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ValkenarTue 18-Aug-09 09:05 AM
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#26480, "Modern times"
Edited on Tue 18-Aug-09 09:07 AM

          

The question of the silent tower really reflects a question I think CF has struggled with for a while as gaming has evolved. Gamers expectations have changed a lot since CF's original vision was changed. It is simply assumed, I think, that any rpg will have a comprehensive list of items, monsters, areas, etc freely available on websites.

The question is, do you want to try to maintain the isolation of information or not? If you do, I think you really need to approach it by establishing a system of user accounts and marketing hard for the sub-sub niche of gamers that want to play a solo, unshared information, roleplaying, pvp, text rpg. To some extent this could simply be a practical decision; Do you want to try hard for the kind of game you feel is best, knowing that there will be fewer players, or do you compromise in order to expand the user base?

That said, if you want to keep the information isolation idea afloat, then go for it, and keep ST the way it is. You like it better in its current incarnation and I think most everyone agrees it's more interesting that way. But if you're not going to make a serious effort to wind back the clock on gaming, then yeah, it's probably best to update ST to a form that is fun and fair in spite of information sharing.

The next question then is, would you be legitimizing information sharing by doing this? I think you would see people arguing "well it's fine to share it now because nep specifically changed it for that reason."

Personally, I would enjoy CF most either of two ways: with complete sharing or complete isolation. The current situation where I know that there's a lot of sharing going on but I don't really participate out of ethical obligation doesn't really thrill me. I think I actually would like complete isolation best, but since I don't think that's really possible I think it would be better to just open CF up considerably, and accept/allow people to fully share information the way they do for other rpgs.

P.S.
If you do change silent tower, you should put the original up on some sort of alternate-test server so I can explore the puzzle version just for fun.

  

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HOT TopicSilent Tower Rethought.... maybe [View all] , Daevryn, Sat 15-Aug-09 01:42 AM
Reply My Thoughts, Dragomir, 23-Aug-09 07:46 PM, #90
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Exit, 21-Aug-09 09:19 PM, #89
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Tyrjal, 21-Aug-09 02:34 AM, #86
Reply Sadly, the playerbase being what it is, this would like..., Theerkla, 21-Aug-09 05:27 AM, #87
     Reply Oh and.., Cerunnir, 21-Aug-09 03:49 PM, #88
Reply My take on silent tower., Kadsuane, 20-Aug-09 11:09 AM, #84
Reply RE: My take on silent tower., Daevryn, 20-Aug-09 11:16 AM, #85
Reply Another possible solution, incognito, 19-Aug-09 05:11 PM, #83
Reply Make the rewards rot on leaving the tower maybe?, muchos2, 19-Aug-09 12:06 PM, #81
Reply I like this idea., Quixotic, 19-Aug-09 01:47 PM, #82
Reply Modern times, Valkenar, 18-Aug-09 09:07 AM #80
Reply Thing is, incognito, 18-Aug-09 02:42 AM, #79
Reply On time-intensiveness, DurNominator, 18-Aug-09 12:21 AM, #78
Reply The puzzles are what made it, Grudan, 17-Aug-09 11:00 AM, #77
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Xanthrailles, 16-Aug-09 01:58 PM, #73
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Eskelian, 16-Aug-09 01:57 PM, #72
Reply Crackball thought., Quixotic, 16-Aug-09 01:54 PM, #71
Reply Throwdown vs riddle, laxman, 16-Aug-09 08:35 AM, #63
Reply RE: Throwdown vs riddle, Daevryn, 16-Aug-09 10:04 AM, #65
     Reply This sums up the problem with brute force to me, incognito, 16-Aug-09 12:58 PM, #69
          Reply Seriously- Brits don't perma nt, Abernyte, 16-Aug-09 05:09 PM, #74
               Reply RE: Seriously- Brits don't perma nt, incognito, 17-Aug-09 02:44 AM, #75
Reply people don't post cheats to help, bobbyp, 16-Aug-09 08:00 AM, #62
Reply For solo, think less puzzle and more complex, intriguin..., Boon, 15-Aug-09 06:25 PM, #55
Reply my opinion, Jhyrbian, 15-Aug-09 06:09 PM, #54
Reply RE: my opinion, A2, 15-Aug-09 09:40 PM, #56
Reply Very good point, Mekantos, 16-Aug-09 01:09 AM, #58
     Reply RE: Very good point, Daevryn, 16-Aug-09 01:21 AM, #59
          Reply did anyone ever figure out how to talk? nt, Jhyrbian, 16-Aug-09 06:31 AM, #61
               Reply Yep., Daevryn, 16-Aug-09 10:01 AM, #64
                    Reply Btw, Mekantos, 16-Aug-09 12:56 PM, #68
                         Reply RE: Btw, Daevryn, 16-Aug-09 01:02 PM, #70
Reply Both Sides of the Coin, Straklaw, 15-Aug-09 05:12 PM, #52
Reply RE: Both Sides of the Coin, Daevryn, 15-Aug-09 05:26 PM, #53
     Reply RE: Both Sides of the Coin, Aodh, 16-Aug-09 04:15 AM, #60
Reply Personally I'd like to see, Lokain, 15-Aug-09 05:08 PM, #51
Reply I think Lokain's idea has merit., GinGa, 16-Aug-09 11:43 AM, #66
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Isildur, 15-Aug-09 03:42 PM, #47
Reply Quick fix, Mekantos, 15-Aug-09 03:11 PM, #46
Reply That would actually just make it worse, Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 04:49 PM, #50
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, trewyn, 15-Aug-09 02:43 PM, #44
Reply Two points, The Heretic, 15-Aug-09 01:42 PM, #38
Reply Idea with this issue:, GinGa, 16-Aug-09 11:49 AM, #67
     Reply That is the worst example you could have picked, incognito, 17-Aug-09 03:10 AM, #76
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, xander, 15-Aug-09 01:05 PM, #36
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, asylumius, 15-Aug-09 12:25 PM, #33
Reply Long time on-and-offer's thoughts, RandomThinker, 15-Aug-09 11:49 AM, #24
Reply Thumbs down, imo, Mort, 15-Aug-09 11:20 AM, #21
Reply An old-timer's viewpoint, HunterElf, 15-Aug-09 11:21 AM, #20
Reply The biggest thing I think that hurts solo-exploration, _Magus_, 15-Aug-09 11:41 AM, #23
     Reply You are just exploring with the wrong class, Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 11:57 AM, #27
          Reply The problem with that is..., _Magus_, 15-Aug-09 12:09 PM, #29
               Reply RE: The problem with that is..., Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 12:18 PM, #31
                    Reply Not to get off on a tangent..., _Magus_, 15-Aug-09 02:29 PM, #42
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, ORB, 15-Aug-09 10:42 AM, #16
Reply Not a bad idea really! IMM-quest to be able to enter th..., Amberion, 15-Aug-09 11:38 AM, #22
     Reply I don't like Imm quest idea..., ORB, 15-Aug-09 12:42 PM, #35
          Reply I don't like it either..., Zulghinlour, 15-Aug-09 03:04 PM, #45
Reply RE: Secrecy, Splntrd, 15-Aug-09 10:42 AM, #15
Reply Good post n/t, Lokain, 15-Aug-09 12:27 PM, #34
Reply RE: Secrecy, Zulghinlour, 15-Aug-09 01:29 PM, #37
Reply Precisely..., asylumius, 15-Aug-09 02:12 PM, #40
Reply I'm dying with curiosity now nt, Lokain, 15-Aug-09 02:43 PM, #43
Reply I totally agree with you on almost everything..., TMNS, 15-Aug-09 02:26 PM, #41
Reply RE: Secrecy, asylumius, 15-Aug-09 02:08 PM, #39
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Rade, 15-Aug-09 10:37 AM, #14
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Daevryn, 15-Aug-09 10:51 AM, #17
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Splntrd, 15-Aug-09 11:02 AM, #19
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Daevryn, 15-Aug-09 04:13 PM, #49
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 11:56 AM, #26
     Reply Nah., Splntrd, 15-Aug-09 12:08 PM, #28
     Reply RE: Nah., Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 12:16 PM, #30
          Reply Oh, I see what you're getting at. nt, Splntrd, 15-Aug-09 12:19 PM, #32
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Daevryn, 15-Aug-09 04:04 PM, #48
     Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, Rade, 15-Aug-09 11:55 PM, #57
Reply Meh., Iunna, 15-Aug-09 08:44 AM, #12
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, _Magus_, 15-Aug-09 08:22 AM, #11
Reply Does that add anything to the game?, Stunna, 15-Aug-09 07:02 AM, #10
Reply I prefer the puzzle type area, incognito, 15-Aug-09 06:44 AM, #9
Reply Why that won't work, Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 11:53 AM, #25
Reply I almost got into ST..., Aodh, 15-Aug-09 05:57 AM, #7
Reply Why I'm against groups, vargal, 15-Aug-09 06:06 AM, #8
Reply RE: I almost got into ST..., Cerunnir, 15-Aug-09 10:25 AM, #13
Reply Think you know my idea on this..., Torak, 15-Aug-09 04:34 AM, #6
Reply I really like the idea here!, Amberion, 15-Aug-09 10:56 AM, #18
Reply My thoughts on this, fwiw, Mekantos, 15-Aug-09 04:27 AM, #5
Reply No matter what it needs to come back., Guilo, 15-Aug-09 03:30 AM, #4
Reply RE: Silent Tower Rethought.... maybe, vargal, 15-Aug-09 02:32 AM, #3
Reply I wouldn't be against a Silent Reimagining., TMNS, 15-Aug-09 02:20 AM, #1
     Reply RE: I wouldn't be against a Silent Reimagining., Nightgaunt_, 15-Aug-09 02:31 AM, #2
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