Sarien | Mon 19-Sep-16 12:48 PM |
Member since 14th Feb 2009
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#64964, "RE: Well done Umi !"
Edited on Mon 19-Sep-16 12:53 PM
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>>The argument that it gave vets an advantage is not a very >>solid argument. Vet's will always have an advantage, and >this >>isn't something that can be remedied. > >False. It is a solid argument and it can be remedied by >diminishing the sum of advantages a vet can gather over >newbies.
Sorry, but you're wrong. A newbie isn't going to know where to get the 'best' gear at his level, nor know the vuln system inside/out. Probably also won't max his skills prior to 20, or have ready access to the preps/recall/teleport/etc that I will at 20. Newbie is going to get pwnd whether I have 0 edges, or 100 edges.
>>The fact of the matter is, a lot of vets myself included >>enjoyed edges. If you brought methods of obtaining edges >>back, and or added new methods it would likely result in >more >>people playing. > >Or it can have the exact opposite effect: as one realize how >complicated and time consuming is this game, it is likely (and >I suspect it is why playerbase is going down) he'll go >somewhere else where he feels he can do more than just not >dying to pk fights... >
Edges were optional, and really only gave 1 vet an "edge" over another vet. The "true newbies" are just speedbumps, and will remain so because of what I said above. There is no edge that offers any advantage that doesn't pale in comparison to a solid understand of game mechanics, combined with equipment/prep knowledge and class knowledge.
>>adding incentive's that draw vets to play is good for the >>pbase because, vets are the ones running newbies around >>in-game for a lot of their "1st's". > >I've been playing CF for almost 10 years and I rarely seen >vets taking time to run newbies around... I think it's better >to bet on making the game a bit less complicated to attract >new players >
I've been playing for 21 years, does that mean that my opinion that edges were 'good' for the game is more valid than your opinion?
>>Frankly, the gutting of the edge system over time by Umiron >>was largely met with negative reaction. It was, and remains >a >>hugely unpopular change. I hope that the replacement staff >>addresses the fact that a widely well received method of >>character customization was removed without any type of >>replacement. > >False: there's a lot of positive comments on the change. With >all the classes, races, legacies, virtues, thief points, etc. >we have plenty of customization available. I don't think >losing the customization possibilities offered by edges is up >to the benefits it can bring to player base. Not only newbies >will find it less complicated but there's vet who, like >myself, find it very interesting not having to see the same >room/mob again and again to gather edges points.
Yeah, QHCF was just overwhelmed with 'positive' feedback to these changes(obvious sarcasm). I also imagine that the onslaught of praise for these changes is what drove Umiron to deletion.
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Edgepoints
[View all] , Sarien, Wed 14-Sep-16 09:05 AM
Hehehe, like there's new players. There's no one left b...,
Serial Ranger,
16-Oct-16 11:02 PM, #74
There are new players.,
Aereglen,
17-Oct-16 12:00 AM, #75
Of course,
vorian,
19-Oct-16 06:58 PM, #76
RE: Edgepoints,
Bemused,
22-Sep-16 12:50 AM, #49
Well done Umi !,
vorian,
15-Sep-16 09:22 PM, #25
False.,
Aereglen,
16-Sep-16 01:42 PM, #31
Try to see it my way?,
vorian,
17-Sep-16 10:53 PM, #33
Conversely,
incognito,
18-Sep-16 01:28 AM, #34
RE: Conversely,
Destuvius,
18-Sep-16 05:24 AM, #35
Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Thief.,
Murphy,
18-Sep-16 06:58 AM, #36
DWARF CLERIC IN MASTER PLZ AND THX. NT,
TMNS,
18-Sep-16 08:35 PM, #37
Did somebody say...,
Umiron,
18-Sep-16 09:01 PM, #39
Slander and falsehoods.,
Jormyr,
18-Sep-16 11:48 PM, #40
Cock-tease :) NT,
TMNS,
19-Sep-16 01:51 PM, #43
I thought the same.,
Aereglen,
19-Sep-16 03:36 PM, #46
Umiron, I have to say....,
Doof,
20-Sep-16 04:50 AM, #47
This is already too much fluff...,
vorian,
18-Sep-16 08:58 PM, #38
RE: Conversely,
incognito,
19-Sep-16 03:22 PM, #45
Seriously...,
vorian,
22-Sep-16 05:30 PM, #50
RE: Seriously...,
incognito,
23-Sep-16 03:51 AM, #56
The absurdity here...,
vorian,
23-Sep-16 05:05 PM, #57
RE: The absurdity here...,
incognito,
24-Sep-16 02:59 PM, #58
Apparently,
vorian,
25-Sep-16 10:01 PM, #60
RE: Apparently,
incognito,
26-Sep-16 10:40 AM, #64
Obviously,
vorian,
29-Sep-16 05:08 PM, #65
RE: Obviously,
Kstatida,
29-Sep-16 06:11 PM, #66
You did it again,
vorian,
29-Sep-16 07:17 PM, #67
RE: You did it again,
Kstatida,
30-Sep-16 06:02 AM, #68
My name is Kstatida,
vorian,
30-Sep-16 07:34 AM, #69
Being someone's muse, I feel accomplished,
Kstatida,
30-Sep-16 08:02 AM, #70
RE: Well done Umi !,
Sarien,
19-Sep-16 12:53 PM #41
RE: Well done Umi !,
Kstatida,
19-Sep-16 01:33 PM, #42
Some food for thought,
Destuvius,
19-Sep-16 01:55 PM, #44
Newbies, low and medium skilled players,
vorian,
22-Sep-16 06:18 PM, #51
Wat? Does that mean I'm a vet now?,
Murphy,
22-Sep-16 09:31 PM, #52
No you're OOP...,
vorian,
25-Sep-16 09:55 PM, #59
I can live with that.,
Murphy,
25-Sep-16 10:26 PM, #61
Actually this post is a counter example to itself,
KaguMaru,
26-Sep-16 09:47 AM, #62
Are you saying ,
vorian,
03-Oct-16 07:08 PM, #71
It's all the same,
Kstatida,
04-Oct-16 01:08 AM, #73
RE: Newbies, low and medium skilled players,
incognito,
26-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #63
Same as above to KaguMaru,
vorian,
03-Oct-16 07:12 PM, #72
I like the changes Umiron made.,
TMNS,
15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #18
Edge points from dying?,
Marcus_,
14-Sep-16 08:01 PM, #11
Define the degree?,
lasentia,
14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #4
This,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #5
Back in the day when you got EP for every 500 explore,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:14 AM, #6
that's an interesting theory,
lasentia,
14-Sep-16 12:06 PM, #9
Tail started to wag the dog.,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 12:19 PM, #10
Lol, I wasn't that serious.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 09:00 PM, #12
In so many ways, this.,
Jormyr,
14-Sep-16 11:54 PM, #13
RE: In so many ways, this.,
Andrlos,
15-Sep-16 01:22 AM, #14
I've done something similar on a few occasions,
Destuvius,
15-Sep-16 05:18 AM, #15
The instant you make the reward more than flair,
lasentia,
15-Sep-16 08:32 AM, #16
I wonder why do you play this game,
Kstatida,
15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #19
Hey welcome back! NT,
TMNS,
15-Sep-16 10:36 AM, #17
Good to be back.,
Andrlos,
15-Sep-16 11:58 AM, #20
10 years? ####, I hate myself now :).,
TMNS,
22-Sep-16 10:08 PM, #53
only 10?,
laxman,
22-Sep-16 11:04 PM, #54
You don't remember I used to make fun of you guys for p...,
TMNS,
22-Sep-16 11:51 PM, #55
It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge poi...,
-flso,
15-Sep-16 07:02 PM, #22
Do you even play CF anymore?,
Destuvius,
15-Sep-16 07:49 PM, #23
I don't play anymore,
-flso,
20-Sep-16 08:24 PM, #48
RE: It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge...,
Demos,
15-Sep-16 09:13 PM, #24
Discussing things doesn't take much time,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 01:05 AM, #26
RE: Discussing things doesn't take much time,
Demos,
16-Sep-16 07:42 AM, #27
Oh,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 08:52 AM, #28
Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your ass...,
-flso,
15-Sep-16 03:30 PM, #21
RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your...,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 08:53 AM, #29
He _IS_ the most relentless PKer around,
Murphy,
16-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #30
RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your...,
incognito,
17-Sep-16 02:36 AM, #32
But warren claims it's a good change.,
Aereglen,
14-Sep-16 10:13 AM, #1
It is. No doubt IMMS will find a balanced solution, as ...,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:31 AM, #2
Don't count on it.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:19 AM, #8
However, the only really bad thing is...,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #3
Actually, shapeshifters are the least screwed.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:16 AM, #7
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