Jormyr | Wed 14-Sep-16 11:54 PM |
Member since 31st Dec 2014
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#64924, "In so many ways, this."
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I have long been of the belief that Twist's detailing of the exact means to get edge points was one of the worst blows to the system we could have done. Before that, you explored because you wanted to explore - or you thought that it was the most useful thing to do at a time and might get you rewards. You PK'd because it got you shinies, and you knew at some point, being involved in PKs gets you edges, etc. After the detailing, which as mentioned was requested (and I'm generally a fan of transparency), it became all about getting every last edge point possible from that list.
Secondly, the concept that players as a whole will ever be "satisfied", has long proven to be false. XP rates were increased, they're still slow. Bonuses, bah not enough. XP rates were increased even more. We're at a point now where people can and have power-levelled from creation to hero between my logins, and by and large I at least log in daily at least just to check in. No person in the game has ever said "Nah, I'm cool with just these two powers. Don't throw me that cool new toy, too". So at some point, you more or less need to decide what amount of toys you want to allow for customization, and have that as the standard. You lose all sense of customization if all paladins have all four dedications, or shamans every path, etc.
The two biggest issues with any sort of new edge system currently are:
1) Having someone actually rewriting the code to enact whatever ideas have been come up with. 2) Creating a system that encourages positive behavior from the playerbase, without creating something that can be exploited through means that negate the point of the system. So far, the only concrete way we've found in that sense has been putting more and more of the system back in the hands of Imms, which has its own issues of presence and perceived favoritism.
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Edgepoints
[View all] , Sarien, Wed 14-Sep-16 09:05 AM
Hehehe, like there's new players. There's no one left b...,
Serial Ranger,
16-Oct-16 11:02 PM, #74
There are new players.,
Aereglen,
17-Oct-16 12:00 AM, #75
Of course,
vorian,
19-Oct-16 06:58 PM, #76
RE: Edgepoints,
Bemused,
22-Sep-16 12:50 AM, #49
Well done Umi !,
vorian,
15-Sep-16 09:22 PM, #25
False.,
Aereglen,
16-Sep-16 01:42 PM, #31
Try to see it my way?,
vorian,
17-Sep-16 10:53 PM, #33
Conversely,
incognito,
18-Sep-16 01:28 AM, #34
RE: Conversely,
Destuvius,
18-Sep-16 05:24 AM, #35
Fighter, Cleric, Mage, Thief.,
Murphy,
18-Sep-16 06:58 AM, #36
DWARF CLERIC IN MASTER PLZ AND THX. NT,
TMNS,
18-Sep-16 08:35 PM, #37
Did somebody say...,
Umiron,
18-Sep-16 09:01 PM, #39
Slander and falsehoods.,
Jormyr,
18-Sep-16 11:48 PM, #40
Cock-tease :) NT,
TMNS,
19-Sep-16 01:51 PM, #43
I thought the same.,
Aereglen,
19-Sep-16 03:36 PM, #46
Umiron, I have to say....,
Doof,
20-Sep-16 04:50 AM, #47
This is already too much fluff...,
vorian,
18-Sep-16 08:58 PM, #38
RE: Conversely,
incognito,
19-Sep-16 03:22 PM, #45
Seriously...,
vorian,
22-Sep-16 05:30 PM, #50
RE: Seriously...,
incognito,
23-Sep-16 03:51 AM, #56
The absurdity here...,
vorian,
23-Sep-16 05:05 PM, #57
RE: The absurdity here...,
incognito,
24-Sep-16 02:59 PM, #58
Apparently,
vorian,
25-Sep-16 10:01 PM, #60
RE: Apparently,
incognito,
26-Sep-16 10:40 AM, #64
Obviously,
vorian,
29-Sep-16 05:08 PM, #65
RE: Obviously,
Kstatida,
29-Sep-16 06:11 PM, #66
You did it again,
vorian,
29-Sep-16 07:17 PM, #67
RE: You did it again,
Kstatida,
30-Sep-16 06:02 AM, #68
My name is Kstatida,
vorian,
30-Sep-16 07:34 AM, #69
Being someone's muse, I feel accomplished,
Kstatida,
30-Sep-16 08:02 AM, #70
RE: Well done Umi !,
Sarien,
19-Sep-16 12:53 PM, #41
RE: Well done Umi !,
Kstatida,
19-Sep-16 01:33 PM, #42
Some food for thought,
Destuvius,
19-Sep-16 01:55 PM, #44
Newbies, low and medium skilled players,
vorian,
22-Sep-16 06:18 PM, #51
Wat? Does that mean I'm a vet now?,
Murphy,
22-Sep-16 09:31 PM, #52
No you're OOP...,
vorian,
25-Sep-16 09:55 PM, #59
I can live with that.,
Murphy,
25-Sep-16 10:26 PM, #61
Actually this post is a counter example to itself,
KaguMaru,
26-Sep-16 09:47 AM, #62
Are you saying ,
vorian,
03-Oct-16 07:08 PM, #71
It's all the same,
Kstatida,
04-Oct-16 01:08 AM, #73
RE: Newbies, low and medium skilled players,
incognito,
26-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #63
Same as above to KaguMaru,
vorian,
03-Oct-16 07:12 PM, #72
I like the changes Umiron made.,
TMNS,
15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #18
Edge points from dying?,
Marcus_,
14-Sep-16 08:01 PM, #11
Define the degree?,
lasentia,
14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #4
This,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:35 AM, #5
Back in the day when you got EP for every 500 explore,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:14 AM, #6
that's an interesting theory,
lasentia,
14-Sep-16 12:06 PM, #9
Tail started to wag the dog.,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 12:19 PM, #10
Lol, I wasn't that serious.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 09:00 PM, #12
In so many ways, this.,
Jormyr,
14-Sep-16 11:54 PM #13
RE: In so many ways, this.,
Andrlos,
15-Sep-16 01:22 AM, #14
I've done something similar on a few occasions,
Destuvius,
15-Sep-16 05:18 AM, #15
The instant you make the reward more than flair,
lasentia,
15-Sep-16 08:32 AM, #16
I wonder why do you play this game,
Kstatida,
15-Sep-16 10:39 AM, #19
Hey welcome back! NT,
TMNS,
15-Sep-16 10:36 AM, #17
Good to be back.,
Andrlos,
15-Sep-16 11:58 AM, #20
10 years? ####, I hate myself now :).,
TMNS,
22-Sep-16 10:08 PM, #53
only 10?,
laxman,
22-Sep-16 11:04 PM, #54
You don't remember I used to make fun of you guys for p...,
TMNS,
22-Sep-16 11:51 PM, #55
It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge poi...,
-flso,
15-Sep-16 07:02 PM, #22
Do you even play CF anymore?,
Destuvius,
15-Sep-16 07:49 PM, #23
I don't play anymore,
-flso,
20-Sep-16 08:24 PM, #48
RE: It was well known that X number of PKs got you edge...,
Demos,
15-Sep-16 09:13 PM, #24
Discussing things doesn't take much time,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 01:05 AM, #26
RE: Discussing things doesn't take much time,
Demos,
16-Sep-16 07:42 AM, #27
Oh,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 08:52 AM, #28
Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your ass...,
-flso,
15-Sep-16 03:30 PM, #21
RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your...,
Kstatida,
16-Sep-16 08:53 AM, #29
He _IS_ the most relentless PKer around,
Murphy,
16-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #30
RE: Am I the only one who finds serious flaws with your...,
incognito,
17-Sep-16 02:36 AM, #32
But warren claims it's a good change.,
Aereglen,
14-Sep-16 10:13 AM, #1
It is. No doubt IMMS will find a balanced solution, as ...,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:31 AM, #2
Don't count on it.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:19 AM, #8
However, the only really bad thing is...,
Warren,
14-Sep-16 10:33 AM, #3
Actually, shapeshifters are the least screwed.,
Murphy,
14-Sep-16 11:16 AM, #7
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