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DurNominatorMon 13-Nov-06 06:41 AM
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#712, "RE: Since when do I have a party?"
Edited on Mon 13-Nov-06 06:50 AM

          

>You actually think I like the ####faces in Column A or the
>####faces in Column B?

The political spectrum is wider in Finland than it is in United States. We currently have eight parties(National Coalition party(conservative, 42 seats), Centre party(rural/coutryside, 54 seats), Social Democratic party(slightly on left, 53 seats), Left Alliance(left, 19 seats), Green League(enviromental, 14 seats) Swedish People's Party(9 seats), Christian Democratic Party(Christian values(whatever they mean) 6 seats) and Basic Finns(Corner patriotic(against EU), 3 seats)) in the parliament, so there is more to choose from than in USA. The little extremist parties like Liberals(to whom National Coalition wasn't right wing enough), Communists(to whom Left Alliance wasn't left enough) and Neo-Nazis(corner patriotic racists) don't tend to make it to the government. Also, there have been cases where a single independent candidate makes it to the parliament. One such example is Pertti "Veltto" Virtanen, who calls him self humane shaman, who went to the parliament because he got many votes that would have otherwise been given to Donald Duck.

The academic Green candidate I voted for last time was elected to the parliament. Like most people who vote Greens, I'm a shifting voter who switches party loyalties like jacket if their line doesn't

>The whole slew of them are useless lying ####bags who I
>wouldn't hire to watch my dog let alone run my country.

That's more true in America where campaigns contain too much throwing dirt on the other candidate. We Finns value honesty and expect the politicians to try to keep their promises. That puts some pressure on the politicians on what they will promise to people.

>The system sucks because a bus full of mentally handicapped
>people have more input into our government than a tax paying
>citizen like myself does and as such its much like playing
>craps against loaded dice.

Democracy is dictatorship on majority. Would you prefer aristocratic system where only select few have power?

>Guess what, if you're like most
>CF'ers, probably top 10% SAT Scoring (I know you're not an
>American, but bear with me here)

I'm not familiar with SAT, but if it's comparable to IQ tests, then yes(my IQ test scores varying between 135 and 145 depending on the test and it's nature).

>you aren't their target audience. They don't care
>about your opinion or your vote, because there's another 13
>million dumbasses that will vote for them because "they are
>for education" (while simultaneously, doing absolutely nothing
>consequential about it).

Vote the ones that actually consider you as their target audience. If no-one is good, you might as well not vote or run for the office yourself and vote yourself.

  

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HOT Locked TopicVote. nt [View all] , Nivek1, Tue 07-Nov-06 05:23 PM
Reply Thread locked due to bloat., Valguarnera, 13-Dec-06 03:14 PM, #94
Reply No. Why? Its pointless. n/t, Eskelian, 11-Nov-06 10:44 AM, #24
Reply That's the exact reason your party won't ever gain any ..., DurNominator, 11-Nov-06 11:32 AM, #25
     Reply Since when do I have a party?, Eskelian, 12-Nov-06 10:57 PM, #26
          Reply RE: Since when do I have a party?, DurNominator, 13-Nov-06 06:50 AM #28
Reply Grats to Democrats for their victory., DurNominator, 10-Nov-06 02:08 PM, #17
Reply Honestly, it was a beating my party needed., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:52 PM, #20
     Reply RE: Yep., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #39
Reply Macaca! n/t, Grurk Muouk, 08-Nov-06 10:05 AM, #12
Reply Yup., Valguarnera, 08-Nov-06 11:26 AM, #13
     Reply Thank god the Liberal media was there to make it known ..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:45 PM, #18
          Reply Well, it's a real issue., Valguarnera, 10-Nov-06 05:30 PM, #22
               Reply While I'm not a big fan of racism., Eskelian, 12-Nov-06 11:01 PM, #27
                    Reply RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism., Valguarnera, 13-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #29
                         Reply RE: While I'm not a big fan of racism., Tac, 13-Nov-06 12:47 PM, #30
Reply I did!, Valguarnera, 08-Nov-06 09:31 AM, #11
Reply How is it you just can't see the reality of this?, (NOT Pro), 17-Nov-06 12:32 AM, #31
     Reply RE: How is it you just can't see the reality of this?, Daevryn, 17-Nov-06 02:49 AM, #32
     Reply Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 17-Nov-06 11:48 AM, #33
          Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 17-Nov-06 12:00 PM, #34
          Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 17-Nov-06 01:25 PM, #35
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 17-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #36
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 02:47 AM, #37
                    Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 02:58 PM, #43
                         Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:41 PM, #47
                              Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 11:43 PM, #52
                                   Reply Herein we have the reason I call people traitors., (NOT Pro), 21-Nov-06 01:52 AM, #53
                                        Reply I love America, Tac, 21-Nov-06 09:25 AM, #55
                                        Reply Not only are you wrong you are correct., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:30 PM, #82
                                             Reply Since you lack the ability..., Tac, 10-Dec-06 08:25 PM, #87
                                             Reply RE: Not only are you wrong you are correct., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:35 PM, #89
                                                  Reply Along those lines:, Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #91
                                        Reply RE: Herein we have the reason I call people traitors., Isildur, 21-Nov-06 11:24 AM, #57
                                             Reply Past changes., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:33 PM, #83
               Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 03:04 AM, #38
                    Reply RE: Wherein I Godwin the thread., Valguarnera, 20-Nov-06 10:31 AM, #40
                         Reply Where in lies your misconception of me., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 12:08 PM, #41
                              Reply You poor, poor thing, Aodh, 20-Nov-06 02:09 PM, #42
                              Reply I don't think you understand the debate., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:53 PM, #50
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 03:19 PM, #44
                              Reply Abramoff et al..., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:52 PM, #49
                                   Reply RE: Abramoff et al..., Isildur, 20-Nov-06 11:39 PM, #51
                                        Reply None of the Republicans up for reelection took a hard l..., (NOT Pro), 21-Nov-06 01:54 AM, #54
                                             Reply RE: None of the Republicans up for reelection took a ha..., Isildur, 21-Nov-06 11:17 AM, #56
                                                  Reply Colorado is a Democratic State., (NOT Pro), 27-Nov-06 03:07 AM, #59
                                                       Reply What are you even basing that on?, Daevryn, 27-Nov-06 03:47 AM, #60
                                                       Reply He's disconnected from reality., Valguarnera, 27-Nov-06 10:14 AM, #61
                                                       Reply This conversation reminds me of work..., Wilhath, 27-Nov-06 06:54 PM, #64
                                                            Reply So...you're trying to insinuate I'm not Zeus?, Eskelian, 28-Nov-06 02:46 AM, #65
                                                       Reply I based it off my memory, then I checked the official., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:07 PM, #75
                                                       Reply RE: Colorado is a Democratic State., Isildur, 27-Nov-06 10:50 AM, #62
                                                            Reply More Colorado facts!, Valguarnera, 27-Nov-06 11:11 AM, #63
                                                                 Reply Wherein liberals don't get it., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:10 PM, #76
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Daevryn, 10-Dec-06 05:33 PM, #84
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Eskelian, 11-Dec-06 03:15 AM, #93
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 07:11 PM, #85
                                                                      Reply RE: Wherein liberals don't get it., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:45 PM, #90
                                                                           Reply Some numbers to crunch:, Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 09:30 PM, #92
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., Daevryn, 20-Nov-06 04:00 PM, #45
                              Reply Relative to..., Valguarnera, 20-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #46
                                   Reply Correction., (NOT Pro), 20-Nov-06 08:46 PM, #48
                              Reply RE: Where in lies your misconception of me., DurNominator, 22-Nov-06 02:32 PM, #58
          Reply I won't speak for Pro, but...., Pendragon_Surtr, 08-Dec-06 09:07 PM, #66
               Reply RE: I won't speak for Pro, but...., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 10:01 AM, #67
                    Reply So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the borders, Pendragon_Surtr, 09-Dec-06 03:36 PM, #68
                    Reply Psst. They are., Valguarnera, 09-Dec-06 04:37 PM, #69
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 06:57 PM, #71
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Valguarnera, 10-Dec-06 10:00 AM, #73
                         Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 11:41 AM, #74
                              Reply Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here legal..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:18 PM, #79
                                   Reply RE: Which is why I'm boggled by you wanting more here l..., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:29 PM, #88
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Pendragon_Surtr, 09-Dec-06 08:16 PM, #72
                    Reply A huge contributor to the problem of "Jobs we don't wan..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:27 PM, #81
                    Reply RE: Psst. They are., Isildur, 10-Dec-06 08:22 PM, #86
                    Reply These peopl are invaders., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:16 PM, #78
                    Reply RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord..., Isildur, 09-Dec-06 06:49 PM, #70
                         Reply RE: So we should allow illegal aliens to cross the bord..., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:24 PM, #80
                    Reply We don't want or need everyone to come here., (NOT Pro), 10-Dec-06 01:12 PM, #77
Reply Vote third party. nt, Tac, 07-Nov-06 05:38 PM, #1
     Reply From my conservative standpoint..., Nivek1, 07-Nov-06 06:16 PM, #2
          Reply From my intelligent viewpoint, some shouldn't vote...., Tac, 07-Nov-06 06:38 PM, #3
          Reply I choose not to vote... and I'll tell you why..., Saith, 07-Nov-06 06:44 PM, #4
               Reply You have a good point, Drag0nSt0rm, 07-Nov-06 06:59 PM, #5
               Reply Is bad point, Tac, 07-Nov-06 07:04 PM, #7
               Reply One thing that makes me laugh, but cry inside at the sa..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:55 PM, #21
               Reply I've been there..., Tac, 07-Nov-06 07:03 PM, #6
               Reply RE: I've been there..., Saith, 08-Nov-06 12:51 AM, #8
               Reply How sad, DurNominator, 08-Nov-06 04:14 AM, #9
                    Reply You'll get no argument from me..., Tac, 08-Nov-06 09:14 AM, #10
                    Reply RE: How sad, Rho, 09-Nov-06 05:21 PM, #16
                    Reply So..., Minyar, 10-Nov-06 04:49 PM, #19
                         Reply Your going to elect only one president, DurNominator, 11-Nov-06 12:49 AM, #23
               Reply here's where you're wrong, Isildur, 08-Nov-06 06:06 PM, #14
                    Reply Good idea... didn't think about that...nt, Saith, 08-Nov-06 09:36 PM, #15
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