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SaagkriTue 30-Apr-19 05:03 PM
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#73029, "RE: Ok, here's the full quote."


          

Ish: Where does this us v them feeling come from? I don't see it.
Me: Here's what Umiron said (quotes Umiron)
Ish: Liar! Fake news!

Umiron's post was clear. In response to a player saying that the admins should be keeping the game fun and playable, he states:

1. CF is something a handful of people (IMMs) do "first and foremost" for their own enjoyment. "First and foremost" means before any other consideration which includes the enjoyment of players. The fact that he refers to it as a "hobby" has no bearing on his meaning.

2. CF is not something he feels we (the IMMs) "owe" anyone.

3. It's more an "art" than a business in that "we don't care how many paintings we sell". He's saying that CF is not consumer driven (consumers being the players) and that the IMMs being satisfied with what they're doing is what matters. This reinforces the first point.

You are the one mis-characterizing what he said. The fist sentence of what he said is an accurate summary of what he was trying to convey which is why I used it.

If he was only expressing his passion for what he did (which would not have addressed the original point to which he was replying) why would he preface it with this "isn't what some of you want to hear..."

Lastly, why do you feel the need to twist yourself into knots to decipher Umiron's meaning when if he didn't mean it he could just say so himself?

  

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HOT Locked TopicGeneral Disgruntledness [View all] , Homard, Tue 30-Apr-19 02:59 PM
Reply Lets just end this whole thing right here..., Destuvius, 01-May-19 03:42 AM, #55
Reply Your response to his apology was not cool nt, incognito, 01-May-19 01:08 AM, #47
Reply RE: General Disgruntledness, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:36 PM, #31
Reply Here's a nice piece of constructive feedback, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:41 AM, #48
Reply RE: General Disgruntledness, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #8
Reply I don’t care enough dude. , Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:41 PM, #11
Reply RE: I don’t care enough dude. , Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:45 PM, #13
     Reply Because, Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:47 PM, #14
     Reply RE: Because, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:01 PM, #19
     Reply How can you hope to, Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:49 PM, #15
          Reply RE: How can you hope to, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:03 PM, #20
               Reply Oh it’s silly lingo now?, Homard, 30-Apr-19 04:07 PM, #21
               Reply RE: Oh it’s silly lingo now?, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:11 PM, #22
                    Reply You don’t know me Ish..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 04:12 PM, #24
               Reply Every time I prayed to Jormyr I expected an smite-greet..., Cointreau, 30-Apr-19 07:02 PM, #32
                    Reply RE: Every time I prayed to Jormyr I expected an smite-g..., Rahsael, 30-Apr-19 07:32 PM, #34
Reply It's my fault, Rahsael, 30-Apr-19 07:31 PM, #33
     Reply If you attack someone with no RP involved you’re..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 07:42 PM, #35
          Reply Wow. You're a ####ing moron dude. nt, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 08:07 PM, #36
          Reply What did I do now, Rob? n/t, Homard, 30-Apr-19 08:17 PM, #37
               Reply You're acting like an insane piece of ####, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 08:44 PM, #38
                    Reply Take your meds. , Homard, 30-Apr-19 08:58 PM, #39
                    Reply I am uninvolved with this situation too., Lhydia, 30-Apr-19 09:10 PM, #40
                    Reply What really motivated this thread..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 10:01 PM, #41
                         Reply Scarab muter dropping f bomb, Lhydia, 30-Apr-19 10:58 PM, #42
                         Reply We can all learn from our mistakes!, Murphy, 30-Apr-19 11:44 PM, #45
                              Reply RE: We can all learn from our mistakes!, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:50 AM, #51
                    Reply Also uninvolved, Artificial, 30-Apr-19 11:35 PM, #43
                    Reply I'm seeing an interesting trend, Murphy, 30-Apr-19 11:41 PM, #44
                         Reply I think this thread shows why Imms don't apologize more..., Java, 01-May-19 01:43 AM, #49
                              Reply It would in my case., Murphy, 01-May-19 02:57 AM, #54
          Reply Chill, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:52 AM, #52
Reply FWIW I don't think that was me., Daphedee, 30-Apr-19 03:36 PM, #7
Reply Yeah..., robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 03:27 PM, #3
Reply RE: Yeah..., Jhyrbian, 30-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #5
Reply RE: Yeah..., JohnEveryMan, 30-Apr-19 04:21 PM, #6
Reply Nah, I always have a reason., Daphedee, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #10
     Reply Sorry I got it wrong., robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:15 PM, #28
Reply That sucks, Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:20 PM, #1
     Reply RE: That sucks, Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:25 PM, #2
     Reply RE: That sucks, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #4
          Reply Your mileage may vary..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #9
          Reply RE: Your mileage may vary..., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:51 PM, #16
          Reply Dude, look at this thread. YOU are the cause of that me..., Java, 01-May-19 01:49 AM, #50
          Reply I don't spread false narratives., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:45 PM, #12
          Reply RE: I don't spread false narratives., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:00 PM, #18
               Reply Ok, here's the full quote., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 04:23 PM, #23
               Reply RE: Ok, here's the full quote., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:40 PM, #25
                    Reply RE: Ok, here's the full quote., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 05:03 PM #26
                    Reply "words mean whatever I want them to mean" nt, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:09 PM, #27
                         Reply "I can't read and don't word good", Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 05:21 PM, #29
                              Reply It's good to admit that. (n/t), JohnEveryMan, 30-Apr-19 05:26 PM, #30
                    Reply You are very wrong here, Kstatida, 01-May-19 02:14 AM, #53
               Reply Re: the additional context of having worked with Umi, Murphy, 01-May-19 12:54 AM, #46
          Reply Unfortunately, is not false, Kstatida, 30-Apr-19 03:52 PM, #17
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