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IshuliTue 30-Apr-19 04:00 PM
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#73018, "RE: I don't spread false narratives."


          

You conveniently left off the rest of what Umiron posted that explained the context as an idea of art vs. product, emphasizing the statement wasn't about selfish/ego/rudeness.

He didn't say it's for the "enjoyment of the imms" as in some sole-selfish focus of self-admiration. It's that it's a labor of love. And I can relate to that. I love the work I've done on CF. I've put a lot of time in it. I'd keep doing it EVEN IF no players played, as it is something I'm genuinely enamored with. When I've stuck in a new area that I spent months working on, I am already happy. When players are exploring it and kicking butt, dying, or reading descs - I'm even happier, it really is the icing on the cake for me. I don't expect anyone to love it the way I do, and I am not entitled to expect them to.

I think you're purposefully and vastly misrepresenting what he said. Your repetitious nature of the clipped version is disingenuous.

BUT I admit I have the additional context of having worked with Umi. He does a thankless job and has dealt with my errors with nothing but patience. He gives feedback, bluntly (which is a good thing), but is game to help. He keeps the servers running, and sets up things other folks don't even think of. So with that context, I know he doesn't view it as a creation of ego. He cares about it too. It's not a hobby for enjoyment to the extent of playing in my own little play-room. The door is unlocked and folks can come enjoy what we've made whenever they like. When they do, I appreciate it and am happy. When they don't, I'll keep slaving away working on it because I think it's damned awesome.

So yes, what you're saying is false, what Umi said isn't. It's like a fake news headline misrepresenting the actual dialogue.

And it DOES bother me because I engage, DAILY, in a way that shows how false that representation is. Seems pointless to keep the server online and operating if nobody gives a #### if people play , so it's insanely simple to see how misrepresented the statement is.

-Ish

  

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HOT Locked TopicGeneral Disgruntledness [View all] , Homard, Tue 30-Apr-19 02:59 PM
Reply Lets just end this whole thing right here..., Destuvius, 01-May-19 03:42 AM, #55
Reply Your response to his apology was not cool nt, incognito, 01-May-19 01:08 AM, #47
Reply RE: General Disgruntledness, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:36 PM, #31
Reply Here's a nice piece of constructive feedback, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:41 AM, #48
Reply RE: General Disgruntledness, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #8
Reply I don’t care enough dude. , Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:41 PM, #11
Reply RE: I don’t care enough dude. , Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:45 PM, #13
     Reply Because, Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:47 PM, #14
     Reply RE: Because, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:01 PM, #19
     Reply How can you hope to, Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:49 PM, #15
          Reply RE: How can you hope to, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:03 PM, #20
               Reply Oh it’s silly lingo now?, Homard, 30-Apr-19 04:07 PM, #21
               Reply RE: Oh it’s silly lingo now?, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:11 PM, #22
                    Reply You don’t know me Ish..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 04:12 PM, #24
               Reply Every time I prayed to Jormyr I expected an smite-greet..., Cointreau, 30-Apr-19 07:02 PM, #32
                    Reply RE: Every time I prayed to Jormyr I expected an smite-g..., Rahsael, 30-Apr-19 07:32 PM, #34
Reply It's my fault, Rahsael, 30-Apr-19 07:31 PM, #33
     Reply If you attack someone with no RP involved you’re..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 07:42 PM, #35
          Reply Wow. You're a ####ing moron dude. nt, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 08:07 PM, #36
          Reply What did I do now, Rob? n/t, Homard, 30-Apr-19 08:17 PM, #37
               Reply You're acting like an insane piece of ####, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 08:44 PM, #38
                    Reply Take your meds. , Homard, 30-Apr-19 08:58 PM, #39
                    Reply I am uninvolved with this situation too., Lhydia, 30-Apr-19 09:10 PM, #40
                    Reply What really motivated this thread..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 10:01 PM, #41
                         Reply Scarab muter dropping f bomb, Lhydia, 30-Apr-19 10:58 PM, #42
                         Reply We can all learn from our mistakes!, Murphy, 30-Apr-19 11:44 PM, #45
                              Reply RE: We can all learn from our mistakes!, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:50 AM, #51
                    Reply Also uninvolved, Artificial, 30-Apr-19 11:35 PM, #43
                    Reply I'm seeing an interesting trend, Murphy, 30-Apr-19 11:41 PM, #44
                         Reply I think this thread shows why Imms don't apologize more..., Java, 01-May-19 01:43 AM, #49
                              Reply It would in my case., Murphy, 01-May-19 02:57 AM, #54
          Reply Chill, Kstatida, 01-May-19 01:52 AM, #52
Reply FWIW I don't think that was me., Daphedee, 30-Apr-19 03:36 PM, #7
Reply Yeah..., robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 03:27 PM, #3
Reply RE: Yeah..., Jhyrbian, 30-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #5
Reply RE: Yeah..., JohnEveryMan, 30-Apr-19 04:21 PM, #6
Reply Nah, I always have a reason., Daphedee, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #10
     Reply Sorry I got it wrong., robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:15 PM, #28
Reply That sucks, Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:20 PM, #1
     Reply RE: That sucks, Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:25 PM, #2
     Reply RE: That sucks, Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #4
          Reply Your mileage may vary..., Homard, 30-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #9
          Reply RE: Your mileage may vary..., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 03:51 PM, #16
          Reply Dude, look at this thread. YOU are the cause of that me..., Java, 01-May-19 01:49 AM, #50
          Reply I don't spread false narratives., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 03:45 PM, #12
          Reply RE: I don't spread false narratives., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:00 PM #18
               Reply Ok, here's the full quote., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 04:23 PM, #23
               Reply RE: Ok, here's the full quote., Ishuli, 30-Apr-19 04:40 PM, #25
                    Reply RE: Ok, here's the full quote., Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 05:03 PM, #26
                    Reply "words mean whatever I want them to mean" nt, robdarken_, 30-Apr-19 05:09 PM, #27
                         Reply "I can't read and don't word good", Saagkri, 30-Apr-19 05:21 PM, #29
                              Reply It's good to admit that. (n/t), JohnEveryMan, 30-Apr-19 05:26 PM, #30
                    Reply You are very wrong here, Kstatida, 01-May-19 02:14 AM, #53
               Reply Re: the additional context of having worked with Umi, Murphy, 01-May-19 12:54 AM, #46
          Reply Unfortunately, is not false, Kstatida, 30-Apr-19 03:52 PM, #17
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