I feel qualified to comment on this now that I just played my second long term assassin. My first went 179-4, my second 206-6 (pbf will have to confirm, that's just from my records). Now I'll say I'm good at pk. I don't know that I'm 385-10 good.

I split time between the two. Cainasir was mostly a rank sitter who used assassinate and Nazarates was mostly dedicated to hero range who did not use assassinate *at all*. I felt insanely OP at both ranges. Did sigil help? Sure. Did I need it? No.

Throw is better than any lagging attack warriors get. Their defenses (especially with a certain buki) let me go through warriors like a knife through butter. Kote/kans/axe kick/ground control gives way too much juice. I could go on but it's been rehashed a dozen times.

After Cainasir I recommended some edges be moved and they were. It helped but not enough. After Naz I'd recommend the following:

Remove the following skills:
Endure: make assassins gear for saves an ac if they want it.
Poison darts: make assassins fight groups without being able to confuse.

Move the following skills:
Throw: Move it to 30. Force lowbie assassins to use kicks and trip to lag.
Ground Control: Move it to 42. It completely wrecks the middle ranges.

Radical solution:
Make assassins limited like minotaurs/azures.


Just my two cents. There's a reason why the recent kills list on dios is now 80% assassins. They just have too many tricks for almost every single situation they encounter.