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IsildurMon 20-Nov-06 03:19 PM
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#740, "RE: Where in lies your misconception of me."


          

>You've loaded up on the assumption that because I am Pro
>American I am a Racist.

I think he considers you racist for other reasons entirely.

>My problem is assimilation. The Mexicans are not assimilating.

What is assimilation? Did the 19th century Swedes and Norweigans who immigrated to Minnesota assimilat? Then why do they still have their own church denominations, their own ethnic foods, their own holidays and customs? Even a unique accent and ethnic surnames? I'm guessing your criteria for assimilating is speaking English. That's reasonable. Did first-generation Swedish and Norweigan immigrants, living in communities of other Swedes and Norweigans, start speaking English as their everyday language? I'm guessing not. Their children probably did. Or their children's children. If we apply the same criteria to Mexican immigrants, they're really not doing that bad.

Another (obvious) fact is that a large percentage of Mexican immigrants aren't actually citizens. If the U.S. won't even let you be a legal, permanent resident, why should you bother to learn its language and customs? Give more people citizenship and they'll be alot more likely to assimilate.

>They come here demanding intruction and
>instructions in Spanish.

There's nothing magical about English that makes it the necessary "official language" of the United States. It's simpler to only print forms, signs, etc. in English, but that's just an argument from efficiency.

>I would go so far as to say this is the
>number one reason the Republicans lost the elections.

And you'd be wrong. They lost because people were upset about rampant spending related to the Iraq war, and generally associated Republicans with the DeLay and Abrahamof scandals. Also, imho the religious right felt (and not without some reason) like Bush gave them the colossal shaft after they did so much to get him elected.

  

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HOT Locked TopicVote. nt [View all] , Nivek1, Tue 07-Nov-06 05:23 PM
Reply Thread locked due to bloat., Valguarnera, 13-Dec-06 03:14 PM, #94
Reply No. Why? Its pointless. n/t, Eskelian, 11-Nov-06 10:44 AM, #24
Reply That's the exact reason your party won't ever gain any ..., DurNominator, 11-Nov-06 11:32 AM, #25
     Reply Since when do I have a party?, Eskelian, 12-Nov-06 10:57 PM, #26
          Reply RE: Since when do I have a party?, DurNominator, 13-Nov-06 06:50 AM, #28
Reply Grats to Democrats for their victory., DurNominator, 10-Nov-06 02:08 PM, #17
Reply Honestly, it was a beating my party needed., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:52 PM, #20
     Reply RE: Yep., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #39
Reply Macaca! n/t, Grurk Muouk, 08-Nov-06 10:05 AM, #12
Reply Yup., Valguarnera, 08-Nov-06 11:26 AM, #13
     Reply Thank god the Liberal media was there to make it known ..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:45 PM, #18
          Reply Well, it's a real issue., Valguarnera, 10-Nov-06 05:30 PM, #22
               Reply While I'm not a big fan of racism., Eskelian, 12-Nov-06 11:01 PM, #27
                    Reply RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism., Valguarnera, 13-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #29
                         Reply RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism., Tac, 13-Nov-06 12:47 PM, #30
Reply I did!, Valguarnera, 08-Nov-06 09:31 AM, #11
Reply How is it you just can't see the reality of this?, (NOT Pro), 17-Nov-06 12:32 AM, #31
     Reply RE: How is it you just can't see the reality of this?, Daevryn, 17-Nov-06 02:49 AM, #32
     Reply Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 17-Nov-06 11:48 AM, #33
          Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 17-Nov-06 12:00 PM, #34
          Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 17-Nov-06 01:25 PM, #35
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 17-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #36
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 02:47 AM, #37
                    Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 02:58 PM, #43
                         Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:41 PM, #47
                              Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 11:43 PM, #52
                                   Reply Herein we have the reason I call people traitors., (NOT Pro), 21-Nov-06 01:52 AM, #53
                                        Reply I love America, Tac, 21-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #55
                                        Reply Not only are you wrong you are correct., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:30 PM, #82
                                             Reply Since you lack the ability..., Tac, 10-Dec-06 08:25 PM, #87
                                             Reply RE: Not only are you wrong you are correct., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:35 PM, #89
                                                  Reply Along those lines:, Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #91
                                        Reply RE: Herein we have the reason I call people traitors., Isildur, 21-Nov-06 11:24 AM, #57
                                             Reply Past changes., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:33 PM, #83
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 03:04 AM, #38
                    Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 20-Nov-06 10:31 AM, #40
                         Reply Where in lies your misconception of me., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 12:08 PM, #41
                              Reply You poor, poor thing, Aodh, 20-Nov-06 02:09 PM, #42
                              Reply I don't think you understand the debate., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:53 PM, #50
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 03:19 PM #44
                              Reply Abramoff et al..., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:52 PM, #49
                                   Reply RE: Abramoff et al..., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 11:39 PM, #51
                                        Reply None of the Republicans up for reelection took a hard l..., (NOT Pro), 21-Nov-06 01:54 AM, #54
                                             Reply RE: None of the Republicans up for reelection took a ha..., Isildur, 21-Nov-06 11:17 AM, #56
                                                  Reply Colorado is a Democratic State., (NOT Pro), 27-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #59
                                                       Reply What are you even basing that on?, Daevryn, 27-Nov-06 03:47 AM, #60
                                                       Reply He's disconnected from reality., Valguarnera, 27-Nov-06 10:14 AM, #61
                                                       Reply This conversation reminds me of work..., Wilhath, 27-Nov-06 06:54 PM, #64
                                                            Reply So...you're trying to insinuate I'm not Zeus?, Eskelian, 28-Nov-06 02:46 AM, #65
                                                       Reply I based it off my memory, then I checked the official., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:07 PM, #75
                                                       Reply RE: Colorado is a Democratic State., Isildur, 27-Nov-06 10:50 AM, #62
                                                            Reply More Colorado facts!, Valguarnera, 27-Nov-06 11:11 AM, #63
                                                                 Reply Wherein liberals don't get it., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:10 PM, #76
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Daevryn, 10-Dec-06 05:33 PM, #84
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Eskelian, 11-Dec-06 03:15 AM, #93
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 07:11 PM, #85
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:45 PM, #90
                                                                           Reply Some numbers to crunch:, Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 09:30 PM, #92
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., Daevryn, 20-Nov-06 04:00 PM, #45
                              Reply Relative to..., Valguarnera, 20-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #46
                                   Reply Correction., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:46 PM, #48
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., DurNominator, 22-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #58
          Reply I won't speak for Pro, but...., Pendragon_Surtr, 08-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #66
               Reply RE: I won't speak for Pro, but...., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 10:01 AM, #67
                    Reply So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the borders, Pendragon_Surtr, 09-Dec-06 03:36 PM, #68
                    Reply Psst. They are., Valguarnera, 09-Dec-06 04:37 PM, #69
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 06:57 PM, #71
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 10:00 AM, #73
                         Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 11:41 AM, #74
                              Reply Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here legal..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:18 PM, #79
                                   Reply RE: Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here l..., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:29 PM, #88
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Pendragon_Surtr, 09-Dec-06 08:16 PM, #72
                    Reply A huge contributor to the problem of "Jobs we don't wan..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:27 PM, #81
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:22 PM, #86
                    Reply These peopl are invaders., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:16 PM, #78
                    Reply RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord..., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 06:49 PM, #70
                         Reply RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:24 PM, #80
                    Reply We don't want or need everyone to come here., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:12 PM, #77
Reply Vote third party. nt, Tac, 07-Nov-06 05:38 PM, #1
     Reply From my conservative standpoint..., Nivek1, 07-Nov-06 06:16 PM, #2
          Reply From my intelligent viewpoint, some shouldn't vote...., Tac, 07-Nov-06 06:38 PM, #3
          Reply I choose not to vote... and I'll tell you why..., Saith, 07-Nov-06 06:44 PM, #4
               Reply You have a good point, Drag0nSt0rm, 07-Nov-06 06:59 PM, #5
               Reply Is bad point, Tac, 07-Nov-06 07:04 PM, #7
               Reply One thing that makes me laugh, but cry inside at the sa..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:55 PM, #21
               Reply I've been there..., Tac, 07-Nov-06 07:03 PM, #6
               Reply RE: I've been there..., Saith, 08-Nov-06 12:51 AM, #8
               Reply How sad, DurNominator, 08-Nov-06 04:14 AM, #9
                    Reply You'll get no argument from me..., Tac, 08-Nov-06 09:14 AM, #10
                    Reply RE: How sad, Rho, 09-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #16
                    Reply So..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:49 PM, #19
                         Reply Your going to elect only one president, DurNominator, 11-Nov-06 12:49 AM, #23
               Reply here's where you're wrong, Isildur, 08-Nov-06 06:06 PM, #14
                    Reply Good idea... didn't think about that...nt, Saith, 08-Nov-06 09:36 PM, #15
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