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vorianSat 17-Sep-16 10:53 PM
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#64945, "Try to see it my way?"


          

I guess the problem is that you're so focused on what you loose with this change that it make you unable to see what you you can gain from it...

Yes you're loosing customization possibilities. But I think the main reason you customize your chars is to be more deadly and/or survivable right? Edges help vet's, who usually are better at PK than newbies, to become harder to kill or escape from in PK fights.

I think this change is, on the long run, better for playerbase growing because it advantages newbies (and less talented players) in their chances to succeed at pk. That what I mean by a more "balanced" game.

What you have to understand is that the best way to keep someone interested in a thing-game-sport he's learning (and God knows there's a lot to learn to be good in CF!) is to make sure the student experiment some "success" in his learning process. I know many thinks that surviving at PK is a form of success and it's true. But believe me, "surviving at someone trying to pk you" satisfies one to a certain point. After a while, as a CF player, you want to be able to pk someone sometimes. That is why I will always be for changes favoring newbies and less skilled players over vet's because pking a vet is one of the hardest thing to do in CF. The very common equation being "vet kill newbie".

I think the actual PB has a lot of very good CF players making it very hard for newbies and less talented players to experiment the success at PKing someone. As PK is a major aspect of the game, it is easy to understand why less and less players spend their limited leisure time playing CF when they're almost never able to pk someone.

So yes you loose customizations and powers lots of edges use to give you but, on the other side, you also give a chance to have a bigger PB. So in the end, you have to ask yourself what you like better: having a uber char in a 10 PB game or a char with less powers in a 50-100 PB game (like CF used to be in early 2000's)?

  

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HOT TopicEdgepoints [View all] , Sarien, Wed 14-Sep-16 09:05 AM
Reply Hehehe, like there's new players. There's no one left b..., Serial Ranger, 16-Oct-16 11:02 PM, #74
Reply There are new players., Aereglen, 17-Oct-16 12:00 AM, #75
     Reply Of course, vorian, 19-Oct-16 06:58 PM, #76
Reply RE: Edgepoints, Bemused, 22-Sep-16 12:50 AM, #49
Reply Well done Umi !, vorian, 15-Sep-16 09:22 PM, #25
Reply False., Aereglen, 16-Sep-16 01:42 PM, #31
Reply Try to see it my way?, vorian, 17-Sep-16 10:53 PM #33
     Reply Conversely, incognito, 18-Sep-16 01:28 AM, #34
          Reply RE: Conversely, Destuvius, 18-Sep-16 05:24 AM, #35
               Reply Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Thief., Murphy, 18-Sep-16 06:58 AM, #36
               Reply DWARF CLERIC IN MASTER PLZ AND THX. NT, TMNS, 18-Sep-16 08:35 PM, #37
               Reply Did somebody say..., Umiron, 18-Sep-16 09:01 PM, #39
                    Reply Slander and falsehoods., Jormyr, 18-Sep-16 11:48 PM, #40
                    Reply Cock-tease :) NT, TMNS, 19-Sep-16 01:51 PM, #43
                    Reply I thought the same., Aereglen, 19-Sep-16 03:36 PM, #46
                    Reply Umiron, I have to say...., Doof, 20-Sep-16 04:50 AM, #47
               Reply This is already too much fluff..., vorian, 18-Sep-16 08:58 PM, #38
               Reply RE: Conversely, incognito, 19-Sep-16 03:22 PM, #45
                    Reply Seriously..., vorian, 22-Sep-16 05:30 PM, #50
                         Reply RE: Seriously..., incognito, 23-Sep-16 03:51 AM, #56
                              Reply The absurdity here..., vorian, 23-Sep-16 05:05 PM, #57
                                   Reply RE: The absurdity here..., incognito, 24-Sep-16 02:59 PM, #58
                                        Reply Apparently, vorian, 25-Sep-16 10:01 PM, #60
                                             Reply RE: Apparently, incognito, 26-Sep-16 10:40 AM, #64
                                                  Reply Obviously, vorian, 29-Sep-16 05:08 PM, #65
                                                       Reply RE: Obviously, Kstatida, 29-Sep-16 06:11 PM, #66
                                                            Reply You did it again, vorian, 29-Sep-16 07:17 PM, #67
                                                                 Reply RE: You did it again, Kstatida, 30-Sep-16 06:02 AM, #68
                                                                      Reply My name is Kstatida, vorian, 30-Sep-16 07:34 AM, #69
                                                                           Reply Being someone's muse, I feel accomplished, Kstatida, 30-Sep-16 08:02 AM, #70
Reply RE: Well done Umi !, Sarien, 19-Sep-16 12:53 PM, #41
     Reply RE: Well done Umi !, Kstatida, 19-Sep-16 01:33 PM, #42
     Reply Some food for thought, Destuvius, 19-Sep-16 01:55 PM, #44
     Reply Newbies, low and medium skilled players, vorian, 22-Sep-16 06:18 PM, #51
          Reply Wat? Does that mean I'm a vet now?, Murphy, 22-Sep-16 09:31 PM, #52
          Reply No you're OOP..., vorian, 25-Sep-16 09:55 PM, #59
               Reply I can live with that., Murphy, 25-Sep-16 10:26 PM, #61
          Reply Actually this post is a counter example to itself, KaguMaru, 26-Sep-16 09:47 AM, #62
          Reply Are you saying , vorian, 03-Oct-16 07:08 PM, #71
               Reply It's all the same, Kstatida, 04-Oct-16 01:08 AM, #73
          Reply RE: Newbies, low and medium skilled players, incognito, 26-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #63
               Reply Same as above to KaguMaru, vorian, 03-Oct-16 07:12 PM, #72
Reply I like the changes Umiron made., TMNS, 15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #18
Reply Edge points from dying?, Marcus_, 14-Sep-16 08:01 PM, #11
Reply Define the degree?, lasentia, 14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #4
Reply This, Warren, 14-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #5
     Reply Back in the day when you got EP for every 500 explore, Murphy, 14-Sep-16 11:14 AM, #6
          Reply that's an interesting theory, lasentia, 14-Sep-16 12:06 PM, #9
               Reply Tail started to wag the dog., Warren, 14-Sep-16 12:19 PM, #10
               Reply Lol, I wasn't that serious., Murphy, 14-Sep-16 09:00 PM, #12
               Reply In so many ways, this., Jormyr, 14-Sep-16 11:54 PM, #13
               Reply RE: In so many ways, this., Andrlos, 15-Sep-16 01:22 AM, #14
               Reply I've done something similar on a few occasions, Destuvius, 15-Sep-16 05:18 AM, #15
               Reply The instant you make the reward more than flair, lasentia, 15-Sep-16 08:32 AM, #16
                    Reply I wonder why do you play this game, Kstatida, 15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #19
               Reply Hey welcome back! NT, TMNS, 15-Sep-16 10:36 AM, #17
                    Reply Good to be back., Andrlos, 15-Sep-16 11:58 AM, #20
                         Reply 10 years? ####, I hate myself now :)., TMNS, 22-Sep-16 10:08 PM, #53
                              Reply only 10?, laxman, 22-Sep-16 11:04 PM, #54
                                   Reply You don't remember I used to make fun of you guys for p..., TMNS, 22-Sep-16 11:51 PM, #55
               Reply It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge poi..., -flso, 15-Sep-16 07:02 PM, #22
                    Reply Do you even play CF anymore?, Destuvius, 15-Sep-16 07:49 PM, #23
                    Reply I don't play anymore, -flso, 20-Sep-16 08:24 PM, #48
                    Reply RE: It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge..., Demos, 15-Sep-16 09:13 PM, #24
                         Reply Discussing things doesn't take much time, Kstatida, 16-Sep-16 01:05 AM, #26
                              Reply RE: Discussing things doesn't take much time, Demos, 16-Sep-16 07:42 AM, #27
                                   Reply Oh, Kstatida, 16-Sep-16 08:52 AM, #28
               Reply Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your ass..., -flso, 15-Sep-16 03:30 PM, #21
                    Reply RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your..., Kstatida, 16-Sep-16 08:53 AM, #29
                    Reply He _IS_ the most relentless PKer around, Murphy, 16-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #30
                    Reply RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your..., incognito, 17-Sep-16 02:36 AM, #32
Reply But warren claims it's a good change., Aereglen, 14-Sep-16 10:13 AM, #1
     Reply It is. No doubt IMMS will find a balanced solution, as ..., Warren, 14-Sep-16 10:31 AM, #2
     Reply Don't count on it., Murphy, 14-Sep-16 11:19 AM, #8
     Reply However, the only really bad thing is..., Warren, 14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #3
          Reply Actually, shapeshifters are the least screwed., Murphy, 14-Sep-16 11:16 AM, #7
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