>4. I would never enter a explore area without a guy that knows
>it as a leader, because the time would be so valuable that I
>dont have the time to just #### around.

That's so goddamned lame it makes my kidneys hurt. I would never want to go to an explore area with an experienced leader, unless he's going to keep his mouth shut except when we're all about to get killed for sure. Why would you want to go to an explore area, where the whole point is to solve quests, face challenges and *explore* if you have someone who takes all of that away? if you just want to see a quest solved, and a challenged faced, go read a book. The point of quests in CF is that you get to solve the quest, not read about it being solved in your presence.

>Not aware of the incident and I'm sure there are cheaters in
>#dangeroom but I dont think Leud is one. Except for the odd
>perma ranking group here and there.

The place is a horrid pit of cheating. Leud does cheat, he's admits to doing things that are cheating, he just won't admit they're cheating, or plays it off as not mattering because it's not Really Serious Cheating.

>And no Valg I dont hate the imms or you, belive it or not.
>This is no damn war between players and imms and you dont need
>to hate and insult the players for trying to find solutions to
>the problem.

This thread doesn't look like players problem-solving. It looks like people whining and crying because they have a sense of entitlement to quests they solved with other characters (and I bet a few of the people here just want their OOC quest info sharing to work better).

It's ridiculous to say you're getting screwed because the quest you've always done doesn't give you the same reward anymore. And the newbies/first time quest explorers aren't the ones who are going to be getting killed, because they'll be going more slowly and paying attention to what's going on.

Re: guilt by association:
In a perfect world, everyone is evaluated indiviudally. But since real life people can't possibly do that, they have to make best guesses. Best guess is that if you frequent the library, you're someone who reads. If you frequent IRC, best guess is that you're a cheater.
It might not be true, but it would be pretty stupid to guess that the guy who visits the library every monday doesn't read, even if you never actually catch him with a book.

Bottom line: The imms make this game, and are within their rights in doing whatever they want (with the game) to protect their time/energy/emotional investment.