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UmironFri 15-Jan-16 01:59 PM
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#62250, "RE: Some feedback/suggestion"


          

>Here are my ideas:
>
>1. Only award edge points if the person killed is worth some
>threshold (TBD) of AP charges.

Maybe, but meh. Two concerns:

1) Players don't know (and we'll never tell them) how many charges someone is worth, at which point they're going to go fishing with nets anyway.

2) This is still abusable. It probably wouldn't happen often, but it would happen and I don't feel like rewarding people for PK is important enough to justify putting up with that crap or trying to code around it. When you PK someone worth a lot of charges you (almost always) get access to very good equipment and a big bag of glory. In my book, that's reward enough.

>2. Don't award edge points for multi-killing, and be pretty
>strict about what qualifies as multi-killing. (This may be
>covered by #1 above).

Again, I just don't care enough to do this. It would require a lot of refactoring to do this, all for a feature I don't think has much value. If I really wanted to make EPs for PKs work, this would obviously be a good idea though.

>3. Do away with the "get X kills by rank Y" awards. These only
>create perverse incentives to stop what you're doing (i.e.
>ranking) and level sit until you reach the PK threshold for
>your current level tier.

I'll buy that.

>4. Only award points for solo kills.

It's actually not ganging that worries me.

>5. Set the cap at which PKs stop generating edge points fairly
>low, such that its reasonably attainable by most people who
>*try* to PK even if they're not super great at it. Maybe 20
>PKs. The goal is to encourage people to participate; not to
>juice up the participants who are already really good.
>Potentially make each individual PK worth more since you're
>setting the cap lower and because of #s 1-3 above.
>
>With each of the above I have:
>
>1. Removed the (edge point) incentive to kill people who
>aren't good at PvP.
>
>2. Removed the (edge point) incentive to kill any one
>character repeatedly.
>
>3. Removed the (edge point) incentive to level sit in specific
>tiers. (There are still plenty of other reasons to level sit
>that aren't addressed by this change.)
>
>4. Removed the (edge point) incentive to gang people.
>
>5. Removed the incentive *once you've reached 20 PKs* to kill
>someone for no reason other than to generate edge points.

I see this as a more of a half measure at best, but mainly see my answer to #1/2.

  

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HOT TopicPK Milestones [View all] , SPN, Fri 15-Jan-16 09:43 AM
Reply Just opinion..., RFP, 17-Feb-16 05:50 PM, #70
Reply Dude, you missed the ####storm (the discsussion about t..., mharlndarn, 18-Feb-16 12:28 AM, #71
     Reply But it can be easily avoided without removing rewards f..., RFP, 18-Feb-16 02:40 AM, #72
          Reply Honestly the level tiered rewards were the only problem, KaguMaru, 18-Feb-16 02:51 AM, #73
               Reply Edges should be removed completely (nt), Bemused, 18-Feb-16 03:16 AM, #74
                    Reply Customization argument, KaguMaru, 18-Feb-16 06:29 AM, #75
                         Reply I rip my bandaids off. I guess you're more of a "tease..., Bemused, 18-Feb-16 09:13 AM, #76
Reply Screw it. I'm gonna say I'm strangely cool with this ch..., TJHuron, 21-Jan-16 11:29 PM, #69
Reply Good Change, Tsunami, 17-Jan-16 11:55 AM, #64
Reply RE: Good Change, GrahamC, 17-Jan-16 01:58 PM, #66
     Reply Hello GrahamC, Tsunami, 17-Jan-16 02:55 PM, #67
Reply Thumbs up, Doof, 17-Jan-16 05:18 AM, #57
Reply I am fine with this change., Polmier (Anonymous), 16-Jan-16 04:42 PM, #38
Reply This kinda sucks IMO, Jafel, 15-Jan-16 07:51 PM, #21
Reply You left because of edge point changes 10 years ago? n/..., Lhydia, 15-Jan-16 08:19 PM, #22
Reply You are a toolbox, Tac, 15-Jan-16 09:45 PM, #25
Reply RE: This kinda sucks IMO, Umiron, 16-Jan-16 01:50 PM, #33
     Reply All my characters merit more than they have., Murphy, 16-Jan-16 03:07 PM, #35
     Reply RE: This kinda sucks IMO, Jafel, 16-Jan-16 03:59 PM, #36
          Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 04:33 PM, #37
               Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Bemused, 16-Jan-16 05:51 PM, #40
                    Reply Let's try that with thief points, eh?, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 05:57 PM, #41
                    Reply RE: Let's try that with thief points, eh?, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 06:38 PM, #43
                         Reply I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 10:05 PM, #46
                              Reply RE: I wasn't exactly trying to troll, but, Umiron, 16-Jan-16 10:14 PM, #47
                              Reply I'm probably emotional right here., Murphy, 16-Jan-16 10:33 PM, #48
                                   Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 10:59 PM, #49
                                        Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Onewingedangel, 16-Jan-16 11:23 PM, #50
                                        Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:43 PM, #51
                                             Reply Honestly, did you expect this change to be universally ..., Tac, 16-Jan-16 11:48 PM, #52
                                             Reply RE: Honestly, did you expect this change to be universa..., Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:51 PM, #53
                                             Reply Holy crap stfu , Demos, 17-Jan-16 10:01 AM, #63
                                             Reply I'm sorry you feel that way., Murphy, 17-Jan-16 12:02 AM, #55
                                             Reply RE: I'm probably emotional right here., GrahamC, 17-Jan-16 01:52 PM, #65
                                        Reply Why bother reading player feedback??, Saagkri, 16-Jan-16 11:53 PM, #54
                                        Reply RE: Why bother reading player feedback??, Destuvius, 17-Jan-16 08:24 AM, #61
                                             Reply Few enough players as it is without them moving to staf..., incognito, 17-Jan-16 09:25 AM, #62
                                        Reply I'll be honest, Murphy, 17-Jan-16 05:59 AM, #58
                              Reply Guess that goes to show I've played too long., Jormyr, 17-Jan-16 02:38 AM, #56
                    Reply RE: Gaining Edge Points, Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 06:20 PM, #42
                         Reply Just chill, its a nice change., mharlndarn, 16-Jan-16 06:47 PM, #44
                              Reply Agreed. There was definitely some frustration to it., Jormyr, 16-Jan-16 07:07 PM, #45
                                   Reply The thing is getting advantage is sooo much fun :) NT, Kstatida, 21-Jan-16 10:40 AM, #68
Reply I do not like this change., Sarien, 15-Jan-16 04:15 PM, #15
Reply I am also critical of this change, Bemused, 15-Jan-16 05:30 PM, #19
Reply If you ONLY pk for EP, Destuvius, 15-Jan-16 07:38 PM, #20
     Reply RE: If you ONLY pk for EP, Sarien, 15-Jan-16 08:23 PM, #23
          Reply Both are rewarded, Destuvius, 15-Jan-16 09:25 PM, #24
               Reply I still do half my gearing via PK lol. That's an incen..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 01:06 AM, #29
Reply Please remove the explore/observe x by level 30 edgepoi..., ibuki, 15-Jan-16 03:43 PM, #12
Reply RE: Please remove the explore/observe x by level 30 edg..., Mcbeth, 15-Jan-16 04:52 PM, #18
Reply Regarding Edge Changes and This Whole Discussion, Homard, 15-Jan-16 03:06 PM, #10
Reply RE: Regarding Edge Changes and This Whole Discussion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 03:46 PM, #13
     Reply I think I may have been enjoying CF wrong. nt, Saagkri, 15-Jan-16 04:04 PM, #14
     Reply Oh man, I hope no one's overexerting themselves over CF..., Homard, 15-Jan-16 04:29 PM, #17
          Reply 1 thing..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 01:04 AM, #28
               Reply Oh yeah, I've been happy, too., Homard, 16-Jan-16 11:43 AM, #32
Reply RE: PK Milestones, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 10:26 AM, #2
Reply Some feedback/suggestion, Tac, 15-Jan-16 10:41 AM, #3
Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 10:47 AM, #4
     Reply Fair enough, Tac, 15-Jan-16 11:59 AM, #5
     Reply Frankly..., Umiron, 15-Jan-16 12:19 PM, #6
          Reply Holy ####ing ####. Glad someone finally said it from a..., TMNS, 16-Jan-16 12:58 AM, #27
          Reply Me too, lasentia, 16-Jan-16 06:40 AM, #30
               Reply RE: the rest are just perks, Murphy, 16-Jan-16 05:29 PM, #39
          Reply So thinking about it, incognito, 17-Jan-16 06:39 AM, #59
               Reply RE: So thinking about it, Bemused, 17-Jan-16 07:12 AM, #60
     Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Isildur, 15-Jan-16 01:44 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 01:59 PM #8
               Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Isildur, 15-Jan-16 02:34 PM, #9
                    Reply RE: Some feedback/suggestion, Umiron, 15-Jan-16 03:30 PM, #11
Reply Interesting, GrahamC, 15-Jan-16 04:26 PM, #16
Reply Your statement doesn't match reality. (nt), Umiron, 16-Jan-16 11:24 AM, #31
     Reply RE: Your statement doesn't match reality. (nt), GrahamC, 16-Jan-16 02:10 PM, #34
Reply I feel like you're my spirit animal. NT, TMNS, 16-Jan-16 12:47 AM, #26
Reply http://www.carrionfields.net/helpsearch.php?keywords=ed..., Tac, 15-Jan-16 10:21 AM, #1
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