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incognitoWed 14-Nov-07 02:19 PM
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#58, "RE: Get off my chest, CF!"


          

Personally, I don't really have an opinion as to whether you take on some cf marketing or not. What you could do, if you wished to conduct a marketing campaign, is set out what you would propose to do and how much budget you would need to do it, then detail the expected benefits and how you came to this conclusion. Having done that, the imms could essentially decide whether or not to contract you for this work.

That said, your post seems to overlook some really fundamental points, and left me with the general impression that whilst your management technique and experience might be valuable in the businesses you conduct in real life, they would be less so in the cf context.

For example, your pool of potential employees (whilst restricted to amateurs who know the game of cf), is not really an ideal match to the roles required by the immortal team. In real business, you have hiring and firing to help deal with this, and in most cases you have a significant enough volume of business that you don't have to worry about the applicant and customer being the same person. In cf, you do, because when you reject an applicant you risk losing the customer (i.e. player). Therefore there is an additional pressure to accept applicants, and you need some sort of process to further test the people that you take on.

I would also add that the arguments you put need to be able to stand on their own merits. I'm not sure that it is helpful to list your successes in real life to bolster your case. Personally, I could come up with a similar list, but I believe that the cf market/business model is completely different from almost any other that you find in real life, with the possible exception of a mutual or co-operative. Even they aren't expected to recruit exclusively from their customer base without paying anyone.

  

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HOT TopicGet off my chest, CF! [View all] , Stunna, Wed 14-Nov-07 12:15 PM
Reply Got a good email from Daevryn, for those interested., Stunna, 15-Nov-07 01:14 PM, #74
Reply I am VERY glad to hear that!, Amberion, 15-Nov-07 04:52 PM, #78
Reply Feel free:, Daevryn, 15-Nov-07 05:27 PM, #79
     Reply Re: donations, TheDude, 15-Nov-07 10:40 PM, #80
          Reply Hmm., DrumArtist, 16-Nov-07 07:39 AM, #81
Reply Two points (I want to help, I promise), Treebeard, 14-Nov-07 06:39 PM, #59
Reply Yea, we'll see what comes of this..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 06:56 PM, #60
Reply Here's an idea for you and the staff who are interested, Mekantos, 14-Nov-07 04:42 PM, #51
Reply I figured chat room was less threatening, but I'm down ..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:52 PM, #54
     Reply About that..., Mekantos, 14-Nov-07 04:58 PM, #55
Reply Email sent to Daevryn as requested. n/t, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:04 PM, #47
Reply People are missing the point of this post, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-07 03:30 PM, #37
Reply RE: People are missing the point of this post, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 03:37 PM, #39
Reply RE: People are missing the point of this post, SirGankAlot, 14-Nov-07 03:40 PM, #42
Reply At last we agree!, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:01 PM, #45
Reply Too funny. You got me man. nt, Dallevian, 14-Nov-07 03:39 PM, #41
Reply RE: People are missing the point of this post, Linolaques, 14-Nov-07 04:30 PM, #49
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, incognito, 14-Nov-07 02:19 PM #15
Reply Nitpicking., Dallevian, 14-Nov-07 01:57 PM, #13
Reply Why do you need to be an imm to do this?, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 01:59 PM, #12
Reply Again my 2 cents, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 02:27 PM, #20
Reply RE: Again my 2 cents, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:31 PM, #25
Reply Several reasons, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 02:49 PM, #32
     Reply Here's the problem with that., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 03:08 PM, #36
          Reply God damn, colospgsbryan, 15-Nov-07 01:28 AM, #65
               Reply RE: God damn, Lyristeon, 15-Nov-07 09:35 AM, #66
                    Reply You're WAY WAY off base, chief., Stunna, 15-Nov-07 11:13 AM, #67
                    Reply RE: You're WAY WAY off base, chief., Adhelard, 15-Nov-07 12:09 PM, #72
                         Reply It would help keep things on track, Mekantos, 15-Nov-07 12:43 PM, #73
                         Reply Exactly. nt, Lyristeon, 15-Nov-07 01:19 PM, #75
                    Reply This is ridiculous, WildGirl, 15-Nov-07 11:30 AM, #71
Reply 100% agree with this. n/t, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:33 PM, #27
Reply I dont see him asking to be an imm..., colospgsbryan, 15-Nov-07 12:49 AM, #64
     Reply Exactly, Thank You! n/t, Stunna, 15-Nov-07 11:18 AM, #68
     Reply Devil's Advocate..., Zulghinlour, 15-Nov-07 11:22 AM, #69
          Reply RE: Devil's Advocate..., Stunna, 15-Nov-07 11:30 AM, #70
               Reply Take a deep breath..., Zulghinlour, 15-Nov-07 01:58 PM, #76
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 01:31 PM, #7
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 01:48 PM, #10
     Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:28 PM, #21
          Reply Being staff vs. chipping in as a player, elmeri_, 14-Nov-07 06:38 PM, #58
               Reply Yup. n/t, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 08:18 PM, #61
               Reply RE: Being staff vs. chipping in as a player, Adhelard, 14-Nov-07 08:30 PM, #62
                    Reply RE: Being staff vs. chipping in as a player, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 10:13 PM, #63
                         Reply That's more or less exactly my thought., elmeri_, 15-Nov-07 04:32 PM, #77
Reply I think the Imm response is clear., Adhelard, 14-Nov-07 01:11 PM, #4
Reply *ding* thanks for the bulb, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 01:25 PM, #6
     Reply Well, I get paid to listen., Adhelard, 14-Nov-07 01:45 PM, #9
          Reply Valg, Daevryn, and whoever else: you mind sitting in a ..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 01:51 PM, #11
          Reply Outline., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:13 PM, #14
               Reply Hah., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:22 PM, #17
               Reply Quite simply actually., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:28 PM, #22
               Reply I also have 20+ years of experience eating McDonalds..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:31 PM, #26
                    Reply I will help you then., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:33 PM, #28
                         Reply RE: I will help you then., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:40 PM, #29
                         Reply You missed the point., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:50 PM, #33
                              Reply RE: You missed the point., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 03:37 PM, #38
                                   Reply RE: You missed the point., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 03:46 PM, #44
                                        Reply RE: You missed the point., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:02 PM, #46
                                             Reply Oh and..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:05 PM, #48
                                             Reply RE: Oh and..., Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 04:32 PM, #50
                                             Reply RE: You missed the point., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 04:42 PM, #52
                                                  Reply To be fair there..., Mekantos, 14-Nov-07 04:49 PM, #53
                         Reply Let me try..., Dervish, 14-Nov-07 02:58 PM, #35
                              Reply What Lyr is missing., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 03:39 PM, #40
                                   Reply RE: What Lyr is missing., Cerunnir, 14-Nov-07 03:46 PM, #43
               Reply RE: Hah., Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:30 PM, #23
               Reply There are ways..., Dallevian, 14-Nov-07 02:27 PM, #19
                    Reply Thank You. n/t, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:41 PM, #31
          Reply Agree with this 100%, Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:22 PM, #16
               Reply Good cop strikes again., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:23 PM, #18
                    Reply Yup. (n/t), Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:30 PM, #24
                    Reply RE: Good cop strikes again., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:41 PM, #30
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, SirGankAlot, 14-Nov-07 12:38 PM, #2
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 12:49 PM, #3
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:50 PM, #34
     Reply Yup., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 06:12 PM, #57
Reply 3/20, elmeri_, 14-Nov-07 05:14 PM, #56
Reply Very Nice Post. My Thoughts., WildGirl, 14-Nov-07 12:31 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Very Nice Post. My Thoughts., Baerinika, 14-Nov-07 01:20 PM, #5
     Reply RE: Very Nice Post. My Thoughts., Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 01:36 PM, #8
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