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SplntrdTue 17-Aug-10 01:19 PM
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#34654, "RE: Locked Threads"


          

>>I'm sick of seeing one sentence responses and locked
>threads,
>>with responses like "Players like you don't DESERVE the
>whole
>>story." He's clearly not advocating for himself, but the
>>entire playerbase.
>
>Was kinda covered, dude was given a title and chose to whine
>about it in a prayer. From my veiwpoint, brought it on
>himself by going ooc.

It was covered begrudgingly. But I'm also not talking specifically about today's incident, although that inspired the post.

>Not our game though is it? We get to play it, for free no
>less, and thats what the forums are supposed to give, some
>input, but hell there has been a lot of whining as of late,
>and to me it mostly seems like folk with thier nose out of
>joint because everything is not going thier way.

Except, it IS our game. It's not much of a game without players, and all the Imms are ALSO players. So they have as much to lose by alienating the playerbase as the players do.


>Why should they have to respond to something posted on another
>site?

I never said they had to. Look at these boards alone and tell me they're good at crisis control.

>Again, my take, these volunteers are spending thier own
>time to make the game for us, if you don't like the
>decisions, get into a position to do something about it, and
>while youre at it take some of the wieght from thier
>shoulders.

Just because they're volunteers doesn't mean they're immune to criticism. That's stupid. They've taken on responsibilities to the players of the game. If they're going to lord over us the way they do, then they should at least TRY to fulfill those responsibilities.

>>It's like you're not even trying anymore. And that doesn't
>>exactly inspire ME to try to be a good player. If our admins
>>don't care about taking our concerns seriously, why should
>we
>>care about the game at all?
>
>See above.

Again, I don't believe volunteerism is an excuse for making bad decisions, especially when writing constructive forum posts isn't any harder than writing non-constructive ones.

>>If there's one thing that will kill a game faster than any
>>other, it's a crappy staff. And maybe you guys are wonderful
>>coders, roleplayers, and rules enforcers, but you're goddamn
>>awful at handling playerbase drama, and that's a cancer you
>>have to control if you want a playable game a year or two
>from
>>now.
>
>I reckon there are a few folk who on the other hand are superb
>at creating drama, its all about reading between the lines in
>my opinion.

Irrelevent. EVERY game has drama whores. And every administration (volunteer or not) has to have a strategy for dealing with them, or they'll drag a game into the ground. Some strategies are better than others. This administration has chosen a bad one.

Splntrd

  

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HOT TopicRE: Locked Threads [View all] , Splntrd, Wed 18-Aug-10 10:50 PM
Reply Bottom line, Hopelessdwarf, 18-Aug-10 07:21 PM, #79
Reply Summary., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 03:46 PM, #48
Reply Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Knac, 18-Aug-10 04:04 PM, #49
Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:10 PM, #50
     Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Knac, 18-Aug-10 04:37 PM, #56
          Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:48 PM, #59
          Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 04:52 PM, #60
               Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 05:00 PM, #62
               Reply What you guys should do in this situation.., Knac, 18-Aug-10 05:06 PM, #64
               Reply RE: What you guys should do in this situation.., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 06:01 PM, #70
               Reply I don't feel thats entirely accurate., Gaplemo, 18-Aug-10 06:42 PM, #73
               Reply You're not allowed to enter into this thread., sleepy, 19-Aug-10 12:42 AM, #84
          Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Elerosse, 18-Aug-10 06:34 PM, #72
Reply RE: Summary., sorlag (Anonymous), 18-Aug-10 04:13 PM, #51
Reply Well thought out response, I will return mine in kind., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:24 PM, #52
     Reply Thuul, Pro, 18-Aug-10 05:46 PM, #66
     Reply RE: Thuul, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 05:52 PM, #67
          Reply My point, Pro, 18-Aug-10 06:00 PM, #69
               Reply I'm pretty sure you already ranted about Thuul, sleepy, 19-Aug-10 12:44 AM, #85
                    Reply That wasn't the consensus. n/t, Pro, 19-Aug-10 03:57 AM, #89
                         Reply RE: That wasn't the consensus. n/t, Lyristeon, 19-Aug-10 06:04 AM, #92
                              Reply No it wasn't and still isn't. n/t, Pro, 19-Aug-10 02:55 PM, #99
     Reply RE: Well thought out response, I will return mine in ki..., _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 04:41 PM, #83
          Reply RE: Well thought out response, I will return mine in ki..., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:44 PM, #58
          Reply Just to point something out..., Eskelian, 19-Aug-10 01:06 AM, #86
          Reply I actually had no idea about the title until afterwards..., TMNS, 18-Aug-10 07:07 PM, #76
Reply RE: Summary., _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 04:36 PM, #55
Reply RE: Summary., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:58 PM, #61
     Reply RE: Summary., _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 05:13 PM, #63
          Reply RE: Summary., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 05:58 PM, #68
               Reply RE: Summary., _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 06:07 PM, #71
               Reply RE: Summary., Hutto, 19-Aug-10 02:28 PM, #97
Reply we're all human and we all make mistakes, MoetEtChandon, 18-Aug-10 04:44 PM, #57
Reply FWIW, I didn't lock it and don't know who did. nt, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:54 PM, #81
Reply To be honest, you're a great IMM but a god-awful poster..., TMNS, 18-Aug-10 07:08 PM, #78
Reply RE: Summary., HammerSong, 18-Aug-10 07:29 PM, #80
Reply Speaking as a newbie..., defrost, 18-Aug-10 04:20 AM, #22
Reply Define newbie, restraint, polite behavior. n/t, Pro, 18-Aug-10 10:50 AM, #32
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Malakhi, 18-Aug-10 03:29 AM, #20
Reply My reasonable alternative:, Bubthegreat, 18-Aug-10 03:59 AM, #21
Reply ... No., Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 09:52 AM, #31
     Reply RE: ... No., Bubthegreat, 18-Aug-10 02:04 PM, #40
Reply On the offhand chance you're genuinely interested., Eskelian, 18-Aug-10 08:08 AM, #23
Reply This. nt, Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 09:19 AM, #28
Reply FATALITY n/t, Pro, 18-Aug-10 01:09 PM, #38
Reply Agreement?, Malakhi, 18-Aug-10 01:45 PM, #39
Reply RE: Agreement?, Eskelian, 18-Aug-10 02:17 PM, #42
     Reply RE: Agreement?, Isildur, 18-Aug-10 10:33 PM, #82
     Reply RE: Agreement?, Eskelian, 19-Aug-10 01:13 AM, #87
     Reply RE: Agreement?, Lyristeon, 19-Aug-10 06:03 AM, #91
     Reply I can't believe how much I don't agree with you these d..., Pro, 19-Aug-10 03:50 AM, #88
          Reply RE: I can't believe how much I don't agree with you the..., Lyristeon, 19-Aug-10 06:02 AM, #90
               Reply Can't believe I'm defending Pro., Eskelian, 19-Aug-10 08:39 AM, #93
                    Reply RE: Can't believe I'm defending Pro., Lyristeon, 19-Aug-10 09:43 AM, #95
     Reply RE: Agreement?, Malakhi, 19-Aug-10 02:42 PM, #98
Reply RE: On the offhand chance you're genuinely interested., Isildur, 18-Aug-10 03:21 PM, #43
     Reply Think about this also, Knac, 18-Aug-10 03:41 PM, #46
Reply RE: Locked Threads, ORB, 18-Aug-10 08:29 AM, #24
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Malakhi, 18-Aug-10 02:09 PM, #41
     Reply RE: Locked Threads, ORB, 18-Aug-10 03:41 PM, #47
     Reply Quick thought., TMNS, 18-Aug-10 07:00 PM, #75
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Hutto, 19-Aug-10 02:19 PM, #96
Reply At this point its like a bad marriage.., Kadsuane, 17-Aug-10 08:38 PM, #17
Reply Bring all the lawyers you want...I'll still get custody..., Zulghinlour, 18-Aug-10 03:26 PM, #44
     Reply Le sigh n/t , Kadsuane, 18-Aug-10 05:39 PM, #65
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Isildur, 17-Aug-10 03:33 PM, #10
Reply Correct on both accounts (n/t), Zulghinlour, 18-Aug-10 03:27 PM, #45
     Reply Fine we'll go start our own with Hookers and Blackjack!..., ORB, 18-Aug-10 04:30 PM, #54
          Reply Hookers and Blackjack eh?, Zulghinlour, 18-Aug-10 06:54 PM, #74
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Nnaeshuk, 17-Aug-10 02:55 PM, #9
Reply Some people just have long toes, MoetEtChandon, 17-Aug-10 04:47 PM, #12
Reply Totally., Guilo, 17-Aug-10 05:22 PM, #13
     Reply So duper duper cosign., TMNS, 17-Aug-10 07:13 PM, #16
          Reply Agreed, Torak, 17-Aug-10 10:44 PM, #18
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Hutto, 17-Aug-10 02:29 PM, #8
Reply RE: Locked Threads, wareagle, 17-Aug-10 01:43 PM, #7
Reply I'm all for locked threads, incognito, 17-Aug-10 01:29 PM, #5
Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Splntrd, 17-Aug-10 01:37 PM, #6
Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Anliltuel (Anonymous), 17-Aug-10 05:37 PM, #14
     Reply You could just have said it was my posts, Torak, 17-Aug-10 11:29 PM, #19
     Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Eskelian, 18-Aug-10 08:33 AM, #25
     Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Anliltuel (Anonymous), 18-Aug-10 09:01 AM, #27
          Reply You're on crack., Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 09:39 AM, #29
          Reply I didn't think it'd be too much trouble..., Anliltuel (Anonymous), 18-Aug-10 09:49 AM, #30
               Reply In retrospect..., Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 10:55 AM, #33
          Reply You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes., Pro, 18-Aug-10 11:13 AM, #34
          Reply You're not helping., Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 11:16 AM, #35
          Reply RE: You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes..., Anliltuel (Anonymous), 18-Aug-10 07:08 PM, #77
               Reply RE: You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes..., Eskelian, 19-Aug-10 08:55 AM, #94
          Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Eskelian, 18-Aug-10 12:59 PM, #37
     Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, ORB, 18-Aug-10 08:34 AM, #26
     Reply The term 'Champion' is poorly chosen, MoetEtChandon, 18-Aug-10 04:25 PM, #53
Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Pendragon_Surtr, 17-Aug-10 03:43 PM, #11
Reply RE: Locked Threads, ORB, 17-Aug-10 12:59 PM, #3
Reply RE: Locked Threads, HammerSong, 17-Aug-10 06:24 PM, #15
Reply RE: Locked Threads, flatline, 17-Aug-10 12:27 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Locked Threads, sorlag (Anonymous), 17-Aug-10 12:37 PM, #2
     Reply Lyr's response to you was unwarranted., Pro, 18-Aug-10 12:49 PM, #36
     Reply RE: Locked Threads, Splntrd, 17-Aug-10 01:19 PM #4
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