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laxmanWed 15-Jul-09 05:04 PM
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#25681, "having played 3 hero range evil conjies"


          

"In some ways I may be in the minority here, but I think a well-played evil conjurer is so overwhelmingly powerful (and, especially for a devil conjurer, could realistically never look for any A/B/S and never miss it) that I'm hesitant to make them any stronger."

I think your a little off based here. In the mid ranks I think both goodie and evil conjies are equally deadly. In the high ranks I think a conjie that can find abs is almost always better off with a demon. The caveat being if they actually manage to keep a lesser ice devil at that high happy rating where they cast after fleeing people and when entering the room. if a devil is even slightly unhappy it has such a quick downgrading effect that its very very tough to get them re happy again because they actually cast so rarely that you need to flee because they ain't doing much and when you need to flee they get more unhappy and it becomes a quick and dangerous cycle.

personally i would feel better if you just removed the whole fleeing makes them mad part and left everything else alone, this would not increase their power cap any because they still need to be fighting a fair amount to stay happy and deadly it just makes devils more manageable. As for demons they are so easy to please if they turn on a character more then once or twice your just flat out not doing something right.

As far as deadliness at hero... I wouldn't say devils/demons are any scarier then angels/archons the only difference is being able to use gaunts and thats a big difference, but if you remove the gaunt I would take angels/archons most of the time (although being ablew to custom tailor the type of demon to the type of foe is nice archangels are pretty damn good all around)

  

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HOT TopicMaking some classes more fun to play [View all] , Nightgaunt_, Wed 15-Jul-09 05:15 AM
Reply Also on the subject of Nightgaunts, Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 07:50 AM, #76
Reply If you mean the warrior that died within the last hour, incognito, 19-Jul-09 08:08 AM, #77
Reply RE: If you mean the warrior that died within the last h..., Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 08:43 AM, #80
     Reply There's always succumb, incognito, 19-Jul-09 08:43 AM, #82
          Reply RE: There's always succumb, Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 08:51 AM, #83
               Reply RE: There's always succumb, Daevryn, 19-Jul-09 08:56 AM, #84
               Reply You know what?, incognito, 19-Jul-09 09:02 AM, #85
Reply RE: Also on the subject of Nightgaunts, Daevryn, 19-Jul-09 08:20 AM, #79
     Reply RE: Also on the subject of Nightgaunts, Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 08:42 AM, #81
          Reply RE: Also on the subject of Nightgaunts, Turing, 19-Jul-09 12:20 PM, #87
Reply Evil conjie isn't that bad, incognito, 16-Jul-09 03:33 AM, #11
Reply Flawed logic., Turing, 16-Jul-09 10:11 AM, #21
     Reply RE: Flawed logic., Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 12:41 PM, #23
          Reply RE: Flawed logic., Turing, 16-Jul-09 03:59 PM, #24
          Reply RE: Flawed logic., Habbs, 16-Jul-09 04:06 PM, #27
          Reply RE: Flawed logic., Turing, 16-Jul-09 04:20 PM, #29
               Reply RE: Flawed logic., Habbs, 16-Jul-09 04:21 PM, #30
          Reply Umm, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:26 PM, #32
          Reply RE: Umm, Habbs, 16-Jul-09 04:29 PM, #35
               Reply Here's how I did it, incognito, 16-Jul-09 05:02 PM, #40
          Reply I'd also add, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:27 PM, #33
          Reply RE: I'd also add, Nightgaunt_, 16-Jul-09 05:24 PM, #41
               Reply RE: I'd also add, Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 06:31 PM, #44
               Reply RE: I'd also add, Xanthrailles, 18-Jul-09 09:05 PM, #73
               Reply seriously, incognito, 17-Jul-09 02:38 AM, #46
               Reply It is your responsibility to babysit the damn things., Scrimbul, 17-Jul-09 07:31 AM, #47
               Reply RE: It is your responsibility to babysit the damn thing..., Nightgaunt_, 17-Jul-09 09:46 AM, #48
               Reply This is funny., Turing, 17-Jul-09 06:28 PM, #50
                    Reply Razmorthin was ten times the player..., TMNS, 18-Jul-09 01:33 AM, #54
                         Reply WTF, Turing, 18-Jul-09 02:23 AM, #55
                              Reply Have you stated any facts that haven't been outright re..., TMNS, 18-Jul-09 03:36 AM, #59
                                   Reply RE: Have you stated any facts that haven't been outrigh..., Turing, 18-Jul-09 08:08 AM, #60
               Reply RE: It is your responsibility to babysit the damn thing..., Turing, 17-Jul-09 06:33 PM, #51
                    Reply You clearly don't know your stuff, incognito, 17-Jul-09 08:24 PM, #52
                    Reply Ah, the "you suck l2p argument", Turing, 18-Jul-09 02:30 AM, #56
                         Reply RE: Ah, the, incognito, 18-Jul-09 01:31 PM, #61
                              Reply Tell you what, incognito, 18-Jul-09 02:25 PM, #63
                                   Reply I'd like to see this, Lokain, 18-Jul-09 02:49 PM, #64
                                   Reply I can see why it could be frustrating, incognito, 18-Jul-09 04:11 PM, #68
                                   Reply RE: I'd like to see this, Nightgaunt_, 18-Jul-09 07:27 PM, #71
                                   Reply RE: I'd like to see this, Turing, 18-Jul-09 08:54 PM, #72
                                        Reply It's impossible not to, incognito, 19-Jul-09 08:10 AM, #78
                                             Reply RE: It's impossible not to, Nightgaunt_, 19-Jul-09 09:03 AM, #86
                                                  Reply I'm talking about Turing, not you, incognito, 19-Jul-09 12:23 PM, #88
                                                       Reply RE: I'm talking about Turing, not you, Turing, 19-Jul-09 10:34 PM, #90
                                   Reply RE: I'd like to see this, Isildur, 18-Jul-09 10:59 PM, #74
                                   Reply RE: Tell you what, Turing, 18-Jul-09 02:58 PM, #65
                                        Reply Hold up your end of the bargain., Scrimbul, 18-Jul-09 03:05 PM, #66
                                        Reply RE: Hold up your end of the bargain., Turing, 18-Jul-09 06:41 PM, #69
                                        Reply I think..., Adekar, 19-Jul-09 07:04 PM, #89
                                        Reply I don't consider it to be "manning up", incognito, 18-Jul-09 03:34 PM, #67
                    Reply I learned more in one evil conjie than you learned in 5..., Scrimbul, 17-Jul-09 10:10 PM, #53
                         Reply Battle.net, Turing, 18-Jul-09 02:33 AM, #57
                              Reply He has, you're just too obstinate to see it., TMNS, 18-Jul-09 03:33 AM, #58
               Reply I hate when I'm playing a different game., Straklaw, 17-Jul-09 03:55 PM, #49
          Reply RE: Flawed logic., Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 06:28 PM, #43
          Reply Not what I'm saying either, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:24 PM, #31
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Daevryn, 15-Jul-09 11:54 AM, #2
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Valkenar, 15-Jul-09 02:45 PM, #3
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Isildur, 15-Jul-09 05:17 PM, #6
     Reply That's not entirely true though, Lokain, 15-Jul-09 07:25 PM, #7
          Reply RE: That's not entirely true though, Isildur, 15-Jul-09 09:31 PM, #9
               Reply Eh, Lokain, 15-Jul-09 11:32 PM, #10
               Reply You missed the point, Valkenar, 16-Jul-09 08:19 AM, #18
               Reply RE: You missed the point, Isildur, 16-Jul-09 09:09 AM, #19
                    Reply RE: You missed the point, Nightgaunt_, 16-Jul-09 09:46 AM, #20
                         Reply RE: You missed the point, Isildur, 16-Jul-09 10:43 AM, #22
                              Reply And then..., Turing, 16-Jul-09 04:00 PM, #25
               Reply I'd say they are not comparable, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:29 PM, #34
                    Reply RE: I'd say they are not comparable, Isildur, 16-Jul-09 08:24 PM, #45
                         Reply Paths isn't needed to compare, incognito, 18-Jul-09 01:45 PM, #62
                              Reply RE: Paths isn't needed to compare, Plushka, 18-Jul-09 07:19 PM, #70
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Nightgaunt_, 15-Jul-09 03:15 PM, #4
Reply having played 3 hero range evil conjies, laxman, 15-Jul-09 05:04 PM #5
Reply RE: having played 3 hero range evil conjies, Daevryn, 15-Jul-09 09:14 PM, #8
     Reply Quick question then..., Abernyte, 16-Jul-09 05:11 AM, #13
     Reply RE: Quick question then..., Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 07:49 AM, #16
     Reply Evil conjurers with a devil vs. good conjurers with an ..., Theerkla, 16-Jul-09 05:17 AM, #14
          Reply Archons are bad asses, Dwoggurd, 16-Jul-09 05:35 AM, #15
          Reply RE: Archons are bad asses, Turing, 16-Jul-09 04:04 PM, #26
               Reply I don't., incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:32 PM, #37
          Reply It's not as hard to kill archon-toters as claimed, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:30 PM, #36
Reply Being a scion makes a big difference nt, incognito, 16-Jul-09 03:34 AM, #12
Reply Yes and no:, Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 07:52 AM, #17
     Reply RE: Yes and no:, Turing, 16-Jul-09 04:13 PM, #28
          Reply Agree on this one, incognito, 16-Jul-09 04:33 PM, #38
          Reply RE: Yes and no:, Daevryn, 16-Jul-09 06:26 PM, #42
Reply RE: Making some classes more fun to play, Plushka, 16-Jul-09 05:00 PM, #39
Reply I'd settle for making trappers simply playable!, Zizzle, 19-Jul-09 12:20 AM, #75
Reply invokers, Stunna, 15-Jul-09 11:38 AM, #1
     Reply RE: invokers, Onewingedangel, 22-Jul-09 07:00 PM, #91
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