Knac | Sun 14-Oct-12 06:10 PM |
Member since 07th May 2010
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#47469, "RE: I started this thread because of Narissorin's deletion."
Edited on Sun 14-Oct-12 06:29 PM
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Didn't play with Narissorin. If he deleted because of that, he needs to take a few weeks/months from the GAME and do something else. Why the hell would he be so pissed off? That's ####ing stupid. That's like Jerrokrar talking - "Oh, it's so unfair that I wasn't rewarded for being a douchebag, look at everyone else being reward!"
People, just be concerned about your own characters and having fun with your own characters.
The problems is likely the players, as you stated. But you're asking the imms (arguably rightfully) to babysit the players. Note that arguably the reasons why imms give "rude" remarks is because a lot of times, these aren't issues, but just what people perceive as a temporal thing because of ONE or TWO incidences. The sample size of those incidences, in contrast to how often such rewards are being given, is minmal. <5% probably. And that's a double edged sword - since it's so minimal, people will notice it infinitely more.
TMNS - your intents are fine, but realistically, are a moot point because the imms can't act in ways that are preventive. They don't have the time nor the incentive to. Notice that there's a bug board? That's for something that is actual. Notice when Zhulg or Scarab was like "#### this ####, I'm pulling seasonal races" when people were bitching about "preventive" #### on the fact that seasonal races, since they will be deleted shortly, are gonna be a failure?
Would you want them to act in a preventive way? Who sets the standards? If they voluntarily assume control over that (jebus, I'm thinking about duty through torts and crim law ), then if they don't act in such a way, there will be A LOT MORE BITCHING of "why didn't you do this, why didn't you do that, etc." And that's a territory that they don't want to enter unless they reasonably think there's enough evidence to act like that. It's not a job for them, it's something that they want to have fun in. It's also a bureacracy (arguably) where they truly have to consider issues before implementing changes. And they don't want to do their duty like that.
Additionally, the imms acting in a preventive capacity means they are acting regulators. That's boring work for people who are admins for creative purposes. If people insist that they act like that and they cave in, I guarantee you that there will be a LOT LESS new and fun stuff in the game, which, in turn, would turn more people off from playing the game then the perceivable "overpowerness of gamechanging rewards"
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Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has become...
[View all] , TMNS, Tue 16-Oct-12 01:10 AM
RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be...,
SideStrider,
26-Oct-12 06:02 PM, #137
Roles aren't about story quality.,
Tesline,
26-Oct-12 06:32 PM, #138
Role XP Note,
Reksah,
30-Oct-12 03:08 PM, #146
Ummmmmmmmmm....,
Stunna,
16-Oct-12 12:38 PM, #131
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal...,
Quixotic,
14-Oct-12 11:39 PM, #114
Shockingly enough this threat made things a lot more cl...,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 11:56 PM, #117
My take.,
Graatch,
14-Oct-12 09:24 PM, #108
I can support this. nt,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 09:25 PM, #109
What my boy Graatch said. nt,
Dallevian,
14-Oct-12 09:26 PM, #110
I support this fully.,
Zephon,
14-Oct-12 09:33 PM, #111
I agree too. nt,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 11:28 PM, #112
Agreed (n/t),
orangepowered,
15-Oct-12 09:18 AM, #120
RE: My take.,
Daevryn,
15-Oct-12 06:05 PM, #121
God I just want to punch you in the face sometimes.,
TMNS,
15-Oct-12 06:22 PM, #122
RE: God I just want to punch you in the face sometimes.,
Daevryn,
19-Oct-12 04:25 PM, #133
Are you some kind of robotman? =P NT,
vargal,
19-Oct-12 05:16 PM, #135
Not necessarily knee-capping...,
TMNS,
19-Oct-12 08:06 PM, #136
Just saw a log and nearly pooped myself. Really?,
TMNS,
29-Oct-12 04:55 PM, #139
RE: Just saw a log and nearly pooped myself. Really?,
Daevryn,
29-Oct-12 05:21 PM, #140
I really want to punch you in the face.,
TMNS,
29-Oct-12 05:34 PM, #141
RE: I really want to punch you in the face.,
Daevryn,
29-Oct-12 06:40 PM, #142
I've got logs to post later (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
29-Oct-12 07:13 PM, #143
naked logs? nt,
Dallevian,
29-Oct-12 08:04 PM, #144
Organic logs? nt,
Tsunami,
29-Oct-12 08:29 PM, #145
Gotta say, this sounds cool.,
Zephon,
16-Oct-12 12:17 AM, #127
This. nt,
colospgsbryan,
15-Oct-12 09:46 PM, #125
Also, FWIW (to the "He has sour grapes" crew) I donated...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 08:32 PM, #106
I am also unconcerned.,
Akresius,
14-Oct-12 07:01 PM, #95
Feh. Said that other post would be my last...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 07:16 PM, #97
Clearly you need some things outlined for you.,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 07:29 PM, #99
Because you completely missed the point...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 07:48 PM, #100
RE: Because you completely missed the point...,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 08:42 PM, #107
RE: Feh. Said that other post would be my last...,
Akresius,
14-Oct-12 07:58 PM, #102
Just some points on your post.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 08:13 PM, #104
How do you automate judging what is good RP?,
DurNominator,
14-Oct-12 11:42 PM, #115
This system I propose would only automate the rewards g...,
TMNS,
15-Oct-12 11:09 PM, #126
RE: I am also unconcerned.,
DurNominator,
14-Oct-12 11:54 PM, #116
If I may...,
Bajula,
15-Oct-12 02:34 AM, #118
False assumption,
Akresius,
15-Oct-12 07:36 PM, #123
Acutally, he is saying you dont have to know who they a...,
Zephon,
16-Oct-12 12:24 AM, #128
I am not operating under that assumption,
DurNominator,
16-Oct-12 01:31 AM, #130
RE: I am not operating under that assumption,
Akresius,
16-Oct-12 04:50 PM, #132
I'm not concerned.,
trewyn,
14-Oct-12 01:25 PM, #57
Oh...wow...this...is a big one.,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 02:06 PM, #58
What. The. ####?,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 03:06 PM, #64
Poor you!,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 02:57 PM, #61
RE: I'm not concerned.,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 03:26 PM, #68
I did the search but didn't count carefully.,
DurNominator,
14-Oct-12 03:46 PM, #70
Seems about par for everyone,
Splntrd,
14-Oct-12 06:13 PM, #92
Get bent,
jalbrin,
14-Oct-12 12:27 PM, #56
This ^ nt,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 02:06 PM, #59
Perhaps you should read my posts instead of...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 02:58 PM, #62
RE: Get bent,
DurNominator,
14-Oct-12 11:29 PM, #113
RE: Get bent,
colospgsbryan,
15-Oct-12 08:59 PM, #124
RE: Get bent,
Eskelian,
19-Oct-12 04:45 PM, #134
RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be...,
KaguMaru,
14-Oct-12 12:04 PM, #55
Quick thought.,
Lightmage,
13-Oct-12 10:46 PM, #45
As someone who HAS been heavily rewarded, I was...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:54 PM, #46
You are being wildly unreasonable.,
Artificial,
13-Oct-12 09:18 PM, #36
I DIDN'T GET GREATER DEMON SUMMONING :(,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:03 PM, #39
I was also an almost 400 hour cabal leader,
Artificial,
13-Oct-12 11:55 PM, #47
I'm unsure why you think your RP wasn't rewarded?,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 12:08 AM, #48
...what?,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 12:55 AM, #49
Been a long day.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 01:09 AM, #50
I am eternal and unchanging. nt,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 01:10 AM, #51
RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be...,
Daevryn,
13-Oct-12 06:47 PM, #31
Hey awesome. As long it isn't ooc favoritism do it. ,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 07:55 PM, #32
RE: Hey awesome. As long it isn't ooc favoritism do it....,
Daevryn,
13-Oct-12 07:59 PM, #33
I'd disagree.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 08:57 PM, #35
RE: I'd disagree.,
Yargy (Anonymous),
13-Oct-12 09:30 PM, #37
Part of the reason I used you as an example...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:15 PM, #41
RE: Part of the reason I used you as an example...,
Yargy (Anonymous),
13-Oct-12 10:26 PM, #42
Good. One of things I wanted out of this post...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:34 PM, #43
RE: I'd disagree.,
Daevryn,
13-Oct-12 09:56 PM, #38
Oh, I was never saying that.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:42 PM, #44
Don't get me wrong,
TJHuron,
14-Oct-12 10:58 AM, #53
I feel somewhat like you're being evasive...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 08:53 PM, #34
RE: I feel somewhat like you're being evasive...,
Daevryn,
13-Oct-12 10:02 PM, #129
Part of the reason I think they are too much...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:12 PM, #40
RE: I feel somewhat like you're being evasive...,
Iunna,
14-Oct-12 08:53 AM, #52
I agree,
DurNominator,
13-Oct-12 01:02 PM, #9
The problem with this is.,
Tesline,
13-Oct-12 01:26 PM, #11
And that is how they should be.,
DurNominator,
13-Oct-12 02:03 PM, #12
I've always thought it would be neat if,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 03:02 PM, #16
Fireblood has been given as a reward many times.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 03:09 PM, #17
Ok so don't laugh but what's fire blood? Nt,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 03:49 PM, #20
Fireblood, not fire blood.,
DurNominator,
13-Oct-12 03:51 PM, #21
iPhone did it nt,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 04:36 PM, #24
I agree with this. nt,
Marcus_,
14-Oct-12 02:58 PM, #63
I agree with this mostly.,
Zephon,
14-Oct-12 03:50 PM, #71
I've never had much of them but I don't mind rewards be...,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 12:31 PM, #8
As a more casual CFer...,
vargal,
13-Oct-12 11:59 AM, #7
Completely disagree.,
Tesline,
13-Oct-12 11:18 AM, #6
The system is not all that bad.,
lasentia,
13-Oct-12 09:47 AM, #5
I'm kind of wishy washy on this.,
Iunna,
13-Oct-12 07:59 AM, #4
I like your stated policy,
DurNominator,
13-Oct-12 01:20 PM, #10
Some responses (and thank you for your perspective).,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 02:55 PM, #15
Who or what do you think is really THAT far skewed from...,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 06:54 AM, #2
Listen...it's just the culture shift I'm worried about.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 02:51 PM, #14
Out of the people who are actually bitching about rewar...,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 03:18 PM, #18
You hit inadvertantly proved my point...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 03:30 PM, #19
I agree, to a point,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 04:01 PM, #22
I suppose this is where I have a fundemental disconnect...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 05:17 PM, #25
I dont play for the rewards, but like you said, they ar...,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 05:47 PM, #27
I think that's the point though...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 06:31 PM, #29
RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be...,
GoTeamUnderdog,
13-Oct-12 03:32 AM, #1
I actually like them being handed out as they are so fa...,
Batman (Anonymous),
13-Oct-12 07:51 AM, #3
Leaders did used to get cool #### back in the day.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 02:47 PM, #13
I agree with you that role-contest awards are over the ...,
Amberion,
13-Oct-12 04:28 PM, #23
I don't want you to think I'm picking on you dude...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 05:23 PM, #26
Him getting his unholy returned one time was a choice m...,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 05:48 PM, #28
It happened twice ;),
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 06:38 PM, #30
Easy fix: Limit ALL rewards to cosmetic changes and IMM...,
-flso,
14-Oct-12 11:24 AM, #54
Greatly effected?,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 02:13 PM, #60
You're on crack if you don't think....,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 03:09 PM, #65
RE: You're on crack if you don't think....,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 03:25 PM, #67
Wow. Bravo.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 03:41 PM, #69
RE: Wow. Bravo.,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 04:32 PM, #73
First off, I come across horrible in print...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 05:07 PM, #77
About dopple and that tranmuter,
CraftedD (Anonymous),
14-Oct-12 05:39 PM, #86
Some facts.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 05:43 PM, #88
You keep missing the point,
-flso,
14-Oct-12 03:24 PM, #66
I think your missing the point.,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 04:16 PM, #72
RE: Easy fix: Limit ALL rewards to cosmetic changes and...,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 04:31 PM, #74
Such an interesting conversation. To sum it up...,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 04:52 PM, #75
Also, re: Ghrimriddor,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:08 PM, #78
Huh? A little confused.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 05:14 PM, #79
RE: Huh? A little confused.,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:20 PM, #81
I brought it up because of Tavlin.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 05:40 PM, #87
RE: I brought it up because of Tavlin.,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:53 PM, #89
I started this thread because of Narissorin's deletion.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 06:01 PM, #90
RE: I started this thread because of Narissorin's delet...,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 06:29 PM #91
Not asking them to baby-sit at all.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 06:34 PM, #93
That may work... However.,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 06:46 PM, #94
Counters,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 07:02 PM, #96
Good points,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 07:20 PM, #98
Bleh. Damn you for having a good argument!,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 07:59 PM, #103
The high avg drowning weapon isn't from the religion so...,
Iklahn (Anonymous),
14-Oct-12 08:30 PM, #105
RE: Not asking them to baby-sit at all.,
DurNominator,
15-Oct-12 08:51 AM, #119
Rewards that affect gameplay should be handed down in a...,
-flso,
14-Oct-12 05:10 PM, #76
Everyone is able to compete for them fairly and transpa...,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:17 PM, #80
Missed the point, do you ppl even read what you respond...,
-flso,
14-Oct-12 05:23 PM, #82
The single biggest reason to why I play CF is: ANYTHING...,
Amberion,
14-Oct-12 05:31 PM, #83
RE: Missed the point, do you ppl even read what you res...,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:32 PM, #84
Your the only one agruing a point that doesn't make muc...,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 05:37 PM, #85
RE: Rewards that affect gameplay should be handed down ...,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 07:56 PM, #101
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