>Well I just wanted to voice my opinion and such about these
>because, well hell I am sick of it.
>
>First off I want to say that the imms do a great job but I
>still have a serious gripe.

Take out "serious" and we can start.

>Im currently playing a shifter because I wanted to give on a
>go again and see what the new spells are like and the lack of
>spamming and I have gotten pretty high in the ranks. Yet I
>think this is really sad, I chose offense as my major forms
>and am really REALLY dissappointed with them now im sorry to
>say.

This made me chuckle.

>I mean I see offense forms as being able to hit hard or alot
>compared to other shifters and that is why they study
>offensive beasts. Yet my first tier form NEVER did CAPs
>damage, which apart from finding it impossible to find a group
>really wasnt that bad.

Wow...really...because doing cap damage at level 19 with a mage wouldn't be overpowered at all...

>Then I get my second form and yes, it
>is a step up but not all that much, I had it until low 30s.

Oddly enough...that to is by design...

>But what is worse is when I get my third tier offense form. No
>offense guys but it sucks. I got the ocelot, which I heard was
>supposed to be great,

We'll take it point by point...

>I wasnt able to tank one mob to give me any decent ranking with a group

Oh my god...an OFFENSE form couldn't tank, wonder why that is...oh yeah...because DEFENSE forms can tank.

>and the MOST i ever hit was 4 times a round and the highest I hit
>was for dismembers with the VERY rare massacre.

Which I can say is probably more than any other non-offense form of the same tier.

>This really sucked, because I had it until past rank 45. I mean
>sure, its not supposed to tank because its offense, but I mean
>hitting the same as a camelot geared warrior at the same rank is
>just stupid.

Yes...it almost makes sense to compare a shapeshifting mage to a warrior. Oh wait...no it doesn't.

>But I figure, hell these forms have been pretty sucky as far as I
>thought offense would be, but I bet the last tier form will be
>great.........I really think it sucks. I got the tiger, it
>hits worse then the golden jaguar (which I had, and although
>it wasnt the greatest it had a bite that made them bleed
>sometimes and -str) compared to my tiger, which hits softer,
>tanks about the same and has the almight POUNCE which only
>goes off a third of the time.

I honestly don't believe I'm hearing someone bitch about the tiger. It actually can tank unlike many of the offense forms, and yes...pounce is mighty. I'm pretty sure alot of people would agree that tiger is a good offense form (Couple it with an air form and it can actually be sickening).

>I mean I dont want to bitch and all but for gollies sake. Its an
>offense form that is worse the util forms in fighting.

Define fighting...offense? defense? You seem to want the best of all worlds...and an offense major is not that.

>*sigh* alright thats the end of my rant, but can I ask if any
>imms are looking in to evening up the forms or something?

Sure...I keep track of forms all the time, and right now they are pretty much where we want them.

>I mean there was a suggestion on dios which I kinda liked, and
>that was that you let people pick what forms they learnt and
>also fixed them so like all the offense forms were on equal
>par in hitting and such, as were the water and so on and so
>forth. I mean that way, if all the last forms of a path are
>all equal then there will be the same diversity as it being
>random, right?

It's not something the imms are looking at doing. Enough classes get to pick and choose things, this one we're keeping random.

>Well just a suggestion.....but the tiger really is making me
>want to delete.........thanks anyway, and perhaps shifters
>just arent my thing. Oh and I forgot to say, yes I got all my
>forms to confident so it wasnt my skill level in them
>lacking........

Yes...perhaps shifters aren't your thing.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!