But those are pretty hated by the player base too, you only hear the "former cheaters" and you pretty much think they should shut up because of old sins. But if you remove or make them invite only alot of what is cf will disappear as it becomes such a project just to go to an explore area.

Boo hoo. You'd have to think for yourself. Cry me a river.

And sometimes there is anal players who posts solutions and I know some are spreading them to their friends(and belive me those never appear on "public" places like dangeroom until someone freaks out, ie arolin.)

As far as blaming Arolin, one incident I'm referring to is recent, didn't involve an Aussie to my knowledge, and stayed up for a while despite how obviously against our rules it is. So I don't feel bad at all for calling the people who maintain the channel cheating ####s, and you won't see any apologies from me. It does real damage to the game, and don't come here and cry to us when quests or areas get pulled because of it.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com