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MalakhiWed 18-Aug-10 03:29 AM
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#34676, "RE: Locked Threads"


          

>If there's one thing that will kill a game faster than any
>other, it's a crappy staff. And maybe you guys are wonderful
>coders, roleplayers, and rules enforcers, but you're goddamn
>awful at handling playerbase drama, and that's a cancer you
>have to control if you want a playable game a year or two from
>now.


That is an extremely vague and ambiguous statement, and not very helpful. What is your alternative for "handling playerbase drama"?

My understanding from reading a few of these responses is that some players want the official forum equivalent of a public court of law. Where IMMs create something like a dedicated forum for players to bring their complaints about punishments, and the IMMs are compelled to respond with logs and arguments. And then presumably the rest of the playerbase gets to weigh in like a jury of peers. That is incredibly onerous and will never happen. I am a litigator in real life, and it is the most stressful and time consuming job I have ever held - and there is no way in Hell I would subject myself to that kind of stress unless I got paid well for it. I think it's *extremely* unreasonable and lacks perspective to expect CF IMMs to have to spend their time and energy like that - it would mean no more CF IMMs.

I'm assuming you don't like my favorite alternatives, which would be to simply ban the malcontents who aren't even players anymore and hope the playerbase mods would moderate these types, as well. And personally, although I have an aversion to the melodrama, I can understand it when it's coming from players - the posts that really irk me are the ones from non-players who, driven by motivations I don't entirely understand, just try to stoke the flames of aggression. What do you do with non-constructive, abrasive/negative comments from people who don't even play the game?

So what's your reasonable alternative to locking threads.

  

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HOT TopicRE: Locked Threads [View all] , Splntrd, Wed 18-Aug-10 10:50 PM
Reply Bottom line, Hopelessdwarf, 18-Aug-10 07:21 PM, #79
Reply Summary., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 03:46 PM, #48
Reply Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Knac, 18-Aug-10 04:04 PM, #49
Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:10 PM, #50
     Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Knac, 18-Aug-10 04:37 PM, #56
          Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:48 PM, #59
          Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 04:52 PM, #60
               Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 05:00 PM, #62
               Reply What you guys should do in this situation.., Knac, 18-Aug-10 05:06 PM, #64
               Reply RE: What you guys should do in this situation.., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 06:01 PM, #70
               Reply I don't feel thats entirely accurate., Gaplemo, 18-Aug-10 06:42 PM, #73
               Reply You're not allowed to enter into this thread., sleepy, 19-Aug-10 12:42 AM, #84
          Reply RE: Sorry, you need to get off your high horse, Elerosse, 18-Aug-10 06:34 PM, #72
Reply RE: Summary., sorlag (Anonymous), 18-Aug-10 04:13 PM, #51
Reply Well thought out response, I will return mine in kind., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:24 PM, #52
     Reply Thuul, Pro, 18-Aug-10 05:46 PM, #66
     Reply RE: Thuul, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 05:52 PM, #67
          Reply My point, Pro, 18-Aug-10 06:00 PM, #69
               Reply I'm pretty sure you already ranted about Thuul, sleepy, 19-Aug-10 12:44 AM, #85
                    Reply That wasn't the consensus. n/t, Pro, 19-Aug-10 03:57 AM, #89
                         Reply RE: That wasn't the consensus. n/t, Lyristeon, 19-Aug-10 06:04 AM, #92
                              Reply No it wasn't and still isn't. n/t, Pro, 19-Aug-10 02:55 PM, #99
     Reply RE: Well thought out response, I will return mine in ki..., _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 04:41 PM, #83
          Reply RE: Well thought out response, I will return mine in ki..., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:44 PM, #58
          Reply Just to point something out..., Eskelian, 19-Aug-10 01:06 AM, #86
          Reply I actually had no idea about the title until afterwards..., TMNS, 18-Aug-10 07:07 PM, #76
Reply RE: Summary., _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 04:36 PM, #55
Reply RE: Summary., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:58 PM, #61
     Reply RE: Summary., _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 05:13 PM, #63
          Reply RE: Summary., Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 05:58 PM, #68
               Reply RE: Summary., _Magus_, 18-Aug-10 06:07 PM, #71
               Reply RE: Summary., Hutto, 19-Aug-10 02:28 PM, #97
Reply we're all human and we all make mistakes, MoetEtChandon, 18-Aug-10 04:44 PM, #57
Reply FWIW, I didn't lock it and don't know who did. nt, Lyristeon, 18-Aug-10 04:54 PM, #81
Reply To be honest, you're a great IMM but a god-awful poster..., TMNS, 18-Aug-10 07:08 PM, #78
Reply RE: Summary., HammerSong, 18-Aug-10 07:29 PM, #80
Reply Speaking as a newbie..., defrost, 18-Aug-10 04:20 AM, #22
Reply Define newbie, restraint, polite behavior. n/t, Pro, 18-Aug-10 10:50 AM, #32
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Malakhi, 18-Aug-10 03:29 AM #20
Reply My reasonable alternative:, Bubthegreat, 18-Aug-10 03:59 AM, #21
Reply ... No., Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 09:52 AM, #31
     Reply RE: ... No., Bubthegreat, 18-Aug-10 02:04 PM, #40
Reply On the offhand chance you're genuinely interested., Eskelian, 18-Aug-10 08:08 AM, #23
Reply This. nt, Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 09:19 AM, #28
Reply FATALITY n/t, Pro, 18-Aug-10 01:09 PM, #38
Reply Agreement?, Malakhi, 18-Aug-10 01:45 PM, #39
Reply RE: Agreement?, Eskelian, 18-Aug-10 02:17 PM, #42
     Reply RE: Agreement?, Isildur, 18-Aug-10 10:33 PM, #82
     Reply RE: Agreement?, Eskelian, 19-Aug-10 01:13 AM, #87
     Reply RE: Agreement?, Lyristeon, 19-Aug-10 06:03 AM, #91
     Reply I can't believe how much I don't agree with you these d..., Pro, 19-Aug-10 03:50 AM, #88
          Reply RE: I can't believe how much I don't agree with you the..., Lyristeon, 19-Aug-10 06:02 AM, #90
               Reply Can't believe I'm defending Pro., Eskelian, 19-Aug-10 08:39 AM, #93
                    Reply RE: Can't believe I'm defending Pro., Lyristeon, 19-Aug-10 09:43 AM, #95
     Reply RE: Agreement?, Malakhi, 19-Aug-10 02:42 PM, #98
Reply RE: On the offhand chance you're genuinely interested., Isildur, 18-Aug-10 03:21 PM, #43
     Reply Think about this also, Knac, 18-Aug-10 03:41 PM, #46
Reply RE: Locked Threads, ORB, 18-Aug-10 08:29 AM, #24
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Malakhi, 18-Aug-10 02:09 PM, #41
     Reply RE: Locked Threads, ORB, 18-Aug-10 03:41 PM, #47
     Reply Quick thought., TMNS, 18-Aug-10 07:00 PM, #75
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Hutto, 19-Aug-10 02:19 PM, #96
Reply At this point its like a bad marriage.., Kadsuane, 17-Aug-10 08:38 PM, #17
Reply Bring all the lawyers you want...I'll still get custody..., Zulghinlour, 18-Aug-10 03:26 PM, #44
     Reply Le sigh n/t , Kadsuane, 18-Aug-10 05:39 PM, #65
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Isildur, 17-Aug-10 03:33 PM, #10
Reply Correct on both accounts (n/t), Zulghinlour, 18-Aug-10 03:27 PM, #45
     Reply Fine we'll go start our own with Hookers and Blackjack!..., ORB, 18-Aug-10 04:30 PM, #54
          Reply Hookers and Blackjack eh?, Zulghinlour, 18-Aug-10 06:54 PM, #74
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Nnaeshuk, 17-Aug-10 02:55 PM, #9
Reply Some people just have long toes, MoetEtChandon, 17-Aug-10 04:47 PM, #12
Reply Totally., Guilo, 17-Aug-10 05:22 PM, #13
     Reply So duper duper cosign., TMNS, 17-Aug-10 07:13 PM, #16
          Reply Agreed, Torak, 17-Aug-10 10:44 PM, #18
Reply RE: Locked Threads, Hutto, 17-Aug-10 02:29 PM, #8
Reply RE: Locked Threads, wareagle, 17-Aug-10 01:43 PM, #7
Reply I'm all for locked threads, incognito, 17-Aug-10 01:29 PM, #5
Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Splntrd, 17-Aug-10 01:37 PM, #6
Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Anliltuel (Anonymous), 17-Aug-10 05:37 PM, #14
     Reply You could just have said it was my posts, Torak, 17-Aug-10 11:29 PM, #19
     Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Eskelian, 18-Aug-10 08:33 AM, #25
     Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Anliltuel (Anonymous), 18-Aug-10 09:01 AM, #27
          Reply You're on crack., Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 09:39 AM, #29
          Reply I didn't think it'd be too much trouble..., Anliltuel (Anonymous), 18-Aug-10 09:49 AM, #30
               Reply In retrospect..., Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 10:55 AM, #33
          Reply You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes., Pro, 18-Aug-10 11:13 AM, #34
          Reply You're not helping., Splntrd, 18-Aug-10 11:16 AM, #35
          Reply RE: You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes..., Anliltuel (Anonymous), 18-Aug-10 07:08 PM, #77
               Reply RE: You pretty much invaidated your argument in my eyes..., Eskelian, 19-Aug-10 08:55 AM, #94
          Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Eskelian, 18-Aug-10 12:59 PM, #37
     Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, ORB, 18-Aug-10 08:34 AM, #26
     Reply The term 'Champion' is poorly chosen, MoetEtChandon, 18-Aug-10 04:25 PM, #53
Reply RE: I'm all for locked threads, Pendragon_Surtr, 17-Aug-10 03:43 PM, #11
Reply RE: Locked Threads, ORB, 17-Aug-10 12:59 PM, #3
Reply RE: Locked Threads, HammerSong, 17-Aug-10 06:24 PM, #15
Reply RE: Locked Threads, flatline, 17-Aug-10 12:27 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Locked Threads, sorlag (Anonymous), 17-Aug-10 12:37 PM, #2
     Reply Lyr's response to you was unwarranted., Pro, 18-Aug-10 12:49 PM, #36
     Reply RE: Locked Threads, Splntrd, 17-Aug-10 01:19 PM, #4
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