Saagkri | Tue 30-Apr-19 04:10 PM |
Member since 17th Jun 2014
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#73023, "Ok, here's the full quote."
Edited on Tue 30-Apr-19 04:23 PM
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He states his thesis in the first sentence. In the second sentence he states that the first is the simple truth. I haven't misrepresented anything. His theses is not a "fake headline" nor does it mean anything other than exactly what he meant by it.
So, here is the full quote (which you could have included but didn't) and people can see if the context changes the meaning (it doesn't). I don't appreciate the implication that I am trying to deceive anyone by quoting Umiron's own words accurately.
"I know this probably isn't what some of you want to hear, but at the end of the day CF always has and probably always will be something that a handful of people do as a hobby for their own enjoyment first and foremost, and that anyone bothers to play it is icing on the cake. That isn't meant to sound selfish, egotistical or rude, it's just the truth. CF is not a product or a startup or something that I feel like we "owe" anyone. A handful of people have years of sweat equity in CF and as long as they/we remain passionate about our game it stands to reason we would continue to develop the kind of game that we get satisfaction from creating. In that sense, it's more an art than a business (which people often try to analogize CF with) in that we do it because we enjoy it, not because we care of anyone buys our paintings. Handing over the keys to someone else, letting players drive us away, or simply letting a vocal few dictate our choices so that the thing we're passionate about and personally invested in might be more appealing to a subset of our players just doesn't make any sense."
Edit: For even more context, this was a reply to someone who complained about "Blame shifting "fun"-ness of the game to vitriolic players, and not the admins responsible for keeping a game fun and playable.
So, someone suggests that it's the admin's job to keep the game fun and enjoyable for players. Umi responds that the admin does what they do for their enjoyment and if the players like it it's icing on the cake. So, the paraphrase and the quote I gave meant exactly what they appeared to mean. They were not "cherry-picked", "out of context" nor "false".
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General Disgruntledness
[View all] , Homard, Tue 30-Apr-19 02:59 PM
Lets just end this whole thing right here...,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 03:42 AM, #55
Your response to his apology was not cool nt,
incognito,
01-May-19 01:08 AM, #47
RE: General Disgruntledness,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 05:36 PM, #31
Here's a nice piece of constructive feedback,
Kstatida,
01-May-19 01:41 AM, #48
RE: General Disgruntledness,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #8
I don’t care enough dude. ,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 03:41 PM, #11
RE: I don’t care enough dude. ,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 03:45 PM, #13
Because,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 03:47 PM, #14
RE: Because,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 04:01 PM, #19
How can you hope to,
Saagkri,
30-Apr-19 03:49 PM, #15
RE: How can you hope to,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 04:03 PM, #20
Oh it’s silly lingo now?,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 04:07 PM, #21
RE: Oh it’s silly lingo now?,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 04:11 PM, #22
You don’t know me Ish...,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 04:12 PM, #24
Every time I prayed to Jormyr I expected an smite-greet...,
Cointreau,
30-Apr-19 07:02 PM, #32
RE: Every time I prayed to Jormyr I expected an smite-g...,
Rahsael,
30-Apr-19 07:32 PM, #34
It's my fault,
Rahsael,
30-Apr-19 07:31 PM, #33
If you attack someone with no RP involved you’re...,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 07:42 PM, #35
Wow. You're a ####ing moron dude. nt,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 08:07 PM, #36
What did I do now, Rob? n/t,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 08:17 PM, #37
You're acting like an insane piece of ####,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 08:44 PM, #38
Take your meds. ,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 08:58 PM, #39
I am uninvolved with this situation too.,
Lhydia,
30-Apr-19 09:10 PM, #40
What really motivated this thread...,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 10:01 PM, #41
Scarab muter dropping f bomb,
Lhydia,
30-Apr-19 10:58 PM, #42
We can all learn from our mistakes!,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 11:44 PM, #45
RE: We can all learn from our mistakes!,
Kstatida,
01-May-19 01:50 AM, #51
Also uninvolved,
Artificial,
30-Apr-19 11:35 PM, #43
I'm seeing an interesting trend,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 11:41 PM, #44
I think this thread shows why Imms don't apologize more...,
Java,
01-May-19 01:43 AM, #49
It would in my case.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 02:57 AM, #54
Chill,
Kstatida,
01-May-19 01:52 AM, #52
FWIW I don't think that was me.,
Daphedee,
30-Apr-19 03:36 PM, #7
Yeah...,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 03:27 PM, #3
RE: Yeah...,
Jhyrbian,
30-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #5
RE: Yeah...,
JohnEveryMan,
30-Apr-19 04:21 PM, #6
Nah, I always have a reason.,
Daphedee,
30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #10
Sorry I got it wrong.,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 05:15 PM, #28
That sucks,
Saagkri,
30-Apr-19 03:20 PM, #1
RE: That sucks,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 03:25 PM, #2
RE: That sucks,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #4
Your mileage may vary...,
Homard,
30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #9
RE: Your mileage may vary...,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 03:51 PM, #16
Dude, look at this thread. YOU are the cause of that me...,
Java,
01-May-19 01:49 AM, #50
I don't spread false narratives.,
Saagkri,
30-Apr-19 03:45 PM, #12
RE: I don't spread false narratives.,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 04:00 PM, #18
Ok, here's the full quote.,
Saagkri,
30-Apr-19 04:23 PM #23
RE: Ok, here's the full quote.,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 04:40 PM, #25
RE: Ok, here's the full quote.,
Saagkri,
30-Apr-19 05:03 PM, #26
"words mean whatever I want them to mean" nt,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 05:09 PM, #27
"I can't read and don't word good",
Saagkri,
30-Apr-19 05:21 PM, #29
It's good to admit that. (n/t),
JohnEveryMan,
30-Apr-19 05:26 PM, #30
You are very wrong here,
Kstatida,
01-May-19 02:14 AM, #53
Re: the additional context of having worked with Umi,
Murphy,
01-May-19 12:54 AM, #46
Unfortunately, is not false,
Kstatida,
30-Apr-19 03:52 PM, #17
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