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DaevrynWed 15-Jul-09 09:14 PM
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#25685, "RE: having played 3 hero range evil conjies"


          


>I think your a little off based here. In the mid ranks I
>think both goodie and evil conjies are equally deadly.

What's your measure for deadly?

Can beat the other in a steel cage match? Sure, maybe.

Can manage more kills? No, evil's got that no contest. It's not even close.

>In the
>high ranks I think a conjie that can find abs is almost always
>better off with a demon.

I disagree here; there are some enemies I'd pick a devil for and some I'd pick a demon for. Which you prefer overall I think is a matter of style.

>As far as deadliness at hero... I wouldn't say devils/demons
>are any scarier then angels/archons the only difference is
>being able to use gaunts and thats a big difference, but if
>you remove the gaunt I would take angels/archons most of the
>time (although being ablew to custom tailor the type of demon
>to the type of foe is nice archangels are pretty damn good all
>around)

I think a devil is ridiculously deadlier than an archon; but that said, I don't think that's why you conjure an archon. They're incredibly good in their own way, but scary isn't what I'd call them.

Beyond that, I sort of agree with you here. I really like the versatility of demons, but angels are just pretty good all around for most things a good conjurer wants to fight, too.

But again, despite all of that, me playing an evil conjurer is going to leave me playing a good conjurer in the dust in terms of ability to make kills. It won't even be a race.

  

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HOT TopicMaking some classes more fun to play [View all] , Nightgaunt_, Wed 15-Jul-09 05:15 AM
Reply Also on the subject of Nightgaunts, Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 07:50 AM, #76
Reply If you mean the warrior that died within the last hour, incognito, 19-Jul-09 08:08 AM, #77
Reply RE: If you mean the warrior that died within the last h..., Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 08:43 AM, #80
     Reply There's always succumb, incognito, 19-Jul-09 08:43 AM, #82
          Reply RE: There's always succumb, Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 08:51 AM, #83
               Reply RE: There's always succumb, Daevryn, 19-Jul-09 08:56 AM, #84
               Reply You know what?, incognito, 19-Jul-09 09:02 AM, #85
Reply RE: Also on the subject of Nightgaunts, Daevryn, 19-Jul-09 08:20 AM, #79
     Reply RE: Also on the subject of Nightgaunts, Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 08:42 AM, #81
          Reply RE: Also on the subject of Nightgaunts, Turing, 19-Jul-09 12:20 PM, #87
Reply Evil conjie isn't that bad, incognito, 16-Jul-09 03:33 AM, #11
Reply Flawed logic., Turing, 16-Jul-09 10:11 AM, #21
     Reply RE: Flawed logic., Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 12:41 PM, #23
          Reply RE: Flawed logic., Turing, 16-Jul-09 03:59 PM, #24
          Reply RE: Flawed logic., Habbs, 16-Jul-09 04:06 PM, #27
          Reply RE: Flawed logic., Turing, 16-Jul-09 04:20 PM, #29
               Reply RE: Flawed logic., Habbs, 16-Jul-09 04:21 PM, #30
          Reply Umm, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:26 PM, #32
          Reply RE: Umm, Habbs, 16-Jul-09 04:29 PM, #35
               Reply Here's how I did it, incognito, 16-Jul-09 05:02 PM, #40
          Reply I'd also add, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:27 PM, #33
          Reply RE: I'd also add, Nightgaunt_, 16-Jul-09 05:24 PM, #41
               Reply RE: I'd also add, Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 06:31 PM, #44
               Reply RE: I'd also add, Xanthrailles, 18-Jul-09 09:05 PM, #73
               Reply seriously, incognito, 17-Jul-09 02:38 AM, #46
               Reply It is your responsibility to babysit the damn things., Scrimbul, 17-Jul-09 07:31 AM, #47
               Reply RE: It is your responsibility to babysit the damn thing..., Nightgaunt_, 17-Jul-09 09:46 AM, #48
               Reply This is funny., Turing, 17-Jul-09 06:28 PM, #50
                    Reply Razmorthin was ten times the player..., TMNS, 18-Jul-09 01:33 AM, #54
                         Reply WTF, Turing, 18-Jul-09 02:23 AM, #55
                              Reply Have you stated any facts that haven't been outright re..., TMNS, 18-Jul-09 03:36 AM, #59
                                   Reply RE: Have you stated any facts that haven't been outrigh..., Turing, 18-Jul-09 08:08 AM, #60
               Reply RE: It is your responsibility to babysit the damn thing..., Turing, 17-Jul-09 06:33 PM, #51
                    Reply You clearly don't know your stuff, incognito, 17-Jul-09 08:24 PM, #52
                    Reply Ah, the "you suck l2p argument", Turing, 18-Jul-09 02:30 AM, #56
                         Reply RE: Ah, the, incognito, 18-Jul-09 01:31 PM, #61
                              Reply Tell you what, incognito, 18-Jul-09 02:25 PM, #63
                                   Reply I'd like to see this, Lokain, 18-Jul-09 02:49 PM, #64
                                   Reply I can see why it could be frustrating, incognito, 18-Jul-09 04:11 PM, #68
                                   Reply RE: I'd like to see this, Nightgaunt_, 18-Jul-09 07:27 PM, #71
                                   Reply RE: I'd like to see this, Turing, 18-Jul-09 08:54 PM, #72
                                        Reply It's impossible not to, incognito, 19-Jul-09 08:10 AM, #78
                                             Reply RE: It's impossible not to, Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 09:03 AM, #86
                                                  Reply I'm talking about Turing, not you, incognito, 19-Jul-09 12:23 PM, #88
                                                       Reply RE: I'm talking about Turing, not you, Turing, 19-Jul-09 10:34 PM, #90
                                   Reply RE: I'd like to see this, Isildur, 18-Jul-09 10:59 PM, #74
                                   Reply RE: Tell you what, Turing, 18-Jul-09 02:58 PM, #65
                                        Reply Hold up your end of the bargain., Scrimbul, 18-Jul-09 03:05 PM, #66
                                        Reply RE: Hold up your end of the bargain., Turing, 18-Jul-09 06:41 PM, #69
                                        Reply I think..., Adekar, 19-Jul-09 07:04 PM, #89
                                        Reply I don't consider it to be "manning up", incognito, 18-Jul-09 03:34 PM, #67
                    Reply I learned more in one evil conjie than you learned in 5..., Scrimbul, 17-Jul-09 10:10 PM, #53
                         Reply Battle.net, Turing, 18-Jul-09 02:33 AM, #57
                              Reply He has, you're just too obstinate to see it., TMNS, 18-Jul-09 03:33 AM, #58
               Reply I hate when I'm playing a different game., Straklaw, 17-Jul-09 03:55 PM, #49
          Reply RE: Flawed logic., Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 06:28 PM, #43
          Reply Not what I'm saying either, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:24 PM, #31
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Daevryn, 15-Jul-09 11:54 AM, #2
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Valkenar, 15-Jul-09 02:45 PM, #3
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Isildur, 15-Jul-09 05:17 PM, #6
     Reply That's not entirely true though, Lokain, 15-Jul-09 07:25 PM, #7
          Reply RE: That's not entirely true though, Isildur, 15-Jul-09 09:31 PM, #9
               Reply Eh, Lokain, 15-Jul-09 11:32 PM, #10
               Reply You missed the point, Valkenar, 16-Jul-09 08:19 AM, #18
               Reply RE: You missed the point, Isildur, 16-Jul-09 09:09 AM, #19
                    Reply RE: You missed the point, Nightgaunt_, 16-Jul-09 09:46 AM, #20
                         Reply RE: You missed the point, Isildur, 16-Jul-09 10:43 AM, #22
                              Reply And then..., Turing, 16-Jul-09 04:00 PM, #25
               Reply I'd say they are not comparable, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:29 PM, #34
                    Reply RE: I'd say they are not comparable, Isildur, 16-Jul-09 08:24 PM, #45
                         Reply Paths isn't needed to compare, incognito, 18-Jul-09 01:45 PM, #62
                              Reply RE: Paths isn't needed to compare, Plushka, 18-Jul-09 07:19 PM, #70
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Nightgaunt_, 15-Jul-09 03:15 PM, #4
Reply having played 3 hero range evil conjies, laxman, 15-Jul-09 05:04 PM, #5
Reply RE: having played 3 hero range evil conjies, Daevryn, 15-Jul-09 09:14 PM #8
     Reply Quick question then..., Abernyte, 16-Jul-09 05:11 AM, #13
     Reply RE: Quick question then..., Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 07:49 AM, #16
     Reply Evil conjurers with a devil vs. good conjurers with an ..., Theerkla, 16-Jul-09 05:17 AM, #14
          Reply Archons are bad asses, Dwoggurd, 16-Jul-09 05:35 AM, #15
          Reply RE: Archons are bad asses, Turing, 16-Jul-09 04:04 PM, #26
               Reply I don't., incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:32 PM, #37
          Reply It's not as hard to kill archon-toters as claimed, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:30 PM, #36
Reply Being a scion makes a big difference nt, incognito, 16-Jul-09 03:34 AM, #12
Reply Yes and no:, Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 07:52 AM, #17
     Reply RE: Yes and no:, Turing, 16-Jul-09 04:13 PM, #28
          Reply Agree on this one, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:33 PM, #38
          Reply RE: Yes and no:, Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 06:26 PM, #42
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Plushka, 16-Jul-09 05:00 PM, #39
Reply I'd settle for making trappers simply playable!, Zizzle, 19-Jul-09 12:20 AM, #75
Reply invokers, Stunna, 15-Jul-09 11:38 AM, #1
     Reply RE: invokers, Onewingedangel, 22-Jul-09 07:00 PM, #91
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