Umiron | Fri 15-Jan-16 01:59 PM |
Member since 29th May 2017
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#62250, "RE: Some feedback/suggestion"
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>Here are my ideas: > >1. Only award edge points if the person killed is worth some >threshold (TBD) of AP charges.
Maybe, but meh. Two concerns:
1) Players don't know (and we'll never tell them) how many charges someone is worth, at which point they're going to go fishing with nets anyway.
2) This is still abusable. It probably wouldn't happen often, but it would happen and I don't feel like rewarding people for PK is important enough to justify putting up with that crap or trying to code around it. When you PK someone worth a lot of charges you (almost always) get access to very good equipment and a big bag of glory. In my book, that's reward enough.
>2. Don't award edge points for multi-killing, and be pretty >strict about what qualifies as multi-killing. (This may be >covered by #1 above).
Again, I just don't care enough to do this. It would require a lot of refactoring to do this, all for a feature I don't think has much value. If I really wanted to make EPs for PKs work, this would obviously be a good idea though.
>3. Do away with the "get X kills by rank Y" awards. These only >create perverse incentives to stop what you're doing (i.e. >ranking) and level sit until you reach the PK threshold for >your current level tier.
I'll buy that.
>4. Only award points for solo kills.
It's actually not ganging that worries me.
>5. Set the cap at which PKs stop generating edge points fairly >low, such that its reasonably attainable by most people who >*try* to PK even if they're not super great at it. Maybe 20 >PKs. The goal is to encourage people to participate; not to >juice up the participants who are already really good. >Potentially make each individual PK worth more since you're >setting the cap lower and because of #s 1-3 above. > >With each of the above I have: > >1. Removed the (edge point) incentive to kill people who >aren't good at PvP. > >2. Removed the (edge point) incentive to kill any one >character repeatedly. > >3. Removed the (edge point) incentive to level sit in specific >tiers. (There are still plenty of other reasons to level sit >that aren't addressed by this change.) > >4. Removed the (edge point) incentive to gang people. > >5. Removed the incentive *once you've reached 20 PKs* to kill >someone for no reason other than to generate edge points.
I see this as a more of a half measure at best, but mainly see my answer to #1/2.
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PK Milestones
[View all] , SPN, Fri 15-Jan-16 09:43 AM
Just opinion...,
RFP,
17-Feb-16 05:50 PM, #70
Dude, you missed the ####storm (the discsussion about t...,
mharlndarn,
18-Feb-16 12:28 AM, #71
But it can be easily avoided without removing rewards f...,
RFP,
18-Feb-16 02:40 AM, #72
Honestly the level tiered rewards were the only problem,
KaguMaru,
18-Feb-16 02:51 AM, #73
Edges should be removed completely (nt),
Bemused,
18-Feb-16 03:16 AM, #74
Customization argument,
KaguMaru,
18-Feb-16 06:29 AM, #75
I rip my bandaids off. I guess you're more of a "tease...,
Bemused,
18-Feb-16 09:13 AM, #76
Screw it. I'm gonna say I'm strangely cool with this ch...,
TJHuron,
21-Jan-16 11:29 PM, #69
Good Change,
Tsunami,
17-Jan-16 11:55 AM, #64
RE: Good Change,
GrahamC,
17-Jan-16 01:58 PM, #66
Hello GrahamC,
Tsunami,
17-Jan-16 02:55 PM, #67
Thumbs up,
Doof,
17-Jan-16 05:18 AM, #57
I am fine with this change.,
Polmier (Anonymous),
16-Jan-16 04:42 PM, #38
This kinda sucks IMO,
Jafel,
15-Jan-16 07:51 PM, #21
You left because of edge point changes 10 years ago? n/...,
Lhydia,
15-Jan-16 08:19 PM, #22
You are a toolbox,
Tac,
15-Jan-16 09:45 PM, #25
RE: This kinda sucks IMO,
Umiron,
16-Jan-16 01:50 PM, #33
All my characters merit more than they have.,
Murphy,
16-Jan-16 03:07 PM, #35
RE: This kinda sucks IMO,
Jafel,
16-Jan-16 03:59 PM, #36
RE: Gaining Edge Points,
Jormyr,
16-Jan-16 04:33 PM, #37
RE: Gaining Edge Points,
Bemused,
16-Jan-16 05:51 PM, #40
Let's try that with thief points, eh?,
Murphy,
16-Jan-16 05:57 PM, #41
RE: Let's try that with thief points, eh?,
Jormyr,
16-Jan-16 06:38 PM, #43
I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but,
Murphy,
16-Jan-16 10:05 PM, #46
RE: I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but,
Umiron,
16-Jan-16 10:14 PM, #47
I'm probably emotional right here.,
Murphy,
16-Jan-16 10:33 PM, #48
RE: I'm probably emotional right here.,
Umiron,
16-Jan-16 10:59 PM, #49
RE: I'm probably emotional right here.,
Onewingedangel,
16-Jan-16 11:23 PM, #50
RE: I'm probably emotional right here.,
Umiron,
16-Jan-16 11:43 PM, #51
Honestly, did you expect this change to be universally ...,
Tac,
16-Jan-16 11:48 PM, #52
RE: Honestly, did you expect this change to be universa...,
Umiron,
16-Jan-16 11:51 PM, #53
Holy crap stfu ,
Demos,
17-Jan-16 10:01 AM, #63
I'm sorry you feel that way.,
Murphy,
17-Jan-16 12:02 AM, #55
RE: I'm probably emotional right here.,
GrahamC,
17-Jan-16 01:52 PM, #65
Why bother reading player feedback??,
Saagkri,
16-Jan-16 11:53 PM, #54
RE: Why bother reading player feedback??,
Destuvius,
17-Jan-16 08:24 AM, #61
Few enough players as it is without them moving to staf...,
incognito,
17-Jan-16 09:25 AM, #62
I'll be honest,
Murphy,
17-Jan-16 05:59 AM, #58
Guess that goes to show I've played too long.,
Jormyr,
17-Jan-16 02:38 AM, #56
RE: Gaining Edge Points,
Jormyr,
16-Jan-16 06:20 PM, #42
Just chill, its a nice change.,
mharlndarn,
16-Jan-16 06:47 PM, #44
Agreed. There was definitely some frustration to it.,
Jormyr,
16-Jan-16 07:07 PM, #45
The thing is getting advantage is sooo much fun :) NT,
Kstatida,
21-Jan-16 10:40 AM, #68
I do not like this change.,
Sarien,
15-Jan-16 04:15 PM, #15
I am also critical of this change,
Bemused,
15-Jan-16 05:30 PM, #19
If you ONLY pk for EP,
Destuvius,
15-Jan-16 07:38 PM, #20
RE: If you ONLY pk for EP,
Sarien,
15-Jan-16 08:23 PM, #23
Both are rewarded,
Destuvius,
15-Jan-16 09:25 PM, #24
I still do half my gearing via PK lol. That's an incen...,
TMNS,
16-Jan-16 01:06 AM, #29
Please remove the explore/observe x by level 30 edgepoi...,
ibuki,
15-Jan-16 03:43 PM, #12
RE: Please remove the explore/observe x by level 30 edg...,
Mcbeth,
15-Jan-16 04:52 PM, #18
Regarding Edge Changes and This Whole Discussion,
Homard,
15-Jan-16 03:06 PM, #10
RE: Regarding Edge Changes and This Whole Discussion,
Umiron,
15-Jan-16 03:46 PM, #13
I think I may have been enjoying CF wrong. nt,
Saagkri,
15-Jan-16 04:04 PM, #14
Oh man, I hope no one's overexerting themselves over CF...,
Homard,
15-Jan-16 04:29 PM, #17
1 thing...,
TMNS,
16-Jan-16 01:04 AM, #28
Oh yeah, I've been happy, too.,
Homard,
16-Jan-16 11:43 AM, #32
RE: PK Milestones,
Umiron,
15-Jan-16 10:26 AM, #2
Some feedback/suggestion,
Tac,
15-Jan-16 10:41 AM, #3
RE: Some feedback/suggestion,
Umiron,
15-Jan-16 10:47 AM, #4
Fair enough,
Tac,
15-Jan-16 11:59 AM, #5
Frankly...,
Umiron,
15-Jan-16 12:19 PM, #6
Holy ####ing ####. Glad someone finally said it from a...,
TMNS,
16-Jan-16 12:58 AM, #27
Me too,
lasentia,
16-Jan-16 06:40 AM, #30
RE: the rest are just perks,
Murphy,
16-Jan-16 05:29 PM, #39
So thinking about it,
incognito,
17-Jan-16 06:39 AM, #59
RE: So thinking about it,
Bemused,
17-Jan-16 07:12 AM, #60
RE: Some feedback/suggestion,
Isildur,
15-Jan-16 01:44 PM, #7
RE: Some feedback/suggestion,
Umiron,
15-Jan-16 01:59 PM #8
RE: Some feedback/suggestion,
Isildur,
15-Jan-16 02:34 PM, #9
RE: Some feedback/suggestion,
Umiron,
15-Jan-16 03:30 PM, #11
Interesting,
GrahamC,
15-Jan-16 04:26 PM, #16
Your statement doesn't match reality. (nt),
Umiron,
16-Jan-16 11:24 AM, #31
RE: Your statement doesn't match reality. (nt),
GrahamC,
16-Jan-16 02:10 PM, #34
I feel like you're my spirit animal. NT,
TMNS,
16-Jan-16 12:47 AM, #26
http://www.carrionfields.net/helpsearch.php?keywords=ed...,
Tac,
15-Jan-16 10:21 AM, #1
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