Lyristeon | Wed 18-Aug-10 04:24 PM |
Member since 02nd Jan 2004
1282 posts
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#34708, "Well thought out response, I will return mine in kind."
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>A couple things: > >I don't necessarily understand why, from a purely IC >perspective, an (IC) Immortal would come on somehow for this. >Based on how you described things, I get the feeling this is a >staff member using IC mechanisms to punish them for something >that YOU think is lame (hoarding), but isn't necessarily bad >RP and is not, as far as I can tell, against the rules.
Correct. The player in question was not brought into the Realm of the Dead for any rule breaking.
> >So, as I understand it, it went down like this: >1) You notice a guy hoarding eq. It's not against the rules >and the character has no role entries or other virtues that >would make hoarding "bad RP" AFAIK.
No role entries to make it good rping either. Also, it was noted by another imm that the character was seen possibly hoarding gear a month ago as well. Some of it the same or may have been similar gear.
> >2) You don't like this. Maybe other Imms don't like it. You >use IC mechanisms to bust his chops.
It isn't about like or dislike. It's about what is observed of how a character who chose the sphere he chose and the method he used that go against his sphere to gather some of the items.
> >3) Dude takes it the wrong way and it becomes an issue. Nasty >mess ensues. > >I certainly realize it isn't the player base's prerogative to >tell you guys how to do your jobs and that WE shouldn't >dictate policy. That said, it seems like a pattern is >developing, which is the transition from #2 to #3.
The playerbase recently posted a whole thread on how they aren't getting enough immteraction. Guess why I came back?
> >So... I'm simply going to throw out there as calmly and >politely as I can the idea that the staff consider how well #2 >has been working out for them lately and how much lame #3 it >leads to and think about maybe working on that.
Here's a thought. A player sees something odd and rps it out for the odd chance it may lead to having fun!
> >Perhaps you could introduce some helpfiles that elaborate on >some of the "not quite against the rules, but still >problematic" issues, or maybe just pull these people aside and >talk to them face-to-face instead of trying to handle it with > let's face it, negative) RP, which commonly upsets people.
How about this, "If you aren't brought to the realm of the dead for a rules violation, play the game, it may lead to having fun!"
> >You'd be absolutely right if you said you shouldn't have to do >that or that those people are a minority and just aren't >"worth it", but at the end of the day, addressing the fact >that the aforementioned scenario seems to go poorly often >enouogh, there might be some PR value in reevaluating how >that's handled. It's not that you're not right, you probably >are in the right, but if situations like this can be avoided >by making an adjustment that is within your control to do, >maybe that's worth it if it means less drama llamas.
90% of the playerbase appreciates the opportunity. I will continue to try to make this game more fun. If the other 10% want to think the worst before trying to have fun, I don't have to apologize for their bad judgment. > >I REALLY hope this doesn't come off as a rant, because that >isn't my intention.
Good post.
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RE: Locked Threads
[View all] , Splntrd, Wed 18-Aug-10 10:50 PM
Bottom line,
Hopelessdwarf,
18-Aug-10 07:21 PM, #79
Summary.,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 03:46 PM, #48
Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Knac,
18-Aug-10 04:04 PM, #49
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:10 PM, #50
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Knac,
18-Aug-10 04:37 PM, #56
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:48 PM, #59
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 04:52 PM, #60
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 05:00 PM, #62
What you guys should do in this situation..,
Knac,
18-Aug-10 05:06 PM, #64
RE: What you guys should do in this situation..,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 06:01 PM, #70
I don't feel thats entirely accurate.,
Gaplemo,
18-Aug-10 06:42 PM, #73
You're not allowed to enter into this thread.,
sleepy,
19-Aug-10 12:42 AM, #84
RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse,
Elerosse,
18-Aug-10 06:34 PM, #72
RE: Summary.,
sorlag (Anonymous),
18-Aug-10 04:13 PM, #51
Well thought out response, I will return mine in kind.,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:24 PM #52
Thuul,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 05:46 PM, #66
RE: Thuul,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 05:52 PM, #67
My point,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 06:00 PM, #69
I'm pretty sure you already ranted about Thuul,
sleepy,
19-Aug-10 12:44 AM, #85
That wasn't the consensus. n/t,
Pro,
19-Aug-10 03:57 AM, #89
RE: That wasn't the consensus. n/t,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 06:04 AM, #92
No it wasn't and still isn't. n/t,
Pro,
19-Aug-10 02:55 PM, #99
RE: Well thought out response, I will return mine in ki...,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 04:41 PM, #83
RE: Well thought out response, I will return mine in ki...,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:44 PM, #58
Just to point something out...,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 01:06 AM, #86
I actually had no idea about the title until afterwards...,
TMNS,
18-Aug-10 07:07 PM, #76
RE: Summary.,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 04:36 PM, #55
RE: Summary.,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:58 PM, #61
RE: Summary.,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 05:13 PM, #63
RE: Summary.,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 05:58 PM, #68
RE: Summary.,
_Magus_,
18-Aug-10 06:07 PM, #71
RE: Summary.,
Hutto,
19-Aug-10 02:28 PM, #97
we're all human and we all make mistakes,
MoetEtChandon,
18-Aug-10 04:44 PM, #57
FWIW, I didn't lock it and don't know who did. nt,
Lyristeon,
18-Aug-10 04:54 PM, #81
To be honest, you're a great IMM but a god-awful poster...,
TMNS,
18-Aug-10 07:08 PM, #78
RE: Summary.,
HammerSong,
18-Aug-10 07:29 PM, #80
Speaking as a newbie...,
defrost,
18-Aug-10 04:20 AM, #22
Define newbie, restraint, polite behavior. n/t,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 10:50 AM, #32
RE: Locked Threads,
Malakhi,
18-Aug-10 03:29 AM, #20
My reasonable alternative:,
Bubthegreat,
18-Aug-10 03:59 AM, #21
... No.,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 09:52 AM, #31
RE: ... No.,
Bubthegreat,
18-Aug-10 02:04 PM, #40
On the offhand chance you're genuinely interested.,
Eskelian,
18-Aug-10 08:08 AM, #23
This. nt,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 09:19 AM, #28
FATALITY n/t,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 01:09 PM, #38
Agreement?,
Malakhi,
18-Aug-10 01:45 PM, #39
RE: Agreement?,
Eskelian,
18-Aug-10 02:17 PM, #42
RE: Agreement?,
Isildur,
18-Aug-10 10:33 PM, #82
RE: Agreement?,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 01:13 AM, #87
RE: Agreement?,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 06:03 AM, #91
I can't believe how much I don't agree with you these d...,
Pro,
19-Aug-10 03:50 AM, #88
RE: I can't believe how much I don't agree with you the...,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 06:02 AM, #90
Can't believe I'm defending Pro.,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 08:39 AM, #93
RE: Can't believe I'm defending Pro.,
Lyristeon,
19-Aug-10 09:43 AM, #95
RE: Agreement?,
Malakhi,
19-Aug-10 02:42 PM, #98
RE: On the offhand chance you're genuinely interested.,
Isildur,
18-Aug-10 03:21 PM, #43
Think about this also,
Knac,
18-Aug-10 03:41 PM, #46
RE: Locked Threads,
ORB,
18-Aug-10 08:29 AM, #24
RE: Locked Threads,
Malakhi,
18-Aug-10 02:09 PM, #41
RE: Locked Threads,
ORB,
18-Aug-10 03:41 PM, #47
Quick thought.,
TMNS,
18-Aug-10 07:00 PM, #75
RE: Locked Threads,
Hutto,
19-Aug-10 02:19 PM, #96
At this point its like a bad marriage..,
Kadsuane,
17-Aug-10 08:38 PM, #17
Bring all the lawyers you want...I'll still get custody...,
Zulghinlour,
18-Aug-10 03:26 PM, #44
Le sigh n/t ,
Kadsuane,
18-Aug-10 05:39 PM, #65
RE: Locked Threads,
Isildur,
17-Aug-10 03:33 PM, #10
Correct on both accounts (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
18-Aug-10 03:27 PM, #45
Fine we'll go start our own with Hookers and Blackjack!...,
ORB,
18-Aug-10 04:30 PM, #54
Hookers and Blackjack eh?,
Zulghinlour,
18-Aug-10 06:54 PM, #74
RE: Locked Threads,
Nnaeshuk,
17-Aug-10 02:55 PM, #9
Some people just have long toes,
MoetEtChandon,
17-Aug-10 04:47 PM, #12
Totally.,
Guilo,
17-Aug-10 05:22 PM, #13
So duper duper cosign.,
TMNS,
17-Aug-10 07:13 PM, #16
Agreed,
Torak,
17-Aug-10 10:44 PM, #18
RE: Locked Threads,
Hutto,
17-Aug-10 02:29 PM, #8
RE: Locked Threads,
wareagle,
17-Aug-10 01:43 PM, #7
I'm all for locked threads,
incognito,
17-Aug-10 01:29 PM, #5
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Splntrd,
17-Aug-10 01:37 PM, #6
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
17-Aug-10 05:37 PM, #14
You could just have said it was my posts,
Torak,
17-Aug-10 11:29 PM, #19
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Eskelian,
18-Aug-10 08:33 AM, #25
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
18-Aug-10 09:01 AM, #27
You're on crack.,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 09:39 AM, #29
I didn't think it'd be too much trouble...,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
18-Aug-10 09:49 AM, #30
In retrospect...,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 10:55 AM, #33
You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes.,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 11:13 AM, #34
You're not helping.,
Splntrd,
18-Aug-10 11:16 AM, #35
RE: You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes...,
Anliltuel (Anonymous),
18-Aug-10 07:08 PM, #77
RE: You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes...,
Eskelian,
19-Aug-10 08:55 AM, #94
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Eskelian,
18-Aug-10 12:59 PM, #37
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
ORB,
18-Aug-10 08:34 AM, #26
The term 'Champion' is poorly chosen,
MoetEtChandon,
18-Aug-10 04:25 PM, #53
RE: I'm all for locked threads,
Pendragon_Surtr,
17-Aug-10 03:43 PM, #11
RE: Locked Threads,
ORB,
17-Aug-10 12:59 PM, #3
RE: Locked Threads,
HammerSong,
17-Aug-10 06:24 PM, #15
RE: Locked Threads,
flatline,
17-Aug-10 12:27 PM, #1
RE: Locked Threads,
sorlag (Anonymous),
17-Aug-10 12:37 PM, #2
Lyr's response to you was unwarranted.,
Pro,
18-Aug-10 12:49 PM, #36
RE: Locked Threads,
Splntrd,
17-Aug-10 01:19 PM, #4
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