Valkenar | Tue 18-Aug-09 09:05 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#26480, "Modern times"
Edited on Tue 18-Aug-09 09:07 AM
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The question of the silent tower really reflects a question I think CF has struggled with for a while as gaming has evolved. Gamers expectations have changed a lot since CF's original vision was changed. It is simply assumed, I think, that any rpg will have a comprehensive list of items, monsters, areas, etc freely available on websites.
The question is, do you want to try to maintain the isolation of information or not? If you do, I think you really need to approach it by establishing a system of user accounts and marketing hard for the sub-sub niche of gamers that want to play a solo, unshared information, roleplaying, pvp, text rpg. To some extent this could simply be a practical decision; Do you want to try hard for the kind of game you feel is best, knowing that there will be fewer players, or do you compromise in order to expand the user base?
That said, if you want to keep the information isolation idea afloat, then go for it, and keep ST the way it is. You like it better in its current incarnation and I think most everyone agrees it's more interesting that way. But if you're not going to make a serious effort to wind back the clock on gaming, then yeah, it's probably best to update ST to a form that is fun and fair in spite of information sharing.
The next question then is, would you be legitimizing information sharing by doing this? I think you would see people arguing "well it's fine to share it now because nep specifically changed it for that reason."
Personally, I would enjoy CF most either of two ways: with complete sharing or complete isolation. The current situation where I know that there's a lot of sharing going on but I don't really participate out of ethical obligation doesn't really thrill me. I think I actually would like complete isolation best, but since I don't think that's really possible I think it would be better to just open CF up considerably, and accept/allow people to fully share information the way they do for other rpgs.
P.S. If you do change silent tower, you should put the original up on some sort of alternate-test server so I can explore the puzzle version just for fun.
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Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe
[View all] , Daevryn, Sat 15-Aug-09 01:42 AM
My Thoughts,
Dragomir,
23-Aug-09 07:46 PM, #90
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Exit,
21-Aug-09 09:19 PM, #89
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Tyrjal,
21-Aug-09 02:34 AM, #86
Sadly, the playerbase being what it is, this would like...,
Theerkla,
21-Aug-09 05:27 AM, #87
Oh and..,
Cerunnir,
21-Aug-09 03:49 PM, #88
My take on silent tower.,
Kadsuane,
20-Aug-09 11:09 AM, #84
RE: My take on silent tower.,
Daevryn,
20-Aug-09 11:16 AM, #85
Another possible solution,
incognito,
19-Aug-09 05:11 PM, #83
Make the rewards rot on leaving the tower maybe?,
muchos2,
19-Aug-09 12:06 PM, #81
I like this idea.,
Quixotic,
19-Aug-09 01:47 PM, #82
Modern times,
Valkenar,
18-Aug-09 09:07 AM #80
Thing is,
incognito,
18-Aug-09 02:42 AM, #79
On time-intensiveness,
DurNominator,
18-Aug-09 12:21 AM, #78
The puzzles are what made it,
Grudan,
17-Aug-09 11:00 AM, #77
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Xanthrailles,
16-Aug-09 01:58 PM, #73
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Eskelian,
16-Aug-09 01:57 PM, #72
Crackball thought.,
Quixotic,
16-Aug-09 01:54 PM, #71
Throwdown vs riddle,
laxman,
16-Aug-09 08:35 AM, #63
RE: Throwdown vs riddle,
Daevryn,
16-Aug-09 10:04 AM, #65
This sums up the problem with brute force to me,
incognito,
16-Aug-09 12:58 PM, #69
Seriously- Brits don't perma nt,
Abernyte,
16-Aug-09 05:09 PM, #74
RE: Seriously- Brits don't perma nt,
incognito,
17-Aug-09 02:44 AM, #75
people don't post cheats to help,
bobbyp,
16-Aug-09 08:00 AM, #62
For solo, think less puzzle and more complex, intriguin...,
Boon,
15-Aug-09 06:25 PM, #55
my opinion,
Jhyrbian,
15-Aug-09 06:09 PM, #54
RE: my opinion,
A2,
15-Aug-09 09:40 PM, #56
Very good point,
Mekantos,
16-Aug-09 01:09 AM, #58
RE: Very good point,
Daevryn,
16-Aug-09 01:21 AM, #59
did anyone ever figure out how to talk? nt,
Jhyrbian,
16-Aug-09 06:31 AM, #61
Yep.,
Daevryn,
16-Aug-09 10:01 AM, #64
Btw,
Mekantos,
16-Aug-09 12:56 PM, #68
RE: Btw,
Daevryn,
16-Aug-09 01:02 PM, #70
Both Sides of the Coin,
Straklaw,
15-Aug-09 05:12 PM, #52
RE: Both Sides of the Coin,
Daevryn,
15-Aug-09 05:26 PM, #53
RE: Both Sides of the Coin,
Aodh,
16-Aug-09 04:15 AM, #60
Personally I'd like to see,
Lokain,
15-Aug-09 05:08 PM, #51
I think Lokain's idea has merit.,
GinGa,
16-Aug-09 11:43 AM, #66
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Isildur,
15-Aug-09 03:42 PM, #47
Quick fix,
Mekantos,
15-Aug-09 03:11 PM, #46
That would actually just make it worse,
Nightgaunt_,
15-Aug-09 04:49 PM, #50
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
trewyn,
15-Aug-09 02:43 PM, #44
Two points,
The Heretic,
15-Aug-09 01:42 PM, #38
Idea with this issue:,
GinGa,
16-Aug-09 11:49 AM, #67
That is the worst example you could have picked,
incognito,
17-Aug-09 03:10 AM, #76
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
xander,
15-Aug-09 01:05 PM, #36
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
asylumius,
15-Aug-09 12:25 PM, #33
Long time on-and-offer's thoughts,
RandomThinker,
15-Aug-09 11:49 AM, #24
Thumbs down, imo,
Mort,
15-Aug-09 11:20 AM, #21
An old-timer's viewpoint,
HunterElf,
15-Aug-09 11:21 AM, #20
The biggest thing I think that hurts solo-exploration,
_Magus_,
15-Aug-09 11:41 AM, #23
You are just exploring with the wrong class,
Nightgaunt_,
15-Aug-09 11:57 AM, #27
The problem with that is...,
_Magus_,
15-Aug-09 12:09 PM, #29
RE: The problem with that is...,
Nightgaunt_,
15-Aug-09 12:18 PM, #31
Not to get off on a tangent...,
_Magus_,
15-Aug-09 02:29 PM, #42
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
ORB,
15-Aug-09 10:42 AM, #16
Not a bad idea really! IMM-quest to be able to enter th...,
Amberion,
15-Aug-09 11:38 AM, #22
I don't like Imm quest idea...,
ORB,
15-Aug-09 12:42 PM, #35
I don't like it either...,
Zulghinlour,
15-Aug-09 03:04 PM, #45
RE: Secrecy,
Splntrd,
15-Aug-09 10:42 AM, #15
Good post n/t,
Lokain,
15-Aug-09 12:27 PM, #34
RE: Secrecy,
Zulghinlour,
15-Aug-09 01:29 PM, #37
Precisely...,
asylumius,
15-Aug-09 02:12 PM, #40
I'm dying with curiosity now nt,
Lokain,
15-Aug-09 02:43 PM, #43
I totally agree with you on almost everything...,
TMNS,
15-Aug-09 02:26 PM, #41
RE: Secrecy,
asylumius,
15-Aug-09 02:08 PM, #39
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Rade,
15-Aug-09 10:37 AM, #14
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Daevryn,
15-Aug-09 10:51 AM, #17
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Splntrd,
15-Aug-09 11:02 AM, #19
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Daevryn,
15-Aug-09 04:13 PM, #49
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Nightgaunt_,
15-Aug-09 11:56 AM, #26
Nah.,
Splntrd,
15-Aug-09 12:08 PM, #28
RE: Nah.,
Nightgaunt_,
15-Aug-09 12:16 PM, #30
Oh, I see what you're getting at. nt,
Splntrd,
15-Aug-09 12:19 PM, #32
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Daevryn,
15-Aug-09 04:04 PM, #48
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
Rade,
15-Aug-09 11:55 PM, #57
Meh.,
Iunna,
15-Aug-09 08:44 AM, #12
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
_Magus_,
15-Aug-09 08:22 AM, #11
Does that add anything to the game?,
Stunna,
15-Aug-09 07:02 AM, #10
I prefer the puzzle type area,
incognito,
15-Aug-09 06:44 AM, #9
Why that won't work,
Nightgaunt_,
15-Aug-09 11:53 AM, #25
I almost got into ST...,
Aodh,
15-Aug-09 05:57 AM, #7
Why I'm against groups,
vargal,
15-Aug-09 06:06 AM, #8
RE: I almost got into ST...,
Cerunnir,
15-Aug-09 10:25 AM, #13
Think you know my idea on this...,
Torak,
15-Aug-09 04:34 AM, #6
I really like the idea here!,
Amberion,
15-Aug-09 10:56 AM, #18
My thoughts on this, fwiw,
Mekantos,
15-Aug-09 04:27 AM, #5
No matter what it needs to come back.,
Guilo,
15-Aug-09 03:30 AM, #4
RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe,
vargal,
15-Aug-09 02:32 AM, #3
I wouldn't be against a Silent Reimagining.,
TMNS,
15-Aug-09 02:20 AM, #1
RE: I wouldn't be against a Silent Reimagining.,
Nightgaunt_,
15-Aug-09 02:31 AM, #2
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