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JormyrWed 14-Sep-16 11:54 PM
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#64924, "In so many ways, this."


          

I have long been of the belief that Twist's detailing of the exact means to get edge points was one of the worst blows to the system we could have done. Before that, you explored because you wanted to explore - or you thought that it was the most useful thing to do at a time and might get you rewards. You PK'd because it got you shinies, and you knew at some point, being involved in PKs gets you edges, etc. After the detailing, which as mentioned was requested (and I'm generally a fan of transparency), it became all about getting every last edge point possible from that list.

Secondly, the concept that players as a whole will ever be "satisfied", has long proven to be false. XP rates were increased, they're still slow. Bonuses, bah not enough. XP rates were increased even more. We're at a point now where people can and have power-levelled from creation to hero between my logins, and by and large I at least log in daily at least just to check in. No person in the game has ever said "Nah, I'm cool with just these two powers. Don't throw me that cool new toy, too". So at some point, you more or less need to decide what amount of toys you want to allow for customization, and have that as the standard. You lose all sense of customization if all paladins have all four dedications, or shamans every path, etc.

The two biggest issues with any sort of new edge system currently are:

1) Having someone actually rewriting the code to enact whatever ideas have been come up with.
2) Creating a system that encourages positive behavior from the playerbase, without creating something that can be exploited through means that negate the point of the system. So far, the only concrete way we've found in that sense has been putting more and more of the system back in the hands of Imms, which has its own issues of presence and perceived favoritism.

  

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HOT TopicEdgepoints [View all] , Sarien, Wed 14-Sep-16 09:05 AM
Reply Hehehe, like there's new players. There's no one left b..., Serial Ranger, 16-Oct-16 11:02 PM, #74
Reply There are new players., Aereglen, 17-Oct-16 12:00 AM, #75
     Reply Of course, vorian, 19-Oct-16 06:58 PM, #76
Reply RE: Edgepoints, Bemused, 22-Sep-16 12:50 AM, #49
Reply Well done Umi !, vorian, 15-Sep-16 09:22 PM, #25
Reply False., Aereglen, 16-Sep-16 01:42 PM, #31
Reply Try to see it my way?, vorian, 17-Sep-16 10:53 PM, #33
     Reply Conversely, incognito, 18-Sep-16 01:28 AM, #34
          Reply RE: Conversely, Destuvius, 18-Sep-16 05:24 AM, #35
               Reply Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Thief., Murphy, 18-Sep-16 06:58 AM, #36
               Reply DWARF CLERIC IN MASTER PLZ AND THX. NT, TMNS, 18-Sep-16 08:35 PM, #37
               Reply Did somebody say..., Umiron, 18-Sep-16 09:01 PM, #39
                    Reply Slander and falsehoods., Jormyr, 18-Sep-16 11:48 PM, #40
                    Reply Cock-tease :) NT, TMNS, 19-Sep-16 01:51 PM, #43
                    Reply I thought the same., Aereglen, 19-Sep-16 03:36 PM, #46
                    Reply Umiron, I have to say...., Doof, 20-Sep-16 04:50 AM, #47
               Reply This is already too much fluff..., vorian, 18-Sep-16 08:58 PM, #38
               Reply RE: Conversely, incognito, 19-Sep-16 03:22 PM, #45
                    Reply Seriously..., vorian, 22-Sep-16 05:30 PM, #50
                         Reply RE: Seriously..., incognito, 23-Sep-16 03:51 AM, #56
                              Reply The absurdity here..., vorian, 23-Sep-16 05:05 PM, #57
                                   Reply RE: The absurdity here..., incognito, 24-Sep-16 02:59 PM, #58
                                        Reply Apparently, vorian, 25-Sep-16 10:01 PM, #60
                                             Reply RE: Apparently, incognito, 26-Sep-16 10:40 AM, #64
                                                  Reply Obviously, vorian, 29-Sep-16 05:08 PM, #65
                                                       Reply RE: Obviously, Kstatida, 29-Sep-16 06:11 PM, #66
                                                            Reply You did it again, vorian, 29-Sep-16 07:17 PM, #67
                                                                 Reply RE: You did it again, Kstatida, 30-Sep-16 06:02 AM, #68
                                                                      Reply My name is Kstatida, vorian, 30-Sep-16 07:34 AM, #69
                                                                           Reply Being someone's muse, I feel accomplished, Kstatida, 30-Sep-16 08:02 AM, #70
Reply RE: Well done Umi !, Sarien, 19-Sep-16 12:53 PM, #41
     Reply RE: Well done Umi !, Kstatida, 19-Sep-16 01:33 PM, #42
     Reply Some food for thought, Destuvius, 19-Sep-16 01:55 PM, #44
     Reply Newbies, low and medium skilled players, vorian, 22-Sep-16 06:18 PM, #51
          Reply Wat? Does that mean I'm a vet now?, Murphy, 22-Sep-16 09:31 PM, #52
          Reply No you're OOP..., vorian, 25-Sep-16 09:55 PM, #59
               Reply I can live with that., Murphy, 25-Sep-16 10:26 PM, #61
          Reply Actually this post is a counter example to itself, KaguMaru, 26-Sep-16 09:47 AM, #62
          Reply Are you saying , vorian, 03-Oct-16 07:08 PM, #71
               Reply It's all the same, Kstatida, 04-Oct-16 01:08 AM, #73
          Reply RE: Newbies, low and medium skilled players, incognito, 26-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #63
               Reply Same as above to KaguMaru, vorian, 03-Oct-16 07:12 PM, #72
Reply I like the changes Umiron made., TMNS, 15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #18
Reply Edge points from dying?, Marcus_, 14-Sep-16 08:01 PM, #11
Reply Define the degree?, lasentia, 14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #4
Reply This, Warren, 14-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #5
     Reply Back in the day when you got EP for every 500 explore, Murphy, 14-Sep-16 11:14 AM, #6
          Reply that's an interesting theory, lasentia, 14-Sep-16 12:06 PM, #9
               Reply Tail started to wag the dog., Warren, 14-Sep-16 12:19 PM, #10
               Reply Lol, I wasn't that serious., Murphy, 14-Sep-16 09:00 PM, #12
               Reply In so many ways, this., Jormyr, 14-Sep-16 11:54 PM #13
               Reply RE: In so many ways, this., Andrlos, 15-Sep-16 01:22 AM, #14
               Reply I've done something similar on a few occasions, Destuvius, 15-Sep-16 05:18 AM, #15
               Reply The instant you make the reward more than flair, lasentia, 15-Sep-16 08:32 AM, #16
                    Reply I wonder why do you play this game, Kstatida, 15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #19
               Reply Hey welcome back! NT, TMNS, 15-Sep-16 10:36 AM, #17
                    Reply Good to be back., Andrlos, 15-Sep-16 11:58 AM, #20
                         Reply 10 years? ####, I hate myself now :)., TMNS, 22-Sep-16 10:08 PM, #53
                              Reply only 10?, laxman, 22-Sep-16 11:04 PM, #54
                                   Reply You don't remember I used to make fun of you guys for p..., TMNS, 22-Sep-16 11:51 PM, #55
               Reply It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge poi..., -flso, 15-Sep-16 07:02 PM, #22
                    Reply Do you even play CF anymore?, Destuvius, 15-Sep-16 07:49 PM, #23
                    Reply I don't play anymore, -flso, 20-Sep-16 08:24 PM, #48
                    Reply RE: It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge..., Demos, 15-Sep-16 09:13 PM, #24
                         Reply Discussing things doesn't take much time, Kstatida, 16-Sep-16 01:05 AM, #26
                              Reply RE: Discussing things doesn't take much time, Demos, 16-Sep-16 07:42 AM, #27
                                   Reply Oh, Kstatida, 16-Sep-16 08:52 AM, #28
               Reply Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your ass..., -flso, 15-Sep-16 03:30 PM, #21
                    Reply RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your..., Kstatida, 16-Sep-16 08:53 AM, #29
                    Reply He _IS_ the most relentless PKer around, Murphy, 16-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #30
                    Reply RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your..., incognito, 17-Sep-16 02:36 AM, #32
Reply But warren claims it's a good change., Aereglen, 14-Sep-16 10:13 AM, #1
     Reply It is. No doubt IMMS will find a balanced solution, as ..., Warren, 14-Sep-16 10:31 AM, #2
     Reply Don't count on it., Murphy, 14-Sep-16 11:19 AM, #8
     Reply However, the only really bad thing is..., Warren, 14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #3
          Reply Actually, shapeshifters are the least screwed., Murphy, 14-Sep-16 11:16 AM, #7
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