuff, keeping up a 1:1 or 1:2 PK ratio, and being a rank-and-file member of cabal X. You've been higher up on the heap, and now that would feel like a failure to you.
Your points are both valid, but I don't think you would say either is trivial to solve.
valguarnera@carrionfields.com
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Again, I say:
[View all] , Stunna, Wed 18-Aug-10 04:36 PM
is it only a lack of vision?,
vorian,
22-Aug-10 04:07 PM, #71
RE: is it only a lack of vision?,
Isildur,
22-Aug-10 04:33 PM, #72
Imms are too soft.,
Shapa,
19-Aug-10 09:26 PM, #43
FWIW (Inre: lack of long term retention),
Larcat,
19-Aug-10 04:38 PM, #29
RE: FWIW (Inre: lack of long term retention),
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 06:21 PM #32
RE: FWIW (Inre: lack of long term retention),
Larcat,
19-Aug-10 11:41 PM, #51
Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Valguarnera,
18-Aug-10 10:48 PM, #1
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
HammerSong,
18-Aug-10 11:43 PM, #2
My Take (really long; read at your own discretion),
Thinhallen,
19-Aug-10 04:56 AM, #4
RE: My Take (really long; read at your own discretion),
HammerSong,
19-Aug-10 06:42 PM, #34
:),
trewyn,
21-Aug-10 12:51 AM, #67
"the time between the fun and not fun is too big",
Thinhallen,
21-Aug-10 03:05 PM, #68
RE: ,
Daevryn,
21-Aug-10 08:46 PM, #69
Good post, one point.,
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:09 AM, #53
like (n/t) (meant to be under Valg's post)*,
Nnaeshuk,
19-Aug-10 12:24 PM, #13
Great post.,
Asthiss,
19-Aug-10 02:07 AM, #3
Thanks for the link inside.,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 06:38 AM, #5
I think at this point...,
vargal,
19-Aug-10 06:54 AM, #6
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Jhyrbian,
19-Aug-10 08:36 AM, #7
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 09:04 AM, #8
Well said,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 12:37 PM, #14
Nope. 2003.,
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 05:46 PM, #30
Ah~,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 07:43 PM, #39
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 12:44 PM, #15
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
ORB,
19-Aug-10 12:55 PM, #16
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 01:35 PM, #19
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:17 AM, #54
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
20-Aug-10 08:02 AM, #61
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 12:05 PM, #63
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
20-Aug-10 01:10 PM, #64
There's a lot going on in this thread,
A2,
20-Aug-10 05:57 PM, #65
I disagree that it's dogma.,
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 06:02 PM, #31
Removed my southwest discussion, off topic. n/t,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 10:03 PM, #46
As someone who has worked in several restaurants...,
TMNS,
20-Aug-10 12:17 AM, #52
Talk about inflated ego.,
_Magus_,
19-Aug-10 02:32 PM, #26
Umm...,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 08:34 PM, #41
RE: Umm...,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 09:52 PM, #47
Yup NT,
Lyristeon,
20-Aug-10 07:23 AM, #59
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Zulghinlour,
19-Aug-10 01:05 PM, #17
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 01:49 PM, #18
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 01:56 PM, #20
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 02:38 PM, #22
It goes both ways,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 02:19 PM, #25
RE: It goes both ways,
Daevryn,
19-Aug-10 07:24 PM, #36
Well...,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 07:43 PM, #38
RE: Well...,
Daevryn,
19-Aug-10 08:02 PM, #40
As someone you've talked to ooc about mechanics,
Stunna,
20-Aug-10 06:04 PM, #66
Good post, probably. n/t,
Stunna,
19-Aug-10 02:25 PM, #27
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:24 AM, #55
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Lyristeon,
20-Aug-10 07:33 AM, #60
<3,
Torak,
19-Aug-10 01:57 PM, #21
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 06:33 PM, #33
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 09:39 PM, #45
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Daevryn,
19-Aug-10 07:26 PM, #37
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 09:31 PM, #44
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Daevryn,
19-Aug-10 11:23 PM, #50
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
20-Aug-10 08:35 AM, #62
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Daevryn,
21-Aug-10 08:51 PM, #70
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Zulghinlour,
19-Aug-10 09:34 PM, #42
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 10:01 PM, #48
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:32 AM, #56
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Stunna,
19-Aug-10 02:10 PM, #24
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 10:10 PM, #49
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
ORB,
19-Aug-10 09:22 AM, #9
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
A2,
20-Aug-10 03:34 AM, #57
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
ORB,
20-Aug-10 07:05 AM, #58
Newbie Channel pt2.,
Kalageadon,
19-Aug-10 10:19 AM, #10
Good post,
MoetEtChandon,
19-Aug-10 12:01 PM, #11
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Malakhi,
19-Aug-10 12:14 PM, #12
Wow, thanks for writing out what I was thinking! Hopefu...,
Stunna,
19-Aug-10 02:06 PM, #23
Party analogy,
Quixotic,
19-Aug-10 04:28 PM, #28
RE: Party analogy,
Valguarnera,
19-Aug-10 06:56 PM, #35
RE: Short-term vs. long-term retention (long),
Vintus (Anonymous),
02-Sep-10 12:17 AM, #73
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