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Topic subjectRE: Ok, here's the full quote.
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73029, RE: Ok, here's the full quote.
Posted by Saagkri on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Ish: Where does this us v them feeling come from? I don't see it.
Me: Here's what Umiron said (quotes Umiron)
Ish: Liar! Fake news!

Umiron's post was clear. In response to a player saying that the admins should be keeping the game fun and playable, he states:

1. CF is something a handful of people (IMMs) do "first and foremost" for their own enjoyment. "First and foremost" means before any other consideration which includes the enjoyment of players. The fact that he refers to it as a "hobby" has no bearing on his meaning.

2. CF is not something he feels we (the IMMs) "owe" anyone.

3. It's more an "art" than a business in that "we don't care how many paintings we sell". He's saying that CF is not consumer driven (consumers being the players) and that the IMMs being satisfied with what they're doing is what matters. This reinforces the first point.

You are the one mis-characterizing what he said. The fist sentence of what he said is an accurate summary of what he was trying to convey which is why I used it.

If he was only expressing his passion for what he did (which would not have addressed the original point to which he was replying) why would he preface it with this "isn't what some of you want to hear..."

Lastly, why do you feel the need to twist yourself into knots to decipher Umiron's meaning when if he didn't mean it he could just say so himself?