>But those are pretty hated by the player base too, you only hear the "former cheaters" and you pretty much think they should shut up because of old sins. But if you remove or make them invite only alot of what is cf will disappear as it becomes such a project just to go to an explore area.

>Boo hoo. You'd have to think for yourself. Cry me a river.

Ok, I will cry you a river then.

1. Most of my playing time happens around late morning, european time. That would be around 4-5 in the morning game time.

2. Most of the quest area writers seems inactive and I dont know how eager others is to let me and my group into their area.

3. I would really really think it over before going into a quest area because belive it or not I dont want to waste imm time. It has happened that I've gone alone or taken with me a friend or two(Yes, ic friends belive it or not) and failed miserabely, may it be no idea how to figure out a quest to get past the very beginning(silent) or just dying fast as hell(silent). That in my opinion would be a pretty disrespectful to the imms that have probably decided to be on just to let me enter their area.

4. I would never enter a explore area without a guy that knows it as a leader, because the time would be so valuable that I dont have the time to just #### around. It's not like the sanctioned trips to hell have been much other than, get me the regen rings and some other neat stuff.

>As far as blaming Arolin, one incident I'm referring to is recent, didn't involve an Aussie to my knowledge, and stayed up for a while despite how obviously against our rules it is. So I don't feel bad at all for calling the people who maintain the channel cheating ####s, and you won't see any apologies from me. It does real damage to the game, and don't come here and cry to us when quests or areas get pulled because of it.

Not aware of the incident and I'm sure there are cheaters in #dangeroom but I dont think Leud is one. Except for the odd perma ranking group here and there.



And no Valg I dont hate the imms or you, belive it or not. This is no damn war between players and imms and you dont need to hate and insult the players for trying to find solutions to the problem.