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TMNSSat 13-Oct-12 10:03 PM
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#47416, "I DIDN'T GET GREATER DEMON SUMMONING :("


          

See, I can totally ignore the salient points and just focus on something I want to.

Seeing as how I've played a total of 30 hrs on CF since June, I don't really see how you can say I have "sour grapes". I just know I've had MULTIPLE people talk to me about how they are concerned that there are characters that are over-rewarded.

Again, I love how people are arguing against my point by claiming "I want to have a reward if I write a good role and play it for 400 hrs" which PROVES my point. Playing your role and playing it well SHOULD BE IT'S OWN REWARD. I can't stress that enough.

I have no idea where you got the gnome hand spec part of your post from. I never wanted that. Let me elaborate on my "Abs and other imbalanced things" comment, point by point.

ABS) I really don't like the fact that you can be totally two different characters depending on where your sleeks pop. Have an easy set? You're instantly competitive at all times. Have a really difficult set? You better know some unique wands and be able to tailor your fight style to deal with the fact you aren't decked to ####. I've often said my solution would be something that would be a bitch to implement but would fix this problem entirely (hence, why I've never been mad at the IMMs for not implementing it). If you want me to rehash it I can, let me know.

Role Contests) As someone who has won 4 (repeat, 4) of them, I think the rewards given for a victory are much too powerful, especially because none of my winners had more than 100 hrs at the time of the win. I really don't find it fair/balanced that I get a very powerful boost on my character just because I can write a good story. I've had over 20 people ask me to write roles for them because, and I quote, "I want to win a role contest and get something cool".

Imbalanced things) There are several things in the game that are imbalanced right now, mainly because the things that used to check against that imbalance either aren't feasible anymore (giant gangs) or logistics keep it from happening (you no longer have 20 people in your range at all times...so ranking is absurdly easy...hence, high XP penalty characters are no longer at such a disadvantage). I've outlined several times how I would fix this and no one but the players have ever commented on it. Despoil is a perfect example. Despoil is OP but only when there are a ton of competant SCIONs on. Normally, that's not a problem, but now we have a lich, two quest form shifters, at least one other character that has a beefy reward, etc. Not only that, you have Krunk slaughtering villagers left and right, and a strong village is one of the things that keeps SCIONs in check.

I get the feeling that now that you've used your AIM list and Hell trips to get you at a competitive point with the best players in CF, you could give two ####s about helping anyone else at this game, and that's sad.

  

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HOT TopicAnyone else concerned about the arms race CF has become... [View all] , TMNS, Tue 16-Oct-12 01:10 AM
Reply RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be..., SideStrider, 26-Oct-12 06:02 PM, #137
Reply Roles aren't about story quality., Tesline, 26-Oct-12 06:32 PM, #138
Reply Role XP Note, Reksah, 30-Oct-12 03:08 PM, #146
Reply Ummmmmmmmmm...., Stunna, 16-Oct-12 12:38 PM, #131
Reply "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal..., Quixotic, 14-Oct-12 11:39 PM, #114
Reply Shockingly enough this threat made things a lot more cl..., Tesline, 14-Oct-12 11:56 PM, #117
Reply My take., Graatch, 14-Oct-12 09:24 PM, #108
Reply I can support this. nt, Artificial, 14-Oct-12 09:25 PM, #109
Reply What my boy Graatch said. nt, Dallevian, 14-Oct-12 09:26 PM, #110
Reply I support this fully., Zephon, 14-Oct-12 09:33 PM, #111
Reply I agree too. nt, Tesline, 14-Oct-12 11:28 PM, #112
Reply Agreed (n/t), orangepowered, 15-Oct-12 09:18 AM, #120
Reply RE: My take., Daevryn, 15-Oct-12 06:05 PM, #121
Reply God I just want to punch you in the face sometimes., TMNS, 15-Oct-12 06:22 PM, #122
Reply RE: God I just want to punch you in the face sometimes., Daevryn, 19-Oct-12 04:25 PM, #133
     Reply Are you some kind of robotman? =P NT, vargal, 19-Oct-12 05:16 PM, #135
     Reply Not necessarily knee-capping..., TMNS, 19-Oct-12 08:06 PM, #136
     Reply Just saw a log and nearly pooped myself. Really?, TMNS, 29-Oct-12 04:55 PM, #139
          Reply RE: Just saw a log and nearly pooped myself. Really?, Daevryn, 29-Oct-12 05:21 PM, #140
               Reply I really want to punch you in the face., TMNS, 29-Oct-12 05:34 PM, #141
                    Reply RE: I really want to punch you in the face., Daevryn, 29-Oct-12 06:40 PM, #142
                         Reply I've got logs to post later (n/t), Zulghinlour, 29-Oct-12 07:13 PM, #143
                              Reply naked logs? nt, Dallevian, 29-Oct-12 08:04 PM, #144
                                   Reply Organic logs? nt, Tsunami, 29-Oct-12 08:29 PM, #145
Reply Gotta say, this sounds cool., Zephon, 16-Oct-12 12:17 AM, #127
Reply This. nt, colospgsbryan, 15-Oct-12 09:46 PM, #125
Reply Also, FWIW (to the "He has sour grapes" crew) I donated..., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 08:32 PM, #106
Reply I am also unconcerned., Akresius, 14-Oct-12 07:01 PM, #95
Reply Feh. Said that other post would be my last..., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 07:16 PM, #97
Reply Clearly you need some things outlined for you., Artificial, 14-Oct-12 07:29 PM, #99
Reply Because you completely missed the point..., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 07:48 PM, #100
     Reply RE: Because you completely missed the point..., Artificial, 14-Oct-12 08:42 PM, #107
Reply RE: Feh. Said that other post would be my last..., Akresius, 14-Oct-12 07:58 PM, #102
     Reply Just some points on your post., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 08:13 PM, #104
          Reply How do you automate judging what is good RP?, DurNominator, 14-Oct-12 11:42 PM, #115
               Reply This system I propose would only automate the rewards g..., TMNS, 15-Oct-12 11:09 PM, #126
Reply RE: I am also unconcerned., DurNominator, 14-Oct-12 11:54 PM, #116
     Reply If I may..., Bajula, 15-Oct-12 02:34 AM, #118
     Reply False assumption, Akresius, 15-Oct-12 07:36 PM, #123
          Reply Acutally, he is saying you dont have to know who they a..., Zephon, 16-Oct-12 12:24 AM, #128
          Reply I am not operating under that assumption, DurNominator, 16-Oct-12 01:31 AM, #130
               Reply RE: I am not operating under that assumption, Akresius, 16-Oct-12 04:50 PM, #132
Reply I'm not concerned., trewyn, 14-Oct-12 01:25 PM, #57
Reply Oh...wow...this...is a big one., Tesline, 14-Oct-12 02:06 PM, #58
Reply What. The. ####?, TMNS, 14-Oct-12 03:06 PM, #64
Reply Poor you!, Artificial, 14-Oct-12 02:57 PM, #61
Reply RE: I'm not concerned., Daevryn, 14-Oct-12 03:26 PM, #68
     Reply I did the search but didn't count carefully., DurNominator, 14-Oct-12 03:46 PM, #70
          Reply Seems about par for everyone, Splntrd, 14-Oct-12 06:13 PM, #92
Reply Get bent, jalbrin, 14-Oct-12 12:27 PM, #56
Reply This ^ nt, Tesline, 14-Oct-12 02:06 PM, #59
Reply Perhaps you should read my posts instead of..., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 02:58 PM, #62
Reply RE: Get bent, DurNominator, 14-Oct-12 11:29 PM, #113
Reply RE: Get bent, colospgsbryan, 15-Oct-12 08:59 PM, #124
Reply RE: Get bent, Eskelian, 19-Oct-12 04:45 PM, #134
Reply RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be..., KaguMaru, 14-Oct-12 12:04 PM, #55
Reply Quick thought., Lightmage, 13-Oct-12 10:46 PM, #45
Reply As someone who HAS been heavily rewarded, I was..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 10:54 PM, #46
Reply You are being wildly unreasonable., Artificial, 13-Oct-12 09:18 PM, #36
Reply I DIDN'T GET GREATER DEMON SUMMONING :(, TMNS, 13-Oct-12 10:03 PM #39
     Reply I was also an almost 400 hour cabal leader, Artificial, 13-Oct-12 11:55 PM, #47
          Reply I'm unsure why you think your RP wasn't rewarded?, TMNS, 14-Oct-12 12:08 AM, #48
               Reply ...what?, Artificial, 14-Oct-12 12:55 AM, #49
                    Reply Been a long day., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 01:09 AM, #50
                         Reply I am eternal and unchanging. nt, Artificial, 14-Oct-12 01:10 AM, #51
Reply RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be..., Daevryn, 13-Oct-12 06:47 PM, #31
Reply Hey awesome. As long it isn't ooc favoritism do it. , TJHuron, 13-Oct-12 07:55 PM, #32
Reply RE: Hey awesome. As long it isn't ooc favoritism do it...., Daevryn, 13-Oct-12 07:59 PM, #33
     Reply I'd disagree., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 08:57 PM, #35
     Reply RE: I'd disagree., Yargy (Anonymous), 13-Oct-12 09:30 PM, #37
     Reply Part of the reason I used you as an example..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 10:15 PM, #41
          Reply RE: Part of the reason I used you as an example..., Yargy (Anonymous), 13-Oct-12 10:26 PM, #42
               Reply Good. One of things I wanted out of this post..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 10:34 PM, #43
     Reply RE: I'd disagree., Daevryn, 13-Oct-12 09:56 PM, #38
          Reply Oh, I was never saying that., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 10:42 PM, #44
     Reply Don't get me wrong, TJHuron, 14-Oct-12 10:58 AM, #53
Reply I feel somewhat like you're being evasive..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 08:53 PM, #34
     Reply RE: I feel somewhat like you're being evasive..., Daevryn, 13-Oct-12 10:02 PM, #129
          Reply Part of the reason I think they are too much..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 10:12 PM, #40
          Reply RE: I feel somewhat like you're being evasive..., Iunna, 14-Oct-12 08:53 AM, #52
Reply I agree, DurNominator, 13-Oct-12 01:02 PM, #9
Reply The problem with this is., Tesline, 13-Oct-12 01:26 PM, #11
Reply And that is how they should be., DurNominator, 13-Oct-12 02:03 PM, #12
Reply I've always thought it would be neat if, TJHuron, 13-Oct-12 03:02 PM, #16
Reply Fireblood has been given as a reward many times., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 03:09 PM, #17
     Reply Ok so don't laugh but what's fire blood? Nt, TJHuron, 13-Oct-12 03:49 PM, #20
          Reply Fireblood, not fire blood., DurNominator, 13-Oct-12 03:51 PM, #21
               Reply iPhone did it nt, TJHuron, 13-Oct-12 04:36 PM, #24
Reply I agree with this. nt, Marcus_, 14-Oct-12 02:58 PM, #63
Reply I agree with this mostly., Zephon, 14-Oct-12 03:50 PM, #71
Reply I've never had much of them but I don't mind rewards be..., TJHuron, 13-Oct-12 12:31 PM, #8
Reply As a more casual CFer..., vargal, 13-Oct-12 11:59 AM, #7
Reply Completely disagree., Tesline, 13-Oct-12 11:18 AM, #6
Reply The system is not all that bad., lasentia, 13-Oct-12 09:47 AM, #5
Reply I'm kind of wishy washy on this., Iunna, 13-Oct-12 07:59 AM, #4
Reply I like your stated policy, DurNominator, 13-Oct-12 01:20 PM, #10
Reply Some responses (and thank you for your perspective)., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 02:55 PM, #15
Reply Who or what do you think is really THAT far skewed from..., Puhguly, 13-Oct-12 06:54 AM, #2
Reply Listen...it's just the culture shift I'm worried about., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 02:51 PM, #14
     Reply Out of the people who are actually bitching about rewar..., Puhguly, 13-Oct-12 03:18 PM, #18
          Reply You hit inadvertantly proved my point..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 03:30 PM, #19
               Reply I agree, to a point, Puhguly, 13-Oct-12 04:01 PM, #22
                    Reply I suppose this is where I have a fundemental disconnect..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 05:17 PM, #25
                         Reply I dont play for the rewards, but like you said, they ar..., Puhguly, 13-Oct-12 05:47 PM, #27
                              Reply I think that's the point though..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 06:31 PM, #29
Reply RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be..., GoTeamUnderdog, 13-Oct-12 03:32 AM, #1
     Reply I actually like them being handed out as they are so fa..., Batman (Anonymous), 13-Oct-12 07:51 AM, #3
          Reply Leaders did used to get cool #### back in the day., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 02:47 PM, #13
               Reply I agree with you that role-contest awards are over the ..., Amberion, 13-Oct-12 04:28 PM, #23
                    Reply I don't want you to think I'm picking on you dude..., TMNS, 13-Oct-12 05:23 PM, #26
                         Reply Him getting his unholy returned one time was a choice m..., Puhguly, 13-Oct-12 05:48 PM, #28
                              Reply It happened twice ;), TMNS, 13-Oct-12 06:38 PM, #30
                                   Reply Easy fix: Limit ALL rewards to cosmetic changes and IMM..., -flso, 14-Oct-12 11:24 AM, #54
                                        Reply Greatly effected?, Tesline, 14-Oct-12 02:13 PM, #60
                                        Reply You're on crack if you don't think...., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 03:09 PM, #65
                                        Reply RE: You're on crack if you don't think...., Daevryn, 14-Oct-12 03:25 PM, #67
                                             Reply Wow. Bravo., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 03:41 PM, #69
                                                  Reply RE: Wow. Bravo., Daevryn, 14-Oct-12 04:32 PM, #73
                                                       Reply First off, I come across horrible in print..., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 05:07 PM, #77
                                                            Reply About dopple and that tranmuter, CraftedD (Anonymous), 14-Oct-12 05:39 PM, #86
                                                                 Reply Some facts., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 05:43 PM, #88
                                        Reply You keep missing the point, -flso, 14-Oct-12 03:24 PM, #66
                                             Reply I think your missing the point., Tesline, 14-Oct-12 04:16 PM, #72
                                        Reply RE: Easy fix: Limit ALL rewards to cosmetic changes and..., Daevryn, 14-Oct-12 04:31 PM, #74
                                             Reply Such an interesting conversation. To sum it up..., Knac, 14-Oct-12 04:52 PM, #75
                                             Reply Also, re: Ghrimriddor, Knac, 14-Oct-12 05:08 PM, #78
                                                  Reply Huh? A little confused., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 05:14 PM, #79
                                                       Reply RE: Huh? A little confused., Knac, 14-Oct-12 05:20 PM, #81
                                                            Reply I brought it up because of Tavlin., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 05:40 PM, #87
                                                                 Reply RE: I brought it up because of Tavlin., Knac, 14-Oct-12 05:53 PM, #89
                                                                      Reply I started this thread because of Narissorin's deletion., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 06:01 PM, #90
                                                                           Reply RE: I started this thread because of Narissorin's delet..., Knac, 14-Oct-12 06:29 PM, #91
                                                                                Reply Not asking them to baby-sit at all., TMNS, 14-Oct-12 06:34 PM, #93
                                                                                     Reply That may work... However., Knac, 14-Oct-12 06:46 PM, #94
                                                                                     Reply Counters, TMNS, 14-Oct-12 07:02 PM, #96
                                                                                     Reply Good points, Knac, 14-Oct-12 07:20 PM, #98
                                                                                     Reply Bleh. Damn you for having a good argument!, TMNS, 14-Oct-12 07:59 PM, #103
                                                                                     Reply The high avg drowning weapon isn't from the religion so..., Iklahn (Anonymous), 14-Oct-12 08:30 PM, #105
                                                                                     Reply RE: Not asking them to baby-sit at all., DurNominator, 15-Oct-12 08:51 AM, #119
                                             Reply Rewards that affect gameplay should be handed down in a..., -flso, 14-Oct-12 05:10 PM, #76
                                                  Reply Everyone is able to compete for them fairly and transpa..., Knac, 14-Oct-12 05:17 PM, #80
                                                  Reply Missed the point, do you ppl even read what you respond..., -flso, 14-Oct-12 05:23 PM, #82
                                                       Reply The single biggest reason to why I play CF is: ANYTHING..., Amberion, 14-Oct-12 05:31 PM, #83
                                                       Reply RE: Missed the point, do you ppl even read what you res..., Knac, 14-Oct-12 05:32 PM, #84
                                                       Reply Your the only one agruing a point that doesn't make muc..., Tesline, 14-Oct-12 05:37 PM, #85
                                                  Reply RE: Rewards that affect gameplay should be handed down ..., Daevryn, 14-Oct-12 07:56 PM, #101
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