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ValguarneraMon 20-Nov-06 05:21 PM
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Well, he responded to say that he considered Fox News to be the center. From that perspective, any international source (even the BBC and Der Speigel) looks left, as does the rest of television, and any wide-circulation print media. Even the Wall Street Journal and such looks left of Fox News, since it's primarily purely fiscally conservative, compared to Fox's preference for a blend of conservatism and authoritarianism (*).

(For perspective, one of the Speigel's leads right now is "NATO CHAOS DEEPENS IN AFGHANISTAN: The Germans Have to Learn How to Kill", favoring an increase in combat missions for the German troops in Afghanistan.)

America doesn't really have a far left, in the sense that most European countries do. While the Senate now has a self-described Socialist member-elect (Bernie Sanders), for the most part it's a choice between intermediate capitalism and strong capitalism. A combination of religion and xenophobia has bred a far right capable of electing officials regionally, however.

Most political "tests" (and my undergraduate TAs) categorize me as a barely left-leaning, but strongly Libertarian (**)-- small, socially permissive government, economic capitalism with a moderate safety net. I just look far left next to Shooty McKlansman over here.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

(*) I view neither the outgoing Congress nor the current Executive branch as "conservative", since they do nothing to limit the scope of government (in fact, they expand it), and have attempted to change long-standing principles in a radical fashion. I think the Executive Branch is best-described as "authoritarian"-- primarily interested in consolidating power in a single entity with limited or absent accountability.

(**): Very separate axes, really.

  

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HOT Locked TopicVote. nt [View all] , Nivek1, Tue 07-Nov-06 05:23 PM
Reply Thread locked due to bloat., Valguarnera, 13-Dec-06 03:14 PM, #94
Reply No. Why? Its pointless. n/t, Eskelian, 11-Nov-06 10:44 AM, #24
Reply That's the exact reason your party won't ever gain any ..., DurNominator, 11-Nov-06 11:32 AM, #25
     Reply Since when do I have a party?, Eskelian, 12-Nov-06 10:57 PM, #26
          Reply RE: Since when do I have a party?, DurNominator, 13-Nov-06 06:50 AM, #28
Reply Grats to Democrats for their victory., DurNominator, 10-Nov-06 02:08 PM, #17
Reply Honestly, it was a beating my party needed., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:52 PM, #20
     Reply RE: Yep., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #39
Reply Macaca! n/t, Grurk Muouk, 08-Nov-06 10:05 AM, #12
Reply Yup., Valguarnera, 08-Nov-06 11:26 AM, #13
     Reply Thank god the Liberal media was there to make it known ..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:45 PM, #18
          Reply Well, it's a real issue., Valguarnera, 10-Nov-06 05:30 PM, #22
               Reply While I'm not a big fan of racism., Eskelian, 12-Nov-06 11:01 PM, #27
                    Reply RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism., Valguarnera, 13-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #29
                         Reply RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism., Tac, 13-Nov-06 12:47 PM, #30
Reply I did!, Valguarnera, 08-Nov-06 09:31 AM, #11
Reply How is it you just can't see the reality of this?, (NOT Pro), 17-Nov-06 12:32 AM, #31
     Reply RE: How is it you just can't see the reality of this?, Daevryn, 17-Nov-06 02:49 AM, #32
     Reply Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 17-Nov-06 11:48 AM, #33
          Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 17-Nov-06 12:00 PM, #34
          Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 17-Nov-06 01:25 PM, #35
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 17-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #36
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 02:47 AM, #37
                    Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 02:58 PM, #43
                         Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:41 PM, #47
                              Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 11:43 PM, #52
                                   Reply Herein we have the reason I call people traitors., (NOT Pro), 21-Nov-06 01:52 AM, #53
                                        Reply I love America, Tac, 21-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #55
                                        Reply Not only are you wrong you are correct., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:30 PM, #82
                                             Reply Since you lack the ability..., Tac, 10-Dec-06 08:25 PM, #87
                                             Reply RE: Not only are you wrong you are correct., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:35 PM, #89
                                                  Reply Along those lines:, Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #91
                                        Reply RE: Herein we have the reason I call people traitors., Isildur, 21-Nov-06 11:24 AM, #57
                                             Reply Past changes., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:33 PM, #83
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 03:04 AM, #38
                    Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 20-Nov-06 10:31 AM, #40
                         Reply Where in lies your misconception of me., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 12:08 PM, #41
                              Reply You poor, poor thing, Aodh, 20-Nov-06 02:09 PM, #42
                              Reply I don't think you understand the debate., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:53 PM, #50
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 03:19 PM, #44
                              Reply Abramoff et al..., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:52 PM, #49
                                   Reply RE: Abramoff et al..., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 11:39 PM, #51
                                        Reply None of the Republicans up for reelection took a hard l..., (NOT Pro), 21-Nov-06 01:54 AM, #54
                                             Reply RE: None of the Republicans up for reelection took a ha..., Isildur, 21-Nov-06 11:17 AM, #56
                                                  Reply Colorado is a Democratic State., (NOT Pro), 27-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #59
                                                       Reply What are you even basing that on?, Daevryn, 27-Nov-06 03:47 AM, #60
                                                       Reply He's disconnected from reality., Valguarnera, 27-Nov-06 10:14 AM, #61
                                                       Reply This conversation reminds me of work..., Wilhath, 27-Nov-06 06:54 PM, #64
                                                            Reply So...you're trying to insinuate I'm not Zeus?, Eskelian, 28-Nov-06 02:46 AM, #65
                                                       Reply I based it off my memory, then I checked the official., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:07 PM, #75
                                                       Reply RE: Colorado is a Democratic State., Isildur, 27-Nov-06 10:50 AM, #62
                                                            Reply More Colorado facts!, Valguarnera, 27-Nov-06 11:11 AM, #63
                                                                 Reply Wherein liberals don't get it., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:10 PM, #76
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Daevryn, 10-Dec-06 05:33 PM, #84
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Eskelian, 11-Dec-06 03:15 AM, #93
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 07:11 PM, #85
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:45 PM, #90
                                                                           Reply Some numbers to crunch:, Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 09:30 PM, #92
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., Daevryn, 20-Nov-06 04:00 PM, #45
                              Reply Relative to..., Valguarnera, 20-Nov-06 05:21 PM #46
                                   Reply Correction., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:46 PM, #48
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., DurNominator, 22-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #58
          Reply I won't speak for Pro, but...., Pendragon_Surtr, 08-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #66
               Reply RE: I won't speak for Pro, but...., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 10:01 AM, #67
                    Reply So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the borders, Pendragon_Surtr, 09-Dec-06 03:36 PM, #68
                    Reply Psst. They are., Valguarnera, 09-Dec-06 04:37 PM, #69
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 06:57 PM, #71
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 10:00 AM, #73
                         Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 11:41 AM, #74
                              Reply Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here legal..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:18 PM, #79
                                   Reply RE: Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here l..., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:29 PM, #88
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Pendragon_Surtr, 09-Dec-06 08:16 PM, #72
                    Reply A huge contributor to the problem of "Jobs we don't wan..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:27 PM, #81
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:22 PM, #86
                    Reply These peopl are invaders., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:16 PM, #78
                    Reply RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord..., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 06:49 PM, #70
                         Reply RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:24 PM, #80
                    Reply We don't want or need everyone to come here., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:12 PM, #77
Reply Vote third party. nt, Tac, 07-Nov-06 05:38 PM, #1
     Reply From my conservative standpoint..., Nivek1, 07-Nov-06 06:16 PM, #2
          Reply From my intelligent viewpoint, some shouldn't vote...., Tac, 07-Nov-06 06:38 PM, #3
          Reply I choose not to vote... and I'll tell you why..., Saith, 07-Nov-06 06:44 PM, #4
               Reply You have a good point, Drag0nSt0rm, 07-Nov-06 06:59 PM, #5
               Reply Is bad point, Tac, 07-Nov-06 07:04 PM, #7
               Reply One thing that makes me laugh, but cry inside at the sa..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:55 PM, #21
               Reply I've been there..., Tac, 07-Nov-06 07:03 PM, #6
               Reply RE: I've been there..., Saith, 08-Nov-06 12:51 AM, #8
               Reply How sad, DurNominator, 08-Nov-06 04:14 AM, #9
                    Reply You'll get no argument from me..., Tac, 08-Nov-06 09:14 AM, #10
                    Reply RE: How sad, Rho, 09-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #16
                    Reply So..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:49 PM, #19
                         Reply Your going to elect only one president, DurNominator, 11-Nov-06 12:49 AM, #23
               Reply here's where you're wrong, Isildur, 08-Nov-06 06:06 PM, #14
                    Reply Good idea... didn't think about that...nt, Saith, 08-Nov-06 09:36 PM, #15
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