I'd hate for this ti turn into any form of a flame war, however:

This is a game. If at any point I have to lie over any aspect of a
game, I'll give it up.

As Thror, I may not come straight out and give you all of the answers
or hold your hand in any situation, but I'll never outright lie to
you. I calls em how I sees em. It's a shame you would think
otherwise.
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I'm not trying to flame either, it was a statement of how something you said, which turned out to not be true, made me feel. You told Goapa and Grolgthus that you had seen Lob, and he had been on and doing things, and basically tore us a new one for daring to say he wasn't ever around. At the time I felt like a giant ass, because I figured it was true. After we found out that he had NOT in fact been on, meaning you could NOT have seen him, I felt like I was no longer the giant ass in the equation.

We had a valid concern about the state of the village, and were seeking an answer. You basically made us both out to be impatient disloyal assholes, and made us feel this way wrongly. It just makes me question how seriously you take valid complaints about things happening within the village.

As for not holding our hands, we asked for guidance. When none was forthcoming, we made the best of things and decided to take the reigns and give things a little direction, for which we were chastised. Thats a little different than asking to have our hands held. We were in the middle of a war, a war that, without leadership wasn't going well for us. Goapa was spot on with his notes to the village. Whatever came after is irrelevant, and doesn't change the relevance the notes had at the time.