I was wondering if you could make the weapon skill you start with, the one your practice weapon is, start at 75%.

I got my friend to try this MUD, when I talked with him about it the next day he said it was gay because it took him literally 3 minutes to kill the first fleshy creature he found so he quit.

Let's face it. When trying a new mud. I don't log in and start hitting help files, I start getting my first couple levels and learn as I go along. I wonder how many other people tried to kill their first creature and got bored and quit after 3 minutes of missing?

You could give new characters 1 less practice to compensate.

Either that, or start new players in a room that is also an academy guildhall... I'm sure a lot of characters can handle trying to find their guild in a brand new game before they can even kill anything, but I'm sure a significant ammount of people have quit.
If a brand new mud is a TOTAL pain in the ass (i cant even get to level 2 and don't understand why) in the first 10 minutes, I'd quit.

I got my friend to try this MUD, when I talked with him about it the next day he said it was gay because it took him literally 3 minutes to kill the first fleshy creature he found so he quit.

Let's face it. When trying a new mud. I don't log in and start hitting help files, I start getting my first couple levels and learn as I go along. I wonder how many other people tried to kill their first creature and got bored and quit after 3 minutes of missing?

You could give new characters 1 less practice to compensate.

Either that, or start new players in a room that is also an academy guildhall... I'm sure a lot of characters can handle trying to find their guild in a brand new game before they can even kill anything, but I'm sure a significant ammount of people have quit.

1) We don't force everyone through the full tutorial. I've considered doing this differently, but we did make changes so you have to head through your guild on the way through the Academy, and you get reminded multiple times about practicing if you try to proceed without doing so. Removing the door that goes directly to the Arena might be a solution there.

2) I'm boggled that you suddenly care about retaining newbies. I'm pretty sure that the sort of thing that drives off more new players than not getting free percentage points in one skill (two history entries from a certain someone):

"Temp-titled after repeatedly attacking the same naked guy (multiple kills followed by taunting after) who was trying to figure out (aloud) where the Galadon trainer was.

So, a couple days later, *name* finds the same (now out-of-range) newbie, ganked in Market Square by other people. His response: You tell (Newbie) 'I am now destroying all of your belongings.'

That guy's victim? Yeah. Last time he ever logged on. I'm guessing it wasn't because of his skill rating in a weapon.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

n/t

Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torment of man.

Sorry I waxed a ooc (read: says 'you fagot'), link dropping scrub who sexually harassed the hell out of my female character.

Seriously Valg, I feel awful.

No lost sleep here, Good riddance.

This was some time ago, but the person never swore, or even acted aggressive. In fact, he made no effort to stop you from killing him (repeatedly), or from sacrificing his blue steel Galadon guard gear.

He definitely didn't drop link, as you killed him at 00:09, 00:28, 00:46, and 01:03 system time. Given that the ghost time is just over 15 minutes, hard to see how any link manipulation came into play.

He did ask (over yell and the newbie channel) where the trainer was. Not sure what was so provocative about that. After you killed him, he more or less sat around the same room and spoke with a nearby druid, who encouraged him to get off his butt and look for new stuff. He eventually unghosted, and you killed him in the same room, with him wearing nothing.

This isn't an isolated incident. You play a lot of lowbie-bashers who only go after the clueless, and spend a lot of time trash-talking them. (Heck, we've very recently gotten notes to immortal about some of the 'less impressive' roleplay these characters have shown.) Rationalize it however you want, but don't expect me to believe that you give a crap about newbie retention in general.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

00%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> look
Market Square
This bustling square lies at the intersection of the High Road and the
Trade Road. Traders from every city have come here to try to convince you
to buy their cheap wares. None of it is even worth a second glance. The
High road continues to the north and south and the Trade Road continues to
the east and west.


A large sack is lying here.
The corpse of Xryss is here, rigid hands still clutching a fatal stab
wound.
A skeletal warrior stands here awaiting its master's commands.
A human attempts to look more imposing than he appears.
(Invis) Garivold is here.
A small, playful kitten is bouncing around here.
Xryss is here.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Xryss yells 'Help someone is attacking me!'
Garivold utters the words, 'sleep'.
Xryss misses Garivold.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Xryss's punch misses Garivold.
Xryss's punch hits Garivold.
Garivold fades into existence.
Garivold's slash devastates Xryss!

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Xryss suddenly springs towards Garivold, but falls when he moves out of his
path.
Xryss's bash misses Garivold.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Garivold utters the words, 'ghoulish numbing'.
Xryss's flesh grows slightly pale as Garivold beckons with a grasping hand.
Garivold's numbing grip wounds Xryss.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> look
Xryss's punch hits Garivold.
Xryss's punch hits Garivold.
Garivold's slash devastates Xryss!

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> look gari
As you look around, you suddenly notice
a robed man standing nearby. He is ta
6'3, and has a physique that would fit any warrior, but his garb appears to b
a Mage. His skin is the color of ash, and his shaggy mane of hair white. His
shows nothing but pure contempt and arrogance as he inspects the surrounding
Strapped to his back is a massive claymore,which should be pulling him to the
but he bears its weight with ease. As you watch, he turns and walks away...
Garivold, a male half-drow, has some small but disgusting cuts.

Garivold is using:
<worn on finger> a wide copper ring
<worn on finger> a wide copper ring
<worn around neck> a necklace of pyrohydra teeth
<worn around neck> a necklace of pyrohydra teeth
<worn on body> (Glowing) a shirt of shining silver chain
<worn on head> a dented iron helm
<worn on face> a crimson-eyed silver mask
<worn on legs> a set of polished iron legplates
<worn on feet> a pair of earth-toned boots
<worn on hands> a pair of reinforced leather gloves
<worn on arms> red-gold dragon armguards
<worn about body> a skin from the snow leopard
<worn about waist> a fine leather belt
<worn around wrist> a charred leather bracer
<worn around wrist> a spiked iron bracer
<mainhand wielded> a pitch-black longsword

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Garivold utters the words, 'ghoulish numbing'.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
A human mercenary's slash scratches Xryss.
Garivold's slash mauls Xryss.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Elemath has arrived.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Garivold utters the words, 'ghoulish numbing'.
Xryss's flesh grows slightly pale as Garivold beckons with a grasping hand.
Garivold's numbing grip wounds Xryss.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Xryss's punch misses Garivold.
Garivold's slash mauls Xryss.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Xryss's kicked dirt misses Garivold.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
The animation leaves Xryss's body.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Elemath looks at Garivold.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Garivold utters the words, 'ghoulish numbing'.
Xryss's flesh grows pale as Garivold beckons ominously with a grasping hand.
Garivold's numbing grip MUTILATES Xryss!

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
A human mercenary's slash grazes Xryss.
Xryss's punch hits Garivold.
Garivold's slash devastates Xryss!

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> pray X
Garivold utters the words, 'ghoulish numbing'.
Xryss's flesh grows pale as Garivold beckons ominously with a grasping hand.
Garivold's numbing grip wounds Xryss.
Elemath looks at Xryss.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> pray Xryss ju
A human mercenary's slash misses Xryss.
Xryss's punch misses Garivold.
Xryss's punch hits Garivold.
Garivold's slash devastates Xryss!
Xryss is DEAD!!

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> pray Xryss just
Burgrum has arrived.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> pray Xryss just drop
Burgrum leaves east.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> pray Xryss just dropped link
Tuhkam has arrived.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> pray Xryss just dropped link to a
Tuhkam leaves west.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> pray Xryss just dropped link to avoid getting kill
Elemath leaves east.

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> pray Xryss just dropped link to avoid getting killed.
looYou pray to the heavens for help!

<100%hp 96%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> look in corpse
The corpse of Xryss contains:
Nothing.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> look

Garivold rolls his eyes, disgusted.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> Market Square
This bustling square lies at the intersection of the High Road and the
Trade Road. Traders from every city have come here to try to convince you
to buy their cheap wares. None of it is even worth a second glance. The
High road continues to the north and south and the Trade Road continues to
the east and west.


The corpse of Xryss is here, badly sliced and hacked.
A large sack is lying here.
The corpse of Xryss is here, rigid hands still clutching a fatal stab
wound.
A skeletal warrior stands here awaiting its master's commands.
A human attempts to look more imposing than he appears.
Garivold is here.
A small, playful kitten is bouncing around here.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> grin
Das has arrived.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> grin gari

Das leaves west.
You grin evilly at him.
Burgrum has arrived.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Das has arrived.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Burgrum leaves east.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Yzthryn goes to sleep.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
Garivold finishes eating a tender leg of lamb.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> clap
Das leaves south.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> clap gari
where
saytoYou clap at his performance.

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> saytoAn Immortal has transferred you.
The Realm of the Dead
You are standing on an immense, gray stone floor that stretches as far as you
can see in all directions. Rough winds plunging from the dark, starless sky
tear savagely at your fragile body.


People near you:

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)> say sorry man, thought i was susposed to pray about that
You say 'sorry man, thought i was
susposed to pray about that'

<100%hp 100%mana 100%mv 6447tnl (10.46%)>
An Immortal says 'Are you familiar with the term 'griefer'?'

Specifically, the MUD kicked him for entering too many commands. He probably panicked and mashed flee a billion times, or something similar. That's why the 'protected' echo never kicked in-- we don't give it for self-spam. He reconnected right afterwards, and had already died, for about the billionth time. I'm not sure what you expect us to do when we see all of that.

By all means, if someone's link cause them to avoid being killed, feel free to pray about it and have staff look into it. This was just you being vindictive.

------------

In the broader sense, if you can't see about 5000 ways that the incidents between you and this guy could have played out differently, you have serious problems.

Good example, assuming he actually did go OOC towards you:
Pray Hi. (Name) is going OOC towards me. I think he's pretty new here, and might need a talk.

OK example:
Kill them for the affront. Say something IC, then move on to doing anything else.

Your example:
Spend 60 minutes on: Kill them, taunt them, and take their stuff four times in an hour until they stop logging in.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

Every time I killed him, I offered him the chance to apolagize and I'd leave him alone. Every time, he refused and talked more smack. I am sorry, but I can't feel sorry for him at all.

If he didn't want to get killed, he would have either apolagized or maybe... like I did, learned from getting owned constantly and became a decent pk'er.

There is nothing wrong with someone ganking the hell out of anyone, no matter how new they are. And I don't see how you can chastise someone for that.
That is how I learned to PK, by getting bashed.
I didn't sit around, talk #### and cry. I didn't post about how cheap their tactics were or cry that it was unfair.
I blamed the death on myself, and asked myself how not to die in the same manner. Sorry, but its carrion fields, this game's philosophy used to be bash first and don't ask questions, just loot.
Yes I want new players to come to the game, but we're a PK mud. Not carebear fields. If you can't handle getting owned, then go play another mud. CF isn't for you.


I did make some comeback characters that I dropped for newer ones, and some lowbies that need to be deleted... probably immedietly. I couldn't rationalize throwing away somthing I spent time on leveling and skilling, but its now even apparent to me that they don't add anything. When you lose all interest in a char, it's difficult to put any effort into their rp. EDIT: So yeah, they pretty much suck. Lesson learned, and I apolagize for them.

Than a jaded bastard like you, even if you perhaps can make a better character than them.. if you wanted to make something decent.

If I spot complete newbies, I go quite a bit out of my way to avoid putting myself in situations where my role force me to kill them. If I play a fortress guy, and I spot a complete newbie fire giant, I will make sure I dont frequent the areas he would be in as a newbie.

That the total newb I hunted down relentlessly also happened to be the guy who went broken-english-insulting-ape#### on me and sexually harasses my female character. I enjoyed every moment of it because of that.
Pro would have done it

When I got ROTD'd when Valg is talking about, wasn't my first session I'd encountered Xryss.


I guess I'll end my input here, and let anyone else take pot shots and let the thread die. I have no regrets about multi-killing a smack-talking, sexually harassing, ooc going, disco'ing clear buffer, child. Thank you for the hi-jack though, but I'd very much like new players to come to CF and stay.

If I have to gank the RARE ones that fit the above critera off the face of Thera, then so be it.

You can easily tell a newbie that he's beneath you, or that the dark gods admire strength, not weakness, and so you intend to let him grow stronger before testing him again... etc.

Or you can pad your pk ratio and multikill.

This is pretty much analogous to beating some kid up, then doing it again and again afterwards because he called you an asshole for doing it the first time.

If someone is standing in Galadon asking where the trainer is...

... do you really think your role forces you to kill him?

No. You make the choice to be an asshole in real life.

I kill everybody at least once. Newbie or not. If the guy is completely green, then I won't actively hunt him from that point forward. But if I'm just walking around and happen across him, and it would be counter to my role to not at least attack him, then I'll go ahead and jump him. Though, I might try to do something like spam damage instead of lag, so that he at least has the option of fleeing and quaffing.

All that being said, I'm not sure in what world a newbie would have the fortitude to overcome being spam killed and spam full looted, but would be turned off by starting the game with 40% sword.

nt

When the clueless newbies quit after 3 minutes and never get to 11.
For me to full loot.

You got me.

>...or from sacrificing his blue steel Galadon guard gear.

I just got a mental immage of a galadon guard flashing "Blue Steel" Zoolander style. Hah.

I don't really see this as necessary, but I could get behind an addition to the starting weapons where they'd tell your ass to go practice at your guildmaster occasionally if you were fighting with them and your skill was less than say 50%.

n/t

Wouldnt that create a disadvantage for people that know how the rewards of the academy quest work?
I think it might be better if your original starting weapon just gives 30% or 40% bonus to your weapon skill till you reach level 5.

and tell how that affected his gaming experience. If he's willing to learn the game, then he'll give it another try.

The game could add an echo for newbies that are trying to use a weapon they don't know how to.

I think a better idea than a forced spoon is to educate the newbie to practice the skill.

That works, because it's my friend.
The random joe who sees us on top mud sites, clicks us... he gives us 5-10 minutes to impress him.

If he goes to fight his first mob, and it takes 3 minutes (literally, roll a thief and go fight an agro fleshy), theres a good chance we lost that one. >quit, and click another mud on the site

I've never played a mud where you actually need to wander around the world you don't know to practice basic fighting to be able to handle the very first mobs to get to level 2. It's not that hard to see why my friend thought all fights were going to be similar to that, extreemly lame and time consuming.


I'm not saying give them 100% all level 1 skills, I'm saying let them have 35% more starting skill so they can handle a fleshy and maybe stick around long enough to learn about praccing.

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nt

Even a necromancer that doesnt practice sword past 40, isnt going to take 3RL minutes to kill a fleshy creature. The Guildmaster automates and makes you input a command to keep going 3 times before letting you leave. If your friend doesnt want to learn basic helpfiles, then he is going to have to learn the hard way.

Hey, it's his first time, he's NOT going to know a few things, that's the fun and challenge in learning. Do you have any idea how many times I died to little girls and that freaking small bunny outside the Inn when I was new? Did I quit the mud because in 5 minutes I couldn't figure out fight mechanics? Hell no.

Obviously he wants to learn by killing stuff, so tell him to roll an assassin, or warrior, and get a little more machismo earlier on.

You don't have to make up #### or exaggerate your post to get a point across. You want 75% in the skill, type Prac Sword once or twice, and you have it.

Geez, this thread just irks me.




"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

<100%hp 100%m 46%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)> The Vast Cavern


A rather angry fleshy creature thrashes about here.
An animated wooden soldier is here.
A rather angry fleshy creature thrashes about here.
A rather angry fleshy creature thrashes about here.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)> e

The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature is in perfect health.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)> No way! You are still fighting!
The angry fleshy creature is in perfect health.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)> sk


Level 1: dagger 40% mace 1%
spear 1% sword 1%
backstab 1% dodge 1%
trip 1% haggle 1%
hide 1% peek 1%
scrolls 1% recall 100%
Level 2: aim n/a
Level 3: dirt kicking n/a
Level 4: sneak n/a
Level 5: steal n/a
Level 6: evade n/a
Level 7: pick lock n/a
Level 8: elbow n/a
Level 9: light armor use n/a
Level 10: detect hidden n/a relock n/a
Level 11: knee n/a panhandle n/a
Level 12: disarm n/a second attack n/a
Level 13: parry n/a
Level 14: kick n/a
Level 15: hand to hand n/a meditation n/a
circle n/a
Level 16: fast healing n/a
Level 18: lore n/a pierce n/a
Level 19: rogues awareness n/a
Level 20: precise aim n/a pen n/a
Level 25: enhanced damage n/a dual wield n/a
Level 42: opportunity strike n/a
The angry fleshy creature is in perfect health.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is in perfect health.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature dodges your pierce.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
You dodge the angry fleshy creature's claw.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)> help panhandle
PANHANDLE
Syntax: panhandle

A charismatic rogue can attempt to con or otherwise convince the common people
of a city into handing over some spare change. This requires a highly
visible place to work, generally the streets of a major city. This rapidly
becomes an ineffective ploy if attempted too often.
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 45%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature is in perfect health.

<100%hp 100%m 56%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 56%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 56%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature tries to disarm you, but fails.
The angry fleshy creature parries your pierce.
The angry fleshy creature has some small but disgusting cuts.

<100%hp 100%m 56%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 56%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
You dodge the angry fleshy creature's claw.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 56%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 56%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature is writhing in agony.

<100%hp 100%m 56%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
You dodge the angry fleshy creature's claw.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw scratches you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<82%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<82%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<82%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<82%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<82%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
You hear something's death cry.
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<82%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
You parry the angry fleshy creature's claw.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<82%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
Though you are wounded, you feel as if the battle is going well.
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<82%hp 100%m 68%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature parries your pierce.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
You parry the angry fleshy creature's claw.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
You parry the angry fleshy creature's claw.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<95%hp 100%m 79%mv 1700tnl (51.43%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw scratches you.
You have become better at dagger!
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature is gushing blood.

<86%hp 100%m 79%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature checks the ground for tracks.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
You parry the angry fleshy creature's claw.
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
You parry the angry fleshy creature's claw.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is covered with bleeding wounds.

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
You parry the angry fleshy creature's claw.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is writhing in agony.

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature is writhing in agony.

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
The angry fleshy creature deflects your pierce with its shield.
The angry fleshy creature is writhing in agony.

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce misses the angry fleshy creature.
You feel a surge of confidence as the battle goes in your favor!
The angry fleshy creature is writhing in agony.

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv 1698tnl (51.49%)>
The angry fleshy creature's claw misses you.
Your pierce scratches the angry fleshy creature.
The angry fleshy creature is DEAD!!
You receive 101 experience points.
You get 11 copper coins from the corpse of the angry fleshy creature.
The gods give you one copper coin for your sacrifice of the corpse of the angry
fleshy creature.


Long enough?
Now multiply that by 3 for the two others that were in the room.
Thief.

Do you have a point, or are you just trying to get attention. Your post on Dio's about three legacies and not able to get more than three edges, more than speaks for you, on top of that our little insight into your history file.

Prac Sword, Prac sword... And try again.

If your "friend" has such a hard time figuring that out, CF is probably not the mud for him.

If you're just looking for a fight, look somewhere else buddy.


"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

n/t

The guildmaster gives several warnings to tell people to practice skills.

not to mention to even walk through the academy you HAVE to pass your guildmaster now, unlike before where you could accidentally turn into the wrong one. With that said, I don't know HOW he could have missed it.

that all new players go through tutorial phase.

I'm willing to say a significant number just start trying to level, planning on learning the game as they go. A 3 minute fight with your first mob = instant turn off.

If it did for my friend, and if it's easy to see that it could happen to others, it probably has happened quite a bit. You don't have long to make a first impression.

again... seeing as though you have to WALK PAST THE GUILDMASTER in order to even get to your first mob, I can't really sympathize. Maybe MUDs just aren't for him? There's always that possibility. Everybody who plays isn't going to like it.

I dont know perhaps I am not the norm, but I am super new to Carrion Fields, played one character to 19th level(Ulubaka the Orc) and now I have given him up and am onto a new more appealing character, but when I started out I read every damn help file twice just to make sure I understood everything. And with both characters I have never had a problem killing fleshy creatures, should be able to hit level 5 solo just by killing in them in less than 1 hour, or at least that is all it has taken me both times now.

It just seems common sense to read as much as you can, I mean its all right there for the taking.

Also, I found Carrion Fields on the top mud list and thats how I ended up here. Reading through the descriptions CF sounded by far the most well done! I am incredibly happy to have found this MUD and plan on sticking around for awhile to come, hopefully more people can be attracted with my outlook and I think CF would hit a new stride!

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