>I haven't played a necro in a long, long time, but last time I
>checked you failed every time when trying to animate a corpse
>more than a few levels higher than you. Was I on crack?

Yup. That's never been the case.

>Or is
>it just that that one item I saw a necro using is considered
>baseline necro now?

Not sure.

>Still, if your experience as a level 25
>necro is going 20 rounds against a warrior, that experience is
>night and day from mine on either side of that matchup.

Generally they can't -- you're chasing a point I wasn't trying to make.

I understand Daurwyn to be saying, essentially, that no matter how good you are, if any amount of command denial can kill you, eventually a warrior will manage against you -- eventually that 20 rounds of perfect bashing in a row will happen even if you're a good but not quite good enough tank. The point I was trying to make is that I think the perfect storm of necromancer conditions isn't that rare compared to that kind of "I'm some kind of really good tank (non-necromancer) character, and it takes a ridiculous amount of bash to kill me, but sometimes it happens."

I mean, hell, I got killed by a necromancer once because I fled, teleported (main continent) and ended up less than ten rooms away. I could have teleported again after that but I didn't get the chance. I don't think it's fair to say that the warrior can get really lucky if that's what it takes, but the necromancer can't also get lucky, and it doesn't take the ten-rooms-away luck.