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UmironSat 16-Jan-16 10:14 PM
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#62302, "RE: I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but"


          

Two points:

1) I don't think we "disregard" player feedback. We read it and consider it, both the feedback that's in support of a particular change and feedback that isn't. Sometimes that feedback manifests itself in future changes, but when it doesn't I don't think it's fair to describe a subset of (oftentimes vocal) players not getting what they want as us blanketly disregarding the playerbase.

2) I try to give players the benefit of the doubt when I have access to information they don't. Oftentimes my response to a comment or criticism is to simply state that the assertion being made isn't true (because, again, I have access to evidence of the fact). Even if you sift out the hyperbole and the emotional knee-jerk reactions, players often make claims that just aren't accurate or don't consider perspectives other than their own. That isn't always their fault, but it makes for poor arguments.

  

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HOT TopicPK Milestones [View all] , SPN, Fri 15-Jan-16 09:43 AM
Reply Just opinion..., RFP, 17-Feb-16 05:50 PM, #70
Reply Dude, you missed the ####storm (the discsussion about t..., mharlndarn, 18-Feb-16 12:28 AM, #71
     Reply But it can be easily avoided without removing rewards f..., RFP, 18-Feb-16 02:40 AM, #72
          Reply Honestly the level tiered rewards were the only problem, KaguMaru, 18-Feb-16 02:51 AM, #73
               Reply Edges should be removed completely (nt), Bemused, 18-Feb-16 03:16 AM, #74
                    Reply Customization argument, KaguMaru, 18-Feb-16 06:29 AM, #75
                         Reply I rip my bandaids off. I guess you're more of a "tease..., Bemused, 18-Feb-16 09:13 AM, #76
Reply Screw it. I'm gonna say I'm strangely cool with this ch..., TJHuron, 21-Jan-16 11:29 PM, #69
Reply Good Change, Tsunami, 17-Jan-16 11:55 AM, #64
Reply RE: Good Change, GrahamC, 17-Jan-16 01:58 PM, #66
     Reply Hello GrahamC, Tsunami, 17-Jan-16 02:55 PM, #67
Reply Thumbs up, Doof, 17-Jan-16 05:18 AM, #57
Reply I am fine with this change., Polmier (Anonymous), 16-Jan-16 04:42 PM, #38
Reply This kinda sucks IMO, Jafel, 15-Jan-16 07:51 PM, #21
Reply You left because of edge point changes 10 years ago? n/..., Lhydia, 15-Jan-16 08:19 PM, #22
Reply You are a toolbox, Tac, 15-Jan-16 09:45 PM, #25
Reply RE: This kinda sucks IMO, Umiron, 16-Jan-16 01:50 PM, #33
     Reply All my characters merit more than they have., Murphy, 16-Jan-16 03:07 PM, #35
     Reply RE: This kinda sucks IMO, Jafel, 16-Jan-16 03:59 PM, #36
          Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 04:33 PM, #37
               Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Bemused, 16-Jan-16 05:51 PM, #40
                    Reply Let's try that with thief points, eh?, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 05:57 PM, #41
                    Reply RE: Let's try that with thief points, eh?, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 06:38 PM, #43
                         Reply I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 10:05 PM, #46
                              Reply RE: I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but, Umiron, 16-Jan-16 10:14 PM #47
                              Reply I'm probably emotional right here., Murphy, 16-Jan-16 10:33 PM, #48
                                   Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 10:59 PM, #49
                                        Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Onewingedangel, 16-Jan-16 11:23 PM, #50
                                        Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:43 PM, #51
                                             Reply Honestly, did you expect this change to be universally ..., Tac, 16-Jan-16 11:48 PM, #52
                                             Reply RE: Honestly, did you expect this change to be universa..., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:51 PM, #53
                                             Reply Holy crap stfu , Demos, 17-Jan-16 10:01 AM, #63
                                             Reply I'm sorry you feel that way., Murphy, 17-Jan-16 12:02 AM, #55
                                             Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., GrahamC, 17-Jan-16 01:52 PM, #65
                                        Reply Why bother reading player feedback??, Saagkri, 16-Jan-16 11:53 PM, #54
                                        Reply RE: Why bother reading player feedback??, Destuvius, 17-Jan-16 08:24 AM, #61
                                             Reply Few enough players as it is without them moving to staf..., incognito, 17-Jan-16 09:25 AM, #62
                                        Reply I'll be honest, Murphy, 17-Jan-16 05:59 AM, #58
                              Reply Guess that goes to show I've played too long., Jormyr, 17-Jan-16 02:38 AM, #56
                    Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 06:20 PM, #42
                         Reply Just chill, its a nice change., mharlndarn, 16-Jan-16 06:47 PM, #44
                              Reply Agreed. There was definitely some frustration to it., Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 07:07 PM, #45
                                   Reply The thing is getting advantage is sooo much fun :) NT, Kstatida, 21-Jan-16 10:40 AM, #68
Reply I do not like this change., Sarien, 15-Jan-16 04:15 PM, #15
Reply I am also critical of this change, Bemused, 15-Jan-16 05:30 PM, #19
Reply If you ONLY pk for EP, Destuvius, 15-Jan-16 07:38 PM, #20
     Reply RE: If you ONLY pk for EP, Sarien, 15-Jan-16 08:23 PM, #23
          Reply Both are rewarded, Destuvius, 15-Jan-16 09:25 PM, #24
               Reply I still do half my gearing via PK lol. That's an incen..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 01:06 AM, #29
Reply Please remove the explore/observe x by level 30 edgepoi..., ibuki, 15-Jan-16 03:43 PM, #12
Reply RE: Please remove the explore/observe x by level 30 edg..., Mcbeth, 15-Jan-16 04:52 PM, #18
Reply Regarding Edge Changes and This Whole Discussion, Homard, 15-Jan-16 03:06 PM, #10
Reply RE: Regarding Edge Changes and This Whole Discussion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 03:46 PM, #13
     Reply I think I may have been enjoying CF wrong. nt, Saagkri, 15-Jan-16 04:04 PM, #14
     Reply Oh man, I hope no one's overexerting themselves over CF..., Homard, 15-Jan-16 04:29 PM, #17
          Reply 1 thing..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 01:04 AM, #28
               Reply Oh yeah, I've been happy, too., Homard, 16-Jan-16 11:43 AM, #32
Reply RE: PK Milestones, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 10:26 AM, #2
Reply Some feedback/suggestion, Tac, 15-Jan-16 10:41 AM, #3
Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 10:47 AM, #4
     Reply Fair enough, Tac, 15-Jan-16 11:59 AM, #5
     Reply Frankly..., Umiron, 15-Jan-16 12:19 PM, #6
          Reply Holy ####ing ####. Glad someone finally said it from a..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 12:58 AM, #27
          Reply Me too, lasentia, 16-Jan-16 06:40 AM, #30
               Reply RE: the rest are just perks, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 05:29 PM, #39
          Reply So thinking about it, incognito, 17-Jan-16 06:39 AM, #59
               Reply RE: So thinking about it, Bemused, 17-Jan-16 07:12 AM, #60
     Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Isildur, 15-Jan-16 01:44 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 01:59 PM, #8
               Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Isildur, 15-Jan-16 02:34 PM, #9
                    Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 03:30 PM, #11
Reply Interesting, GrahamC, 15-Jan-16 04:26 PM, #16
Reply Your statement doesn't match reality. (nt), Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:24 AM, #31
     Reply RE: Your statement doesn't match reality. (nt), GrahamC, 16-Jan-16 02:10 PM, #34
Reply I feel like you're my spirit animal. NT, TMNS, 16-Jan-16 12:47 AM, #26
Reply http://www.carrionfields.net/helpsearch.php?keywords=ed..., Tac, 15-Jan-16 10:21 AM, #1
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