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SaagkriTue 30-Apr-19 04:10 PM
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#73023, "Ok, here's the full quote."
Edited on Tue 30-Apr-19 04:23 PM

          

He states his thesis in the first sentence. In the second sentence he states that the first is the simple truth. I haven't misrepresented anything. His theses is not a "fake headline" nor does it mean anything other than exactly what he meant by it.

So, here is the full quote (which you could have included but didn't) and people can see if the context changes the meaning (it doesn't). I don't appreciate the implication that I am trying to deceive anyone by quoting Umiron's own words accurately.

"I know this probably isn't what some of you want to hear, but at the end of the day CF always has and probably always will be something that a handful of people do as a hobby for their own enjoyment first and foremost, and that anyone bothers to play it is icing on the cake. That isn't meant to sound selfish, egotistical or rude, it's just the truth. CF is not a product or a startup or something that I feel like we "owe" anyone. A handful of people have years of sweat equity in CF and as long as they/we remain passionate about our game it stands to reason we would continue to develop the kind of game that we get satisfaction from creating. In that sense, it's more an art than a business (which people often try to analogize CF with) in that we do it because we enjoy it, not because we care of anyone buys our paintings. Handing over the keys to someone else, letting players drive us away, or simply letting a vocal few dictate our choices so that the thing we're passionate about and personally invested in might be more appealing to a subset of our players just doesn't make any sense."

Edit: For even more context, this was a reply to someone who complained about "Blame shifting "fun"-ness of the game to vitriolic players, and not the admins responsible for keeping a game fun and playable.

So, someone suggests that it's the admin's job to keep the game fun and enjoyable for players. Umi responds that the admin does what they do for their enjoyment and if the players like it it's icing on the cake. So, the paraphrase and the quote I gave meant exactly what they appeared to mean. They were not "cherry-picked", "out of context" nor "false".

  

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HOT Locked TopicGeneral Disgruntledness [View all] , Homard, Tue 30-Apr-19 02:59 PM
Reply Lets just end this whole thing right here..., Destuvius, 01-May-19 03:42 AM, #55
Reply Your response to his apology was not cool nt, incognito, 01-May-19 01:08 AM, #47
Reply RE: General Disgruntledness, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:36 PM, #31
Reply Here's a nice piece of constructive feedback, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:41 AM, #48
Reply RE: General Disgruntledness, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #8
Reply I don’t care enough dude. , Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:41 PM, #11
Reply RE: I don’t care enough dude. , Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:45 PM, #13
     Reply Because, Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:47 PM, #14
     Reply RE: Because, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:01 PM, #19
     Reply How can you hope to, Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:49 PM, #15
          Reply RE: How can you hope to, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:03 PM, #20
               Reply Oh it’s silly lingo now?, Homard, 30-Apr-19 04:07 PM, #21
               Reply RE: Oh it’s silly lingo now?, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:11 PM, #22
                    Reply You don’t know me Ish..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 04:12 PM, #24
               Reply Every time I prayed to Jormyr I expected an smite-greet..., Cointreau, 30-Apr-19 07:02 PM, #32
                    Reply RE: Every time I prayed to Jormyr I expected an smite-g..., Rahsael, 30-Apr-19 07:32 PM, #34
Reply It's my fault, Rahsael, 30-Apr-19 07:31 PM, #33
     Reply If you attack someone with no RP involved you’re..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 07:42 PM, #35
          Reply Wow. You're a ####ing moron dude. nt, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 08:07 PM, #36
          Reply What did I do now, Rob? n/t, Homard, 30-Apr-19 08:17 PM, #37
               Reply You're acting like an insane piece of ####, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 08:44 PM, #38
                    Reply Take your meds. , Homard, 30-Apr-19 08:58 PM, #39
                    Reply I am uninvolved with this situation too., Lhydia, 30-Apr-19 09:10 PM, #40
                    Reply What really motivated this thread..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 10:01 PM, #41
                         Reply Scarab muter dropping f bomb, Lhydia, 30-Apr-19 10:58 PM, #42
                         Reply We can all learn from our mistakes!, Murphy, 30-Apr-19 11:44 PM, #45
                              Reply RE: We can all learn from our mistakes!, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:50 AM, #51
                    Reply Also uninvolved, Artificial, 30-Apr-19 11:35 PM, #43
                    Reply I'm seeing an interesting trend, Murphy, 30-Apr-19 11:41 PM, #44
                         Reply I think this thread shows why Imms don't apologize more..., Java, 01-May-19 01:43 AM, #49
                              Reply It would in my case., Murphy, 01-May-19 02:57 AM, #54
          Reply Chill, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:52 AM, #52
Reply FWIW I don't think that was me., Daphedee, 30-Apr-19 03:36 PM, #7
Reply Yeah..., robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 03:27 PM, #3
Reply RE: Yeah..., Jhyrbian, 30-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #5
Reply RE: Yeah..., JohnEveryMan, 30-Apr-19 04:21 PM, #6
Reply Nah, I always have a reason., Daphedee, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #10
     Reply Sorry I got it wrong., robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:15 PM, #28
Reply That sucks, Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:20 PM, #1
     Reply RE: That sucks, Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:25 PM, #2
     Reply RE: That sucks, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #4
          Reply Your mileage may vary..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #9
          Reply RE: Your mileage may vary..., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:51 PM, #16
          Reply Dude, look at this thread. YOU are the cause of that me..., Java, 01-May-19 01:49 AM, #50
          Reply I don't spread false narratives., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:45 PM, #12
          Reply RE: I don't spread false narratives., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:00 PM, #18
               Reply Ok, here's the full quote., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 04:23 PM #23
               Reply RE: Ok, here's the full quote., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:40 PM, #25
                    Reply RE: Ok, here's the full quote., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 05:03 PM, #26
                    Reply "words mean whatever I want them to mean" nt, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:09 PM, #27
                         Reply "I can't read and don't word good", Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 05:21 PM, #29
                              Reply It's good to admit that. (n/t), JohnEveryMan, 30-Apr-19 05:26 PM, #30
                    Reply You are very wrong here, Kstatida, 01-May-19 02:14 AM, #53
               Reply Re: the additional context of having worked with Umi, Murphy, 01-May-19 12:54 AM, #46
          Reply Unfortunately, is not false, Kstatida, 30-Apr-19 03:52 PM, #17
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