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#784, "RE: Psst. They are."
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And "free >medical attention" amounts to minimal emergency services, just >like visitors, tourists, felons, and any other humans within >our borders get.
Really, 'free' minimal emergency services. Well, I have no health insurance and no free medical services, I have the thousands of dollars of unpaid medical bills to prove it.
> >Wake the #### up. The people in these situations are >desperate.
We have plenty of desperate people in America already, legal citizens, people who are supposed to be here, have social security cards, lets try helping them first. We continue to ignore our homeless, hungry citizens while sending money and food overseas. It's time to start taking care of ourselves for once. They aren't cruising around on a free meal ticket. > The current system amounts to "look the other way" which >benefits you at their expense (cost of living, >primarily), not the other way around.
Hm, the illegal alien I saw on CNN a few months ago, when the hispanic community was going to organize a 1 day strike, didn't seem too bad off. He was self employed, did roofing jobs, owned 2 cars and his wife looked well dressed. Yep, must suck being that bad off. Now tell me how looking the other way "benifits" me? How does it benefit other small time roofing contractors that are losing business to this person who doesn't exist in America?
Keep pretending that these aliens are a benefit to our country and that they only do jobs that we don't want to. The truth is, we have plenty of people who would do the same job if the employers paid better, but since the employers can pay cash under the table at $2/hr, the Americans lose out.
>The system needs reform, but the likely direction it will go >is towards allowing large numbers of people in legally, >pending minimal checks for criminal backgrounds and such. It >worked wonders for us a century ago, even over the protests of >people who thought "inferior" Irish, Polish, Jewish, Italian, >etc. immigrants would ruin their country.
If we are to reform the system to allow more immigrants in legally, we first have to block the leak in the dam that's about to burst. Stop the constant flow of mexicans illegally crossing the border, kick the illegal aliens out, assign a committee to look at the population of the US and determine how many immigrants can enter our country per year without becoming a burden to taxpayers and set up a program to watch these immigrants for a year or two to ensure that they have the same quality of pay and benefits expected of any other US citizen.
My Grandfather came to America as a child over 90 years ago. His father went through the immigration system during the time you are talking about, the difference is, he didn't sneak over. He wasn't here on a work permit and never left, he did things legally.
I find it hard to believe there are so many Liberals out there that honestly believe that there is nothing wrong with breaking the law, or that when one is caught breaking the law, it should go unpunished. I am lower middle class, a million dollars would greatly improve my quality of life, if I commit a crime such as robbing a bank to improve my life, should it go unpunished?
I firmly believe that we need to do something about the growing number of illegals in this country. I have reported one place of business to the INS already. A place in Chicago that employed 90% hispanics, none of them spoke english. I don't know if anything ever came of it though, I haven't been back since.
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[View all] , Nivek1, Tue 07-Nov-06 05:23 PM
Thread locked due to bloat.,
Valguarnera,
13-Dec-06 03:14 PM, #94
No. Why? Its pointless. n/t,
Eskelian,
11-Nov-06 10:44 AM, #24
That's the exact reason your party won't ever gain any ...,
DurNominator,
11-Nov-06 11:32 AM, #25
Since when do I have a party?,
Eskelian,
12-Nov-06 10:57 PM, #26
RE: Since when do I have a party?,
DurNominator,
13-Nov-06 06:50 AM, #28
Grats to Democrats for their victory.,
DurNominator,
10-Nov-06 02:08 PM, #17
Honestly, it was a beating my party needed.,
Minyar,
10-Nov-06 04:52 PM, #20
RE: Yep.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #39
Macaca! n/t,
Grurk Muouk,
08-Nov-06 10:05 AM, #12
Yup.,
Valguarnera,
08-Nov-06 11:26 AM, #13
Thank god the Liberal media was there to make it known ...,
Minyar,
10-Nov-06 04:45 PM, #18
Well, it's a real issue.,
Valguarnera,
10-Nov-06 05:30 PM, #22
While I'm not a big fan of racism.,
Eskelian,
12-Nov-06 11:01 PM, #27
RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism.,
Valguarnera,
13-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #29
RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism.,
Tac,
13-Nov-06 12:47 PM, #30
I did!,
Valguarnera,
08-Nov-06 09:31 AM, #11
How is it you just can't see the reality of this?,
(NOT Pro),
17-Nov-06 12:32 AM, #31
RE: How is it you just can't see the reality of this?,
Daevryn,
17-Nov-06 02:49 AM, #32
Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Valguarnera,
17-Nov-06 11:48 AM, #33
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Isildur,
17-Nov-06 12:00 PM, #34
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Valguarnera,
17-Nov-06 01:25 PM, #35
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Isildur,
17-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #36
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 02:47 AM, #37
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Isildur,
20-Nov-06 02:58 PM, #43
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 08:41 PM, #47
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Isildur,
20-Nov-06 11:43 PM, #52
Herein we have the reason I call people traitors.,
(NOT Pro),
21-Nov-06 01:52 AM, #53
I love America,
Tac,
21-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #55
Not only are you wrong you are correct.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:30 PM, #82
Since you lack the ability...,
Tac,
10-Dec-06 08:25 PM, #87
RE: Not only are you wrong you are correct.,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 08:35 PM, #89
Along those lines:,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #91
RE: Herein we have the reason I call people traitors.,
Isildur,
21-Nov-06 11:24 AM, #57
Past changes.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:33 PM, #83
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 03:04 AM, #38
RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread.,
Valguarnera,
20-Nov-06 10:31 AM, #40
Where in lies your misconception of me.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 12:08 PM, #41
You poor, poor thing,
Aodh,
20-Nov-06 02:09 PM, #42
I don't think you understand the debate.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 08:53 PM, #50
RE: Where in lies your misconception of me.,
Isildur,
20-Nov-06 03:19 PM, #44
Abramoff et al...,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 08:52 PM, #49
RE: Abramoff et al...,
Isildur,
20-Nov-06 11:39 PM, #51
None of the Republicans up for reelection took a hard l...,
(NOT Pro),
21-Nov-06 01:54 AM, #54
RE: None of the Republicans up for reelection took a ha...,
Isildur,
21-Nov-06 11:17 AM, #56
Colorado is a Democratic State.,
(NOT Pro),
27-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #59
What are you even basing that on?,
Daevryn,
27-Nov-06 03:47 AM, #60
He's disconnected from reality.,
Valguarnera,
27-Nov-06 10:14 AM, #61
This conversation reminds me of work...,
Wilhath,
27-Nov-06 06:54 PM, #64
So...you're trying to insinuate I'm not Zeus?,
Eskelian,
28-Nov-06 02:46 AM, #65
I based it off my memory, then I checked the official.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:07 PM, #75
RE: Colorado is a Democratic State.,
Isildur,
27-Nov-06 10:50 AM, #62
More Colorado facts!,
Valguarnera,
27-Nov-06 11:11 AM, #63
Wherein liberals don't get it.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:10 PM, #76
RE: Wherein liberals don't get it.,
Daevryn,
10-Dec-06 05:33 PM, #84
RE: Wherein liberals don't get it.,
Eskelian,
11-Dec-06 03:15 AM, #93
RE: Wherein liberals don't get it.,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 07:11 PM, #85
RE: Wherein liberals don't get it.,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 08:45 PM, #90
Some numbers to crunch:,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 09:30 PM, #92
RE: Where in lies your misconception of me.,
Daevryn,
20-Nov-06 04:00 PM, #45
Relative to...,
Valguarnera,
20-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #46
Correction.,
(NOT Pro),
20-Nov-06 08:46 PM, #48
RE: Where in lies your misconception of me.,
DurNominator,
22-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #58
I won't speak for Pro, but....,
Pendragon_Surtr,
08-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #66
RE: I won't speak for Pro, but....,
Isildur,
09-Dec-06 10:01 AM, #67
So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the borders,
Pendragon_Surtr,
09-Dec-06 03:36 PM, #68
Psst. They are.,
Valguarnera,
09-Dec-06 04:37 PM, #69
RE: Psst. They are.,
Isildur,
09-Dec-06 06:57 PM, #71
RE: Psst. They are.,
Valguarnera,
10-Dec-06 10:00 AM, #73
RE: Psst. They are.,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 11:41 AM, #74
Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here legal...,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:18 PM, #79
RE: Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here l...,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 08:29 PM, #88
RE: Psst. They are.,
Pendragon_Surtr,
09-Dec-06 08:16 PM #72
A huge contributor to the problem of "Jobs we don't wan...,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:27 PM, #81
RE: Psst. They are.,
Isildur,
10-Dec-06 08:22 PM, #86
These peopl are invaders.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:16 PM, #78
RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord...,
Isildur,
09-Dec-06 06:49 PM, #70
RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord...,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:24 PM, #80
We don't want or need everyone to come here.,
(NOT Pro),
10-Dec-06 01:12 PM, #77
Vote third party. nt,
Tac,
07-Nov-06 05:38 PM, #1
From my conservative standpoint...,
Nivek1,
07-Nov-06 06:16 PM, #2
From my intelligent viewpoint, some shouldn't vote....,
Tac,
07-Nov-06 06:38 PM, #3
I choose not to vote... and I'll tell you why...,
Saith,
07-Nov-06 06:44 PM, #4
You have a good point,
Drag0nSt0rm,
07-Nov-06 06:59 PM, #5
Is bad point,
Tac,
07-Nov-06 07:04 PM, #7
One thing that makes me laugh, but cry inside at the sa...,
Minyar,
10-Nov-06 04:55 PM, #21
I've been there...,
Tac,
07-Nov-06 07:03 PM, #6
RE: I've been there...,
Saith,
08-Nov-06 12:51 AM, #8
How sad,
DurNominator,
08-Nov-06 04:14 AM, #9
You'll get no argument from me...,
Tac,
08-Nov-06 09:14 AM, #10
RE: How sad,
Rho,
09-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #16
So...,
Minyar,
10-Nov-06 04:49 PM, #19
Your going to elect only one president,
DurNominator,
11-Nov-06 12:49 AM, #23
here's where you're wrong,
Isildur,
08-Nov-06 06:06 PM, #14
Good idea... didn't think about that...nt,
Saith,
08-Nov-06 09:36 PM, #15
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