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SirGankAlotWed 14-Nov-07 12:38 PM
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#5, "RE: Get off my chest, CF!"


          

"Something about the way you operate, and I’m not really sure exactly what you’re doing or how to fix it because I’m totally uninvolved, drives away new staff members + mid level staff members (who the players love) and pisses them off. I’m sure you have reasons why, and I’m sure they are totally justifiable in every case, but that’s not the point. The point is your staff turnover is too high, and if you want to grow and to have fresh, unjaded, staff you have to do whatever it takes to change that while maintaining or even raising your standards of excellence. Period"

I'll argue a point or two here. First off, mid-level imms typically leave because of real life. Heroimms leave because of burnout. It's like Cyradia said, there's a lot of stick with very little carrot, and some people don't get that when they heroimm. They go from constant interaction and the game side of the mud to the other side where it's just not as much fun. Especially at 51 and 52.

Second - A lot of the falloff in the player base (just my opinion) is due to the same thing I said before. People getting sidetracked by real life. Ultimately we're not drawing the 14 year old crowd anymore because the graphical appeal of mmo's is larger to some extent. They don't remember the days of bbs and surfing the web with lynx. They don't imagine well, and to them it's just a lot of text. Play out a halo 3 fight next to a log of hunsobo for example. Obviously this doesn't apply to all of them.

Third - I agree that some imm responses can seem harsh, but they're usually full of valid points. For every single one of these logs crying cuz the imm was "a total asshole" over some valid blah blah blah, there are 10 things the imm did well that could be argued the other way. People don't post the good stuff, it's boring to talk about.

Ultimately the true nerds (hey I'm one of them) are still out there rolling dice and eatin pizza rolls until 4 am with their buddies, and they haven't got here yet. I like your points don't get me wrong, and I'm not an imm, anymore, but really that open mind thing goes both ways.

  

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HOT TopicGet off my chest, CF! [View all] , Stunna, Wed 14-Nov-07 12:15 PM
Reply Got a good email from Daevryn, for those interested., Stunna, 15-Nov-07 01:14 PM, #74
Reply I am VERY glad to hear that!, Amberion, 15-Nov-07 04:52 PM, #78
Reply Feel free:, Daevryn, 15-Nov-07 05:27 PM, #79
     Reply Re: donations, TheDude, 15-Nov-07 10:40 PM, #80
          Reply Hmm., DrumArtist, 16-Nov-07 07:39 AM, #81
Reply Two points (I want to help, I promise), Treebeard, 14-Nov-07 06:39 PM, #59
Reply Yea, we'll see what comes of this..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 06:56 PM, #60
Reply Here's an idea for you and the staff who are interested, Mekantos, 14-Nov-07 04:42 PM, #51
Reply I figured chat room was less threatening, but I'm down ..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:52 PM, #54
     Reply About that..., Mekantos, 14-Nov-07 04:58 PM, #55
Reply Email sent to Daevryn as requested. n/t, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:04 PM, #47
Reply People are missing the point of this post, Zulghinlour, 14-Nov-07 03:30 PM, #37
Reply RE: People are missing the point of this post, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 03:37 PM, #39
Reply RE: People are missing the point of this post, SirGankAlot, 14-Nov-07 03:40 PM, #42
Reply At last we agree!, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:01 PM, #45
Reply Too funny. You got me man. nt, Dallevian, 14-Nov-07 03:39 PM, #41
Reply RE: People are missing the point of this post, Linolaques, 14-Nov-07 04:30 PM, #49
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, incognito, 14-Nov-07 02:19 PM, #15
Reply Nitpicking., Dallevian, 14-Nov-07 01:57 PM, #13
Reply Why do you need to be an imm to do this?, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 01:59 PM, #12
Reply Again my 2 cents, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 02:27 PM, #20
Reply RE: Again my 2 cents, Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:31 PM, #25
Reply Several reasons, Dervish, 14-Nov-07 02:49 PM, #32
     Reply Here's the problem with that., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 03:08 PM, #36
          Reply God damn, colospgsbryan, 15-Nov-07 01:28 AM, #65
               Reply RE: God damn, Lyristeon, 15-Nov-07 09:35 AM, #66
                    Reply You're WAY WAY off base, chief., Stunna, 15-Nov-07 11:13 AM, #67
                    Reply RE: You're WAY WAY off base, chief., Adhelard, 15-Nov-07 12:09 PM, #72
                         Reply It would help keep things on track, Mekantos, 15-Nov-07 12:43 PM, #73
                         Reply Exactly. nt, Lyristeon, 15-Nov-07 01:19 PM, #75
                    Reply This is ridiculous, WildGirl, 15-Nov-07 11:30 AM, #71
Reply 100% agree with this. n/t, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:33 PM, #27
Reply I dont see him asking to be an imm..., colospgsbryan, 15-Nov-07 12:49 AM, #64
     Reply Exactly, Thank You! n/t, Stunna, 15-Nov-07 11:18 AM, #68
     Reply Devil's Advocate..., Zulghinlour, 15-Nov-07 11:22 AM, #69
          Reply RE: Devil's Advocate..., Stunna, 15-Nov-07 11:30 AM, #70
               Reply Take a deep breath..., Zulghinlour, 15-Nov-07 01:58 PM, #76
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 01:31 PM, #7
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 01:48 PM, #10
     Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:28 PM, #21
          Reply Being staff vs. chipping in as a player, elmeri_, 14-Nov-07 06:38 PM, #58
               Reply Yup. n/t, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 08:18 PM, #61
               Reply RE: Being staff vs. chipping in as a player, Adhelard, 14-Nov-07 08:30 PM, #62
                    Reply RE: Being staff vs. chipping in as a player, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 10:13 PM, #63
                         Reply That's more or less exactly my thought., elmeri_, 15-Nov-07 04:32 PM, #77
Reply I think the Imm response is clear., Adhelard, 14-Nov-07 01:11 PM, #4
Reply *ding* thanks for the bulb, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 01:25 PM, #6
     Reply Well, I get paid to listen., Adhelard, 14-Nov-07 01:45 PM, #9
          Reply Valg, Daevryn, and whoever else: you mind sitting in a ..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 01:51 PM, #11
          Reply Outline., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:13 PM, #14
               Reply Hah., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:22 PM, #17
               Reply Quite simply actually., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:28 PM, #22
               Reply I also have 20+ years of experience eating McDonalds..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:31 PM, #26
                    Reply I will help you then., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:33 PM, #28
                         Reply RE: I will help you then., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:40 PM, #29
                         Reply You missed the point., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:50 PM, #33
                              Reply RE: You missed the point., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 03:37 PM, #38
                                   Reply RE: You missed the point., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 03:46 PM, #44
                                        Reply RE: You missed the point., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:02 PM, #46
                                             Reply Oh and..., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 04:05 PM, #48
                                             Reply RE: Oh and..., Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 04:32 PM, #50
                                             Reply RE: You missed the point., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 04:42 PM, #52
                                                  Reply To be fair there..., Mekantos, 14-Nov-07 04:49 PM, #53
                         Reply Let me try..., Dervish, 14-Nov-07 02:58 PM, #35
                              Reply What Lyr is missing., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 03:39 PM, #40
                                   Reply RE: What Lyr is missing., Cerunnir, 14-Nov-07 03:46 PM, #43
               Reply RE: Hah., Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:30 PM, #23
               Reply There are ways..., Dallevian, 14-Nov-07 02:27 PM, #19
                    Reply Thank You. n/t, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:41 PM, #31
          Reply Agree with this 100%, Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:22 PM, #16
               Reply Good cop strikes again., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 02:23 PM, #18
                    Reply Yup. (n/t), Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:30 PM, #24
                    Reply RE: Good cop strikes again., Lyristeon, 14-Nov-07 02:41 PM, #30
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, SirGankAlot, 14-Nov-07 12:38 PM #2
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Stunna, 14-Nov-07 12:49 PM, #3
Reply RE: Get off my chest, CF!, Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 02:50 PM, #34
     Reply Yup., Stunna, 14-Nov-07 06:12 PM, #57
Reply 3/20, elmeri_, 14-Nov-07 05:14 PM, #56
Reply Very Nice Post. My Thoughts., WildGirl, 14-Nov-07 12:31 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Very Nice Post. My Thoughts., Baerinika, 14-Nov-07 01:20 PM, #5
     Reply RE: Very Nice Post. My Thoughts., Daevryn, 14-Nov-07 01:36 PM, #8
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