Umiron | Tue 27-Dec-16 01:45 PM |
Member since 29th May 2017
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#65991, "RE: What healer are you talking about?"
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I think there was more than one, but if so Shura definitely makes the list.
The rub of that is the fact that as things tend to play out, 9/10 people in the 11-25 range (and even higher, in some cases) tend to be woefully unprepared for an opponent that can gate. Those same people tend to be woefully unprepared for almost any "PK griefer/level-sitter/whatever" in that range, but gate is a bit of a special case because it dramatically reduces the number of options available to the healer's opponents.
Without the proggy gear a gate-murder healer is a lot less effective, but it's still got a ton of potential because at least half the people you jump for are going to be rocking fine leather, have no word/teleport potions, and likely have poor melee defense. Being able to locate and track victims that effectively at a time when most characters can't mitigate the damage or regenerate movement quickly enough means in the end you're going to win most of the time, and it's the distinction between you and some random warrior/thief/etc.
Plus there's the problem that for many of those would be victims, the only effective defense is not to play which makes the game less enjoyable for everyone. People tend to make this argument about any PK successful low/mid level character, but in this case it really isn't as simple as "go rank someplace else" or "carry a potion".
Props to Shaapa, I guess, if his "success" led to gate being adjusted to be less effective for offensive play, but regardless of whether or not that's actually how it went down I would argue was a logical and positive change.
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Assassins are broken.
[View all] , Athioles, Mon 26-Dec-16 08:45 AM
RE: Assassins are broken.,
SideStrider,
28-Dec-16 10:16 PM, #85
Assassin Solution,
Jormyr,
28-Dec-16 10:40 PM, #86
could start by tweaking the maledicts down,
Dallevian,
28-Dec-16 11:18 PM, #87
I'd propose the following,
Kstatida,
29-Dec-16 03:13 AM, #88
I dunno,
incognito,
29-Dec-16 05:02 AM, #89
Hey I think -30 maladicts are quite enough,
Kstatida,
29-Dec-16 05:48 AM, #90
FWIW - I don't think these complaints would be here if ...,
Sarien,
29-Dec-16 10:36 AM, #96
Easy. Get rid of the ground control edge.,
Quixotic,
29-Dec-16 11:34 AM, #97
Get rid of trance - keep the edge ;).,
Sarien,
29-Dec-16 02:01 PM, #99
You could code,
laxman,
29-Dec-16 06:45 PM, #102
RE: Assassins are broken.,
Humbert,
28-Dec-16 09:30 AM, #70
RE: Assassins are broken.,
Jormyr,
28-Dec-16 09:59 AM, #71
To a point, yeah,
N b M,
28-Dec-16 10:20 AM, #72
RE: Assassins are broken.,
Umiron,
28-Dec-16 10:54 AM, #74
RE: Assassins are broken.,
Jormyr,
28-Dec-16 12:34 PM, #76
Removing the class entirely would suck though. n/t,
Lhydia,
28-Dec-16 01:13 PM, #77
RE: Removing the class entirely would suck though. n/t,
N b M,
28-Dec-16 04:08 PM, #81
I would support the same rule for neuro/bash as well,
Humbert,
28-Dec-16 04:31 PM, #82
re: Orc,
Tac,
29-Dec-16 09:05 AM, #95
Yeah,
Marcus_,
27-Dec-16 09:19 PM, #56
Not sure if you've played assassin lately but...,
Lhydia,
27-Dec-16 11:07 PM, #57
RE: Assassins are broken.,
Jarmel,
27-Dec-16 04:20 PM, #50
Orc bash + SF + Cheap shot...,
Sarien,
27-Dec-16 04:43 PM, #52
RE: Orc bash + SF + Cheap shot...,
Jarmel,
27-Dec-16 06:50 PM, #55
Perfected savage feeding is BRUTAL.,
TMNS,
28-Dec-16 12:05 AM, #58
Assassins are fine.,
ice king,
27-Dec-16 01:46 PM, #45
Boom. n/t,
Lhydia,
27-Dec-16 02:00 PM, #46
RE: Assassins are fine.,
Jarmel,
27-Dec-16 04:22 PM, #51
Yes.,
ice king,
27-Dec-16 06:40 PM, #54
What you seem to ignore,
incognito,
28-Dec-16 07:39 AM, #65
A few random thoughts:,
Umiron,
27-Dec-16 11:15 AM, #40
It's those master edges that feel broken.,
Murphy,
27-Dec-16 12:17 AM, #36
Agreed,
Calion,
27-Dec-16 12:17 PM, #42
I like the one that lets me vanish better. n/t,
Lhydia,
27-Dec-16 01:02 PM, #43
I have this feeling that Nep would laugh at you,
-flso,
26-Dec-16 11:32 PM, #35
With all due respect.,
Athioles,
27-Dec-16 03:05 AM, #37
Remove martial trance. n/t,
Saagkri,
26-Dec-16 10:51 PM, #33
Ground control is the key,
DeathIncarnate,
26-Dec-16 06:04 PM, #28
Am I the only one that mostly uses trip? n/t,
Lhydia,
26-Dec-16 06:18 PM, #30
People should take notes about this,
Destuvius,
26-Dec-16 04:50 PM, #26
No doubt. ,
TMNS,
28-Dec-16 12:06 AM, #59
Everyone inspires you to roll another Transmuter.,
Onewingedangel,
28-Dec-16 07:03 PM, #84
Don't bother (n/t),
N b M,
26-Dec-16 04:32 PM, #24
Well, we've talked about this a bunch...,
TMNS,
26-Dec-16 03:56 PM, #20
You are good at pk.,
Lhydia,
26-Dec-16 02:39 PM, #13
he'd die a lot without hide,
Dallevian,
26-Dec-16 03:30 PM, #18
I don't know about 'a lot".,
Athioles,
27-Dec-16 04:15 AM, #39
What race was Sindrir?,
ice king,
27-Dec-16 02:30 PM, #47
Shaapa got gate nerfed and was one reason Healers got n...,
TMNS,
26-Dec-16 03:59 PM, #22
What healer are you talking about?,
Navarone1984,
26-Dec-16 04:36 PM, #25
RE: What healer are you talking about?,
Umiron,
27-Dec-16 01:45 PM #44
Or tweak dex changes,
incognito,
26-Dec-16 02:35 PM, #11
This as well,
Kstatida,
26-Dec-16 02:40 PM, #15
Fwiw,
Destuvius,
26-Dec-16 04:07 PM, #23
Thing is, that axespec should be duergar,
Kstatida,
26-Dec-16 06:00 PM, #27
A few points.,
Athioles,
27-Dec-16 03:07 AM, #38
3 makes me mad :(,
TMNS,
28-Dec-16 12:08 AM, #60
RE: Fwiw,
incognito,
26-Dec-16 06:08 PM, #29
WM is opposite of high str,
Destuvius,
26-Dec-16 06:58 PM, #31
I have a better proposal,
Kstatida,
26-Dec-16 11:42 AM, #10
Are you playing an assassin?,
incognito,
26-Dec-16 02:37 PM, #12
I don't think that's a problem,
Kstatida,
26-Dec-16 02:39 PM, #14
RE: I don't think that's a problem,
incognito,
26-Dec-16 02:45 PM, #17
Which I think should be more available as well,
Kstatida,
28-Dec-16 03:22 AM, #63
Some disagreement,
Jormyr,
26-Dec-16 11:07 AM, #6
I largely agree with your analysis,
Kstatida,
26-Dec-16 11:16 AM, #7
RE: I largely agree with your analysis,
Destuvius,
26-Dec-16 11:28 AM, #8
This is true,
Kstatida,
26-Dec-16 11:38 AM, #9
What's that quote?,
TMNS,
28-Dec-16 12:09 AM, #61
RE: Some disagreement,
incognito,
26-Dec-16 02:43 PM, #16
Heh.,
TMNS,
26-Dec-16 03:54 PM, #19
Scion despoiled transmuters were breaking the game, reg...,
-flso,
26-Dec-16 11:20 PM, #34
I had 60 pks at the level you get duo with a transmuter...,
TMNS,
28-Dec-16 12:12 AM, #62
RE: Some disagreement,
Isildur,
26-Dec-16 08:56 PM, #32
RE: Some disagreement,
incognito,
27-Dec-16 11:35 AM, #41
RE: Some disagreement,
Isildur,
27-Dec-16 03:57 PM, #48
Edged throw + ground control will hit DEMO DEMO.,
TMNS,
27-Dec-16 04:10 PM, #49
RE: Edged throw + ground control will hit DEMO DEMO.,
Isildur,
27-Dec-16 04:53 PM, #53
OMG BUT THEY WILL TRIP,
Lhydia,
28-Dec-16 07:31 AM, #64
We're not seeing more of their abilities.,
Navarone1984,
28-Dec-16 08:07 AM, #66
Once again.,
Lhydia,
28-Dec-16 08:27 AM, #67
Ok, that's fine.,
Navarone1984,
28-Dec-16 08:37 AM, #68
RE: Ok, that's fine.,
Lhydia,
28-Dec-16 08:58 AM, #69
Really? Trip?,
Murphy,
28-Dec-16 10:53 AM, #73
Yeah but most people don't use trip.,
Navarone1984,
28-Dec-16 11:37 AM, #75
RE: Yeah but most people don't use trip.,
Destuvius,
28-Dec-16 01:13 PM, #78
With no edges,
incognito,
28-Dec-16 02:34 PM, #79
One round lag on missed trip.,
Lhydia,
28-Dec-16 03:18 PM, #80
Lies. You only play paladins. NT,
TMNS,
28-Dec-16 05:07 PM, #83
Umm what?,
Kstatida,
29-Dec-16 05:49 AM, #91
No, Jalim speaks the truth.,
Murphy,
29-Dec-16 05:57 AM, #92
Not entirely correct. Maybe 1.5?,
Tac,
29-Dec-16 08:55 AM, #93
1.(6) or thereabouts. (nt),
Umiron,
29-Dec-16 09:03 AM, #94
Holy Molly!,
Kstatida,
29-Dec-16 12:44 PM, #98
New like 1994...,
Sarien,
29-Dec-16 04:09 PM, #100
As an assassin, I prefer throw,
Kstatida,
29-Dec-16 05:02 PM, #101
Much respect to you,
Humbert,
26-Dec-16 10:57 AM, #5
Balrahd kinda did with Ktaar :),
TMNS,
26-Dec-16 03:57 PM, #21
Any thoughts on edges maybe?,
Kstatida,
26-Dec-16 10:18 AM, #1
RE: Any thoughts on edges maybe?,
Athioles,
26-Dec-16 10:25 AM, #2
Didn't you know? Throw doesn't win fights.,
Navarone1984,
26-Dec-16 10:25 AM, #3
You mistake throw for deathblow,
Kstatida,
26-Dec-16 10:32 AM, #4
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