Knac | Sun 14-Oct-12 05:32 PM |
Member since 07th May 2010
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#47462, "RE: Missed the point, do you ppl even read what you respond to?"
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I don't have an issue with rewards, as long as they don't affect gameplay. For the ones that do, it should be possible for *everyone* to compete for them fairly and transparently.
***Read what you typed. For the one's that do, it should be possible for *everyone* to compete for them fairly and transparently. Once again, to rehash my point, everyone can compete for them fairly and transparently by playing better/putting in more effort, instead of asking TMNS to write roles for them.
IMM xp as a reward is perfectly fine, the player decides what to spend them on and there are alternative ways to get them. Quest forms, legacies, spells/skills/adaptations are not as they're chosen arbitrarily behind the scenes by immortals based on standards that from the player's POV are not well-defined and ever-shifting. What is so hard to grasp about this?
***So you're saying that quest forms/legacies/spells, etc. are not fine here, which is directly contradictory to your point of "it should be possible for everyone to compete for ". What's your stance? That they're not fine? Or that they're fine? If your stance is that they're not fine, you're saying that such rewards should be toned or given on a more objective standard. Objective from the player's point of view of the immortals point of view? Would you say that people who make the game more fun for the imms and the players should not get such "game changing" rewards? By definition, objective from a point of view can't be had, since everyone is subjective, unless there's a rule or guidelines on what can or what cannot be given re: "gamechanging" rewards. If the imms have that (which they might, who knows), then the players would still bitch because a) they don't have privy to the informatino, thus, don't know how to reach that goal or b) they do have privy to the information, and would strive for those standards only, instead of standards that they set for themselves to enjoy the game.
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Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has become...
[View all] , TMNS, Tue 16-Oct-12 01:10 AM
RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be...,
SideStrider,
26-Oct-12 06:02 PM, #137
Roles aren't about story quality.,
Tesline,
26-Oct-12 06:32 PM, #138
Role XP Note,
Reksah,
30-Oct-12 03:08 PM, #146
Ummmmmmmmmm....,
Stunna,
16-Oct-12 12:38 PM, #131
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal...,
Quixotic,
14-Oct-12 11:39 PM, #114
Shockingly enough this threat made things a lot more cl...,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 11:56 PM, #117
My take.,
Graatch,
14-Oct-12 09:24 PM, #108
I can support this. nt,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 09:25 PM, #109
What my boy Graatch said. nt,
Dallevian,
14-Oct-12 09:26 PM, #110
I support this fully.,
Zephon,
14-Oct-12 09:33 PM, #111
I agree too. nt,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 11:28 PM, #112
Agreed (n/t),
orangepowered,
15-Oct-12 09:18 AM, #120
RE: My take.,
Daevryn,
15-Oct-12 06:05 PM, #121
God I just want to punch you in the face sometimes.,
TMNS,
15-Oct-12 06:22 PM, #122
RE: God I just want to punch you in the face sometimes.,
Daevryn,
19-Oct-12 04:25 PM, #133
Are you some kind of robotman? =P NT,
vargal,
19-Oct-12 05:16 PM, #135
Not necessarily knee-capping...,
TMNS,
19-Oct-12 08:06 PM, #136
Just saw a log and nearly pooped myself. Really?,
TMNS,
29-Oct-12 04:55 PM, #139
RE: Just saw a log and nearly pooped myself. Really?,
Daevryn,
29-Oct-12 05:21 PM, #140
I really want to punch you in the face.,
TMNS,
29-Oct-12 05:34 PM, #141
RE: I really want to punch you in the face.,
Daevryn,
29-Oct-12 06:40 PM, #142
I've got logs to post later (n/t),
Zulghinlour,
29-Oct-12 07:13 PM, #143
naked logs? nt,
Dallevian,
29-Oct-12 08:04 PM, #144
Organic logs? nt,
Tsunami,
29-Oct-12 08:29 PM, #145
Gotta say, this sounds cool.,
Zephon,
16-Oct-12 12:17 AM, #127
This. nt,
colospgsbryan,
15-Oct-12 09:46 PM, #125
Also, FWIW (to the "He has sour grapes" crew) I donated...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 08:32 PM, #106
I am also unconcerned.,
Akresius,
14-Oct-12 07:01 PM, #95
Feh. Said that other post would be my last...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 07:16 PM, #97
Clearly you need some things outlined for you.,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 07:29 PM, #99
Because you completely missed the point...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 07:48 PM, #100
RE: Because you completely missed the point...,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 08:42 PM, #107
RE: Feh. Said that other post would be my last...,
Akresius,
14-Oct-12 07:58 PM, #102
Just some points on your post.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 08:13 PM, #104
How do you automate judging what is good RP?,
DurNominator,
14-Oct-12 11:42 PM, #115
This system I propose would only automate the rewards g...,
TMNS,
15-Oct-12 11:09 PM, #126
RE: I am also unconcerned.,
DurNominator,
14-Oct-12 11:54 PM, #116
If I may...,
Bajula,
15-Oct-12 02:34 AM, #118
False assumption,
Akresius,
15-Oct-12 07:36 PM, #123
Acutally, he is saying you dont have to know who they a...,
Zephon,
16-Oct-12 12:24 AM, #128
I am not operating under that assumption,
DurNominator,
16-Oct-12 01:31 AM, #130
RE: I am not operating under that assumption,
Akresius,
16-Oct-12 04:50 PM, #132
I'm not concerned.,
trewyn,
14-Oct-12 01:25 PM, #57
Oh...wow...this...is a big one.,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 02:06 PM, #58
What. The. ####?,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 03:06 PM, #64
Poor you!,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 02:57 PM, #61
RE: I'm not concerned.,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 03:26 PM, #68
I did the search but didn't count carefully.,
DurNominator,
14-Oct-12 03:46 PM, #70
Seems about par for everyone,
Splntrd,
14-Oct-12 06:13 PM, #92
Get bent,
jalbrin,
14-Oct-12 12:27 PM, #56
This ^ nt,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 02:06 PM, #59
Perhaps you should read my posts instead of...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 02:58 PM, #62
RE: Get bent,
DurNominator,
14-Oct-12 11:29 PM, #113
RE: Get bent,
colospgsbryan,
15-Oct-12 08:59 PM, #124
RE: Get bent,
Eskelian,
19-Oct-12 04:45 PM, #134
RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be...,
KaguMaru,
14-Oct-12 12:04 PM, #55
Quick thought.,
Lightmage,
13-Oct-12 10:46 PM, #45
As someone who HAS been heavily rewarded, I was...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:54 PM, #46
You are being wildly unreasonable.,
Artificial,
13-Oct-12 09:18 PM, #36
I DIDN'T GET GREATER DEMON SUMMONING :(,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:03 PM, #39
I was also an almost 400 hour cabal leader,
Artificial,
13-Oct-12 11:55 PM, #47
I'm unsure why you think your RP wasn't rewarded?,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 12:08 AM, #48
...what?,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 12:55 AM, #49
Been a long day.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 01:09 AM, #50
I am eternal and unchanging. nt,
Artificial,
14-Oct-12 01:10 AM, #51
RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be...,
Daevryn,
13-Oct-12 06:47 PM, #31
Hey awesome. As long it isn't ooc favoritism do it. ,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 07:55 PM, #32
RE: Hey awesome. As long it isn't ooc favoritism do it....,
Daevryn,
13-Oct-12 07:59 PM, #33
I'd disagree.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 08:57 PM, #35
RE: I'd disagree.,
Yargy (Anonymous),
13-Oct-12 09:30 PM, #37
Part of the reason I used you as an example...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:15 PM, #41
RE: Part of the reason I used you as an example...,
Yargy (Anonymous),
13-Oct-12 10:26 PM, #42
Good. One of things I wanted out of this post...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:34 PM, #43
RE: I'd disagree.,
Daevryn,
13-Oct-12 09:56 PM, #38
Oh, I was never saying that.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:42 PM, #44
Don't get me wrong,
TJHuron,
14-Oct-12 10:58 AM, #53
I feel somewhat like you're being evasive...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 08:53 PM, #34
RE: I feel somewhat like you're being evasive...,
Daevryn,
13-Oct-12 10:02 PM, #129
Part of the reason I think they are too much...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 10:12 PM, #40
RE: I feel somewhat like you're being evasive...,
Iunna,
14-Oct-12 08:53 AM, #52
I agree,
DurNominator,
13-Oct-12 01:02 PM, #9
The problem with this is.,
Tesline,
13-Oct-12 01:26 PM, #11
And that is how they should be.,
DurNominator,
13-Oct-12 02:03 PM, #12
I've always thought it would be neat if,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 03:02 PM, #16
Fireblood has been given as a reward many times.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 03:09 PM, #17
Ok so don't laugh but what's fire blood? Nt,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 03:49 PM, #20
Fireblood, not fire blood.,
DurNominator,
13-Oct-12 03:51 PM, #21
iPhone did it nt,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 04:36 PM, #24
I agree with this. nt,
Marcus_,
14-Oct-12 02:58 PM, #63
I agree with this mostly.,
Zephon,
14-Oct-12 03:50 PM, #71
I've never had much of them but I don't mind rewards be...,
TJHuron,
13-Oct-12 12:31 PM, #8
As a more casual CFer...,
vargal,
13-Oct-12 11:59 AM, #7
Completely disagree.,
Tesline,
13-Oct-12 11:18 AM, #6
The system is not all that bad.,
lasentia,
13-Oct-12 09:47 AM, #5
I'm kind of wishy washy on this.,
Iunna,
13-Oct-12 07:59 AM, #4
I like your stated policy,
DurNominator,
13-Oct-12 01:20 PM, #10
Some responses (and thank you for your perspective).,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 02:55 PM, #15
Who or what do you think is really THAT far skewed from...,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 06:54 AM, #2
Listen...it's just the culture shift I'm worried about.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 02:51 PM, #14
Out of the people who are actually bitching about rewar...,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 03:18 PM, #18
You hit inadvertantly proved my point...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 03:30 PM, #19
I agree, to a point,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 04:01 PM, #22
I suppose this is where I have a fundemental disconnect...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 05:17 PM, #25
I dont play for the rewards, but like you said, they ar...,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 05:47 PM, #27
I think that's the point though...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 06:31 PM, #29
RE: Anyone else concerned about the arms race CF has be...,
GoTeamUnderdog,
13-Oct-12 03:32 AM, #1
I actually like them being handed out as they are so fa...,
Batman (Anonymous),
13-Oct-12 07:51 AM, #3
Leaders did used to get cool #### back in the day.,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 02:47 PM, #13
I agree with you that role-contest awards are over the ...,
Amberion,
13-Oct-12 04:28 PM, #23
I don't want you to think I'm picking on you dude...,
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 05:23 PM, #26
Him getting his unholy returned one time was a choice m...,
Puhguly,
13-Oct-12 05:48 PM, #28
It happened twice ;),
TMNS,
13-Oct-12 06:38 PM, #30
Easy fix: Limit ALL rewards to cosmetic changes and IMM...,
-flso,
14-Oct-12 11:24 AM, #54
Greatly effected?,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 02:13 PM, #60
You're on crack if you don't think....,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 03:09 PM, #65
RE: You're on crack if you don't think....,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 03:25 PM, #67
Wow. Bravo.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 03:41 PM, #69
RE: Wow. Bravo.,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 04:32 PM, #73
First off, I come across horrible in print...,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 05:07 PM, #77
About dopple and that tranmuter,
CraftedD (Anonymous),
14-Oct-12 05:39 PM, #86
Some facts.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 05:43 PM, #88
You keep missing the point,
-flso,
14-Oct-12 03:24 PM, #66
I think your missing the point.,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 04:16 PM, #72
RE: Easy fix: Limit ALL rewards to cosmetic changes and...,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 04:31 PM, #74
Such an interesting conversation. To sum it up...,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 04:52 PM, #75
Also, re: Ghrimriddor,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:08 PM, #78
Huh? A little confused.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 05:14 PM, #79
RE: Huh? A little confused.,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:20 PM, #81
I brought it up because of Tavlin.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 05:40 PM, #87
RE: I brought it up because of Tavlin.,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:53 PM, #89
I started this thread because of Narissorin's deletion.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 06:01 PM, #90
RE: I started this thread because of Narissorin's delet...,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 06:29 PM, #91
Not asking them to baby-sit at all.,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 06:34 PM, #93
That may work... However.,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 06:46 PM, #94
Counters,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 07:02 PM, #96
Good points,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 07:20 PM, #98
Bleh. Damn you for having a good argument!,
TMNS,
14-Oct-12 07:59 PM, #103
The high avg drowning weapon isn't from the religion so...,
Iklahn (Anonymous),
14-Oct-12 08:30 PM, #105
RE: Not asking them to baby-sit at all.,
DurNominator,
15-Oct-12 08:51 AM, #119
Rewards that affect gameplay should be handed down in a...,
-flso,
14-Oct-12 05:10 PM, #76
Everyone is able to compete for them fairly and transpa...,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:17 PM, #80
Missed the point, do you ppl even read what you respond...,
-flso,
14-Oct-12 05:23 PM, #82
The single biggest reason to why I play CF is: ANYTHING...,
Amberion,
14-Oct-12 05:31 PM, #83
RE: Missed the point, do you ppl even read what you res...,
Knac,
14-Oct-12 05:32 PM #84
Your the only one agruing a point that doesn't make muc...,
Tesline,
14-Oct-12 05:37 PM, #85
RE: Rewards that affect gameplay should be handed down ...,
Daevryn,
14-Oct-12 07:56 PM, #101
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